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T O P I C R E V I E WHikaru29I'm trying to understand this couple's attraction and the potential of their relationship. They're attracted but they always seemed to run hot/cold at each other which has resulted in them breaking up twice (the 2nd time for 6 mths). The fact that they managed to patch back after 6 mths apart would suggest their strong attraction for each other but the woman's current behaviour seems to suggest that she's cooling off... losing interest... while he has become extremely insecure & clingy (in the past he kept pushing her away). She insisted she still loves him but at the same time, flirts around and claimed that she will not consider marrying him. What do you see in their charts? Guy is in red but pls note that his ToB is unknown so houses and angles are not accurate. Gal's ToB is accurate.What I see as strong attraction is his Moon in her 1H and Venus/Juno in her 7H, but both their Venuses and the guy's Moon don't have many aspects (considering Venus rules her Dsc). His Moon could conjunct her Asc and would be another strong attraction factor but that would also give him a natal Moon conjunct Uranus, which doesn't seem to fit his personality.Synastry Composite Bismarck2Images don't work. Hikaru29Strange... it shows on my screen.Can you see them now? Bismarck2Yah, i see it now. Can you post the synastry grid? It's easier to read. Also, you should include soulmate asteroids like persephone/proserpina, osiris/isis and love asteroids such as valentine, amor, and aphrodite. You don't need ceres, pallas, vesta, part of fortune, or eris. If you don't know the ToB, don't even bother with vertex either. It moves extremely fast around the zodiac.Oh, and under 'Display and calculation options' you should check the 'to all objects' box. Hikaru29Why is Ceres, Vesta not important? Will you be helping to read their chart, btw?Bismarck2 quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:Why is Ceres, Vesta not important? Will you be helping to read their chart, btw?Well, you want to know about attraction, right? Then why not include attraction/love asteroids? Ceres, Vesta, Pallas, eris, and PoF aren't needed for that. Truthfully speaking, I'm not seeing much attraction, besides sun/pluto opposition, so I'm trying to help you out. Hikaru29Ok here you go...thanks. I still include Vertex as her Vertex is accurate.She is Sag Sun, Gemini Moon. Bismarck2Thank you. It's much easier to see the aspects using the grid. They actually do have attractive aspects such as sun/venus and venus/pluto biquintiles. On top of that, you see other asteroid aspects such as a sun/eros trine. You also see north node aspects. Really good jupiter aspects as well. They also have several soulmate asteroid connections, albeit, some are loose. The closest ones are between pluto/persephone and pluto/proserpina. In the composite, Osiris and Isis are conjunct. In married couples, these two asteroids are usually in the same sign if not conjunct, from what I've heard. What's making them run hot and cold is probably the venus/uranus square. Also, the lack of conjunctions between the inner planets in the composite is probably not helping. Hikaru29Are the 2 biquintiles so strong that can cause huge attraction on its own? I've heard of Osiris/Isis being soulmate aspects but several marriage composite charts I checked don't have them conjunct nor in same sign. Anyway, I always thought asteroids are icing on the cake - they've not much effect if the mains are not there.What I noticed in their Composite is Venus/Mars/Amor conjunct. I thought that alone might cause huge attraction.Bismarck2 quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:Are the 2 biquintiles so strong that can cause huge attraction on its own? I've heard of Osiris/Isis being soulmate aspects but several marriage composite charts I checked don't have them conjunct nor in same sign. Anyway, I always thought asteroids are icing on the cake - they've not much effect if the mains are not there.What I noticed in their Composite is Venus/Mars/Amor conjunct. I thought that alone might cause huge attraction.There are probably other people who can answer these questions better than I can, such as IQ(who's a mod here), but I'll try. - Bi/quintiles are the best aspects, IMO. - Asteroids are icing, but I think so long as house synastry is being activated, any attraction aspects are good enough. You don't need sun/moon, mars/venus, etc. You just need house synastry, some sort attraction aspects, and compatibility/affinity aspects. That's my theory anyways. - That composite conjunction is definitely a good thing, but they need more inner planet activity. They have some sextiles, but that's a bit weak. I'm not sure if i'd count bi/quintiles above 1 degree. Hikaru29 quote:Originally posted by Bismarck2: There are probably other people who can answer these questions better than I can, such as IQ(who's a mod here), but I'll try. - Bi/quintiles are the best aspects, IMO. - Asteroids are icing, but I think so long as house synastry is being activated, any attraction aspects are good enough. You don't need sun/moon, mars/venus, etc. You just need house synastry, some sort attraction aspects, and compatibility/affinity aspects. That's my theory anyways. - That composite conjunction is definitely a good thing, but they need more inner planet activity. They have some sextiles, but that's a bit weak. I'm not sure if i'd count bi/quintiles above 1 degree. Not sure how her planets are falling in his chart because I don't have his ToB. Anyway, what would you make of their composite dynamic regarding the lack of inner planet activity?
The fact that they managed to patch back after 6 mths apart would suggest their strong attraction for each other but the woman's current behaviour seems to suggest that she's cooling off... losing interest... while he has become extremely insecure & clingy (in the past he kept pushing her away). She insisted she still loves him but at the same time, flirts around and claimed that she will not consider marrying him.
What do you see in their charts? Guy is in red but pls note that his ToB is unknown so houses and angles are not accurate. Gal's ToB is accurate.
What I see as strong attraction is his Moon in her 1H and Venus/Juno in her 7H, but both their Venuses and the guy's Moon don't have many aspects (considering Venus rules her Dsc). His Moon could conjunct her Asc and would be another strong attraction factor but that would also give him a natal Moon conjunct Uranus, which doesn't seem to fit his personality.
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Can you see them now?
Also, you should include soulmate asteroids like persephone/proserpina, osiris/isis and love asteroids such as valentine, amor, and aphrodite.
You don't need ceres, pallas, vesta, part of fortune, or eris. If you don't know the ToB, don't even bother with vertex either. It moves extremely fast around the zodiac.
Oh, and under 'Display and calculation options' you should check the 'to all objects' box.
quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:Why is Ceres, Vesta not important? Will you be helping to read their chart, btw?
Well, you want to know about attraction, right? Then why not include attraction/love asteroids? Ceres, Vesta, Pallas, eris, and PoF aren't needed for that.
Truthfully speaking, I'm not seeing much attraction, besides sun/pluto opposition, so I'm trying to help you out.
She is Sag Sun, Gemini Moon.
They actually do have attractive aspects such as sun/venus and venus/pluto biquintiles. On top of that, you see other asteroid aspects such as a sun/eros trine. You also see north node aspects. Really good jupiter aspects as well.
They also have several soulmate asteroid connections, albeit, some are loose. The closest ones are between pluto/persephone and pluto/proserpina. In the composite, Osiris and Isis are conjunct. In married couples, these two asteroids are usually in the same sign if not conjunct, from what I've heard.
What's making them run hot and cold is probably the venus/uranus square. Also, the lack of conjunctions between the inner planets in the composite is probably not helping.
What I noticed in their Composite is Venus/Mars/Amor conjunct. I thought that alone might cause huge attraction.
quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:Are the 2 biquintiles so strong that can cause huge attraction on its own? I've heard of Osiris/Isis being soulmate aspects but several marriage composite charts I checked don't have them conjunct nor in same sign. Anyway, I always thought asteroids are icing on the cake - they've not much effect if the mains are not there.What I noticed in their Composite is Venus/Mars/Amor conjunct. I thought that alone might cause huge attraction.
There are probably other people who can answer these questions better than I can, such as IQ(who's a mod here), but I'll try.
- Bi/quintiles are the best aspects, IMO.
- Asteroids are icing, but I think so long as house synastry is being activated, any attraction aspects are good enough. You don't need sun/moon, mars/venus, etc. You just need house synastry, some sort attraction aspects, and compatibility/affinity aspects. That's my theory anyways.
- That composite conjunction is definitely a good thing, but they need more inner planet activity. They have some sextiles, but that's a bit weak. I'm not sure if i'd count bi/quintiles above 1 degree.
quote:Originally posted by Bismarck2: There are probably other people who can answer these questions better than I can, such as IQ(who's a mod here), but I'll try. - Bi/quintiles are the best aspects, IMO. - Asteroids are icing, but I think so long as house synastry is being activated, any attraction aspects are good enough. You don't need sun/moon, mars/venus, etc. You just need house synastry, some sort attraction aspects, and compatibility/affinity aspects. That's my theory anyways. - That composite conjunction is definitely a good thing, but they need more inner planet activity. They have some sextiles, but that's a bit weak. I'm not sure if i'd count bi/quintiles above 1 degree.
Not sure how her planets are falling in his chart because I don't have his ToB. Anyway, what would you make of their composite dynamic regarding the lack of inner planet activity?
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