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T O P I C R E V I E WDons2angelssThis is the synastry and composite charts of me and my former best friend. We met about 5 years ago, she was the manager of my apartment complex. Our sons are the same age so they became friends too. Anyway, she started sleeping with all of my cousins and then my older brother, then started dating my younger brother (he's 12 years younger than her) they got engaged after a year, then we find out she's been seeing the father of my kids behind my brother's back and behind mine. It's like she's trying to steal my life. It's disgusting and I really don't know how to deal with her. She has a masters in psychology too so manipulation is her specialty. Seriously, how do I get rid of her? I'm in blue Composite LunaIscariotShe sounds extremely jealous of you and like she has some mental and emotional issues. Normal people don’t get jealous, they get envious but not jealous. Jealousy acts out of spite and scorn and hate, which sounds like what she’s doing. She’s toxic so avoid her at all costs. Let the people you don’t want involved with her how she is and what her true colours are, and if the people in your life really care about you and are worth being there, you don’t have to worry about her stealing anything. They should trust you and be loyal towards you if they’re really your friends or family. If a stranger can take them away from you, let them be taken lol.I feel her tob is probably off. This type of behaviour has Scorpio and Pluto written all over, even the psychology part you mentioned (that’s Scorpios specialty and interests). She’s probably a Scorpio rising, which would make more sense too with your Taurus planets in her 7th (rules our closest connections and you said you were best friends, also is the traits we want and admire in others so would also show why she’s so jealous). Dons2angelssHer TOB is accurate. Her sun is in the 8th house and her venus is right on my Midheaven. Would that cause this jealousy? She wants how I present myself to the world? And, scorpio rules her IC which would affect her capricorn moon. Hetshepsit quote:Originally posted by LunaIscariot:This type of behaviour has Scorpio and Pluto written all over, even the psychology part you mentioned (that’s Scorpios specialty and interests). She’s probably a Scorpio rising, which would make more sense too with your Taurus planets in her 7th (rules our closest connections and you said you were best friends, also is the traits we want and admire in others so would also show why she’s so jealous). I strongly disagree. Taurus/Gemini Rule my 7th -- it's always been the opposite for me. I have been the brunt of highly jealous and competitive Taurean/Gemini women (and female Bosses). Female friends and co-workers would pose as honest and authentic -- I was always blind to their deception and hidden envy (Pisces Venus). It still doesn't make sense to me. I'm talking open admissions: "I hate you because you're so damn perfect." "You're not all that - I've seen so many other girls prettier than you." (Virgo Moon in 10th)Like WTF???Dons2angelss: The composite says it all -- Mars, Pluto and Saturn Oppose the Sun in the 10th. That energy is primed for competition, extreme power-plays/dominance and yes, OBSESSION to control and destroy. The Sun is dignified in Aries - and in the 10th, it sits alone - it's "out of reach"Mars, Pluto and Saturn are desperate to reach such heights... also, being clustered in the 4th - she is literally FORCING herself into your life/family/roots/restricting and transforming your inner circle Where and which sign is your progressed Moon?You need to cleanse your life of this woman. She is out to get you. Cut her off, and remove yourself from anyone connected to her ASAP. This isn't healthy and you deserve peace (life it too damn short for prolonged drama and heartache)Dons2angelss quote:Originally posted by Hetshepsit: I strongly disagree. Taurus/Gemini Rule my 7th -- it's always been the opposite for me. I have been the brunt of highly jealous and competitive Taurean/Gemini women (and female Bosses). Female friends would pose as honest and authentic -- I was always blind to their deception (Pisces Venus). It still doesn't make sense to me. I'm talking open admission that they "I hate you because you're so damn perfect." (Virgo Moon in 10th)Like what???Dons2angelss: The composite says it all -- Mars, Pluto and Saturn Oppose the Sun in the 10th. That energy is primed for competition, extreme power-plays/dominance and yes, OBSESSION to control and destroy. The Sun is dignified in Aries - and in the 10th, it sits alone - it's "out of reach"Mars, Pluto and Saturn are desperate to reach such heights...Where and which sign is your progressed Moon?You need to cleanse your life of this woman. She is out to get you. Cut her off, and remove yourself from anyone connected to her ASAP. This isn't healthy and you deserve peace (life it too damn short for prolonged drama and heartache)I've definitely cut her out for good so no worries there. My progressed moon is at 13 aquarius, exactly on her venus. I have a feeling she's not going to stop though. She's with my kid's father and trying to poison him against me and obviously he's not going to believe a word I say because he thinks I'm the jealous one. She's not allowed around my children unsupervised. I feel like I've been very blind and naive (venus in the 12H) again. This has happened before just nowhere near to this degree. This bish is psycho. Dons2angelss quote:Originally posted by Hetshepsit: Dons2angelss: The composite says it all -- Mars, Pluto and Saturn Oppose the Sun in the 10th. That energy is primed for competition, extreme power-plays/dominance and yes, OBSESSION to control and destroy. The Sun is dignified in Aries - and in the 10th, it sits alone - it's "out of reach"Mars, Pluto and Saturn are desperate to reach such heights... also, being clustered in the 4th - she is literally FORCING herself into your life/family/roots/restricting and transforming your inner circle Since this is a composite chart and it represents the relationship itself, why is she the one acting out this way? There wasn't any competition from my end and I certainly didn't care enough to obsess over her in any way. What part of this composite shows how it would effect each of us?Hikaru29Gosh, she sounds like a friend from hell. 😰I'm really curious why your friend behaves this way so let's take a look at her Moon. In the 5th house shows her to be very focused on love & romance and this placement brings a string of love affairs. However, her Moon is afflicted by South Node which shows someone often stuck in a negative emotional pattern. The squares from Moon to Pluto/Saturn also show a person who has very complex emotional layers but alienates herself at the same time. On one hand she feels that no one truly understands her; on the other hand she closes herself off and refused to care about how her behaviour affects others.I think her destructive behaviour is her desperate attempt for attention. I've seen women like her who moves from man to man desperately trying to find the love she desires but none satisfies.To compound this, she has Neptune square Sun which makes her a chameleon. She easily believes in/idealises others and will behave in a way the other person wants her to (or she thinks that's what the other person wants). It's sad because she's seldom her true self.I believe she's jealous of you and all that you have, and she aspires to become YOU but of course she can't be so she tries to do that by conquering what you have (sleeping with your cousins... brothers... ex...). Pluto square Moon people love to study others but they often fail to understand themselves. manderinI don't generally like to see the conjunction of saturn and mars in a chart as these natives often tend towards selfishness and will often go out of their way to sabatage others for their own benefit or enjoyment. Western AND Vedic astrology both say this about this conjunction. This combo doesn't always play out this way of course as you have to look at other factors.Now BOTH of you have this conjunction in your charts, but as I said you have to look at other factors and what really got my attention is that she not only has this conjunction but she also has another conjunction that is very common among serial killers and otherwise manipulative people. Moon+Ketu The combination of having both MOON/KETU and saturn/mars in the same chart is something that would make me be wary about someone even without meeting them. People with moon/ketu often have a very difficult time becoming emotionally attached to others in a healthy way. Due to this they often don't have very long relationships with people and it's easier for them to hurt others without feeling guilt.Dons2angelss quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:Gosh, she sounds like a friend from hell. 😰I'm really curious why your friend behaves this way so let's take a look at her Moon. In the 5th house shows her to be very focused on love & romance and this placement brings a string of love affairs. However, her Moon is afflicted by South Node which shows someone often stuck in a negative emotional pattern. The squares from Moon to Pluto/Saturn also show a person who has very complex emotional layers but alienates herself at the same time. On one hand she feels that no one truly understands her; on the other hand she closes herself off and refused to care about how her behaviour affects others.I think her destructive behaviour is her desperate attempt for attention. I've seen women like her who moves from man to man desperately trying to find the love she desires but none satisfies.To compound this, she has Neptune square Sun which makes her a chameleon. She easily believes in/idealises others and will behave in a way the other person wants her to (or she thinks that's what the other person wants). It's sad because she's seldom her true self.I believe she's jealous of you and all that you have, and she aspires to become YOU but of course she can't be so she tries to do that by conquering what you have (sleeping with your cousins... brothers... ex...). Pluto square Moon people love to study others but they often fail to understand themselves. Dang you described her perfectly. Looking back I just feel stupid that I didn't see any of this. She's actually come on to me in the beginning but I absolutely **** that down and just tried to be her friend through all of her craziness. Dons2angelss quote:Originally posted by manderin:I don't generally like to see the conjunction of saturn and mars in a chart as these natives often tend towards selfishness and will often go out of their way to sabatage others for their own benefit or enjoyment. Western AND Vedic astrology both say this about this conjunction. This combo doesn't always play out this way of course as you have to look at other factors.Now BOTH of you have this conjunction in your charts, but as I said you have to look at other factors and what really got my attention is that she not only has this conjunction but she also has another conjunction that is very common among serial killers and otherwise manipulative people. Moon+Ketu The combination of having both MOON/KETU and saturn/mars in the same chart is something that would make me be wary about someone even without meeting them. People with moon/ketu often have a very difficult time becoming emotionally attached to others in a healthy way. Due to this they often don't have very long relationships with people and it's easier for them to hurt others without feeling guilt.Yes she does struggle hard with that. She jumps from ideal to ideal and sabotages them herself. I will definitely be on the lookout for both of those placements. I didn't know that about moon/south node. Thank you. RandallBump!Dons2angelss quote:Originally posted by Randall:Bump!Thanks for reminding me lol, I just found out she actually stabbed my brother 3 times (tried to kill him) and purposefully hurt herself to make it look like her hurt her. My brother is extremely private about his personal life so he never told anyone. She's even crazier than I first thought. Hikaru29 quote:Originally posted by Dons2angelss: Thanks for reminding me lol, I just found out she actually stabbed my brother 3 times (tried to kill him) and purposefully hurt herself to make it look like her hurt her. My brother is extremely private about his personal life so he never told anyone. She's even crazier than I first thought. Why didn't any of you report her to the police? Why is she still allowed to wreak havoc in your lives?? She managed to move from one guy to another because none of you compare notes!Dons2angelss quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29: Why didn't any of you report her to the police? Why is she still allowed to wreak havoc in your lives?? She managed to move from one guy to another because none of you compare notes!He was afraid the police wouldn't believe him and no one else knew about it. We definitely would have done something if we'd have known what was going on behind closed doors.
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I feel her tob is probably off. This type of behaviour has Scorpio and Pluto written all over, even the psychology part you mentioned (that’s Scorpios specialty and interests). She’s probably a Scorpio rising, which would make more sense too with your Taurus planets in her 7th (rules our closest connections and you said you were best friends, also is the traits we want and admire in others so would also show why she’s so jealous).
quote:Originally posted by LunaIscariot:This type of behaviour has Scorpio and Pluto written all over, even the psychology part you mentioned (that’s Scorpios specialty and interests). She’s probably a Scorpio rising, which would make more sense too with your Taurus planets in her 7th (rules our closest connections and you said you were best friends, also is the traits we want and admire in others so would also show why she’s so jealous).
I strongly disagree. Taurus/Gemini Rule my 7th -- it's always been the opposite for me. I have been the brunt of highly jealous and competitive Taurean/Gemini women (and female Bosses). Female friends and co-workers would pose as honest and authentic -- I was always blind to their deception and hidden envy (Pisces Venus). It still doesn't make sense to me. I'm talking open admissions: "I hate you because you're so damn perfect." "You're not all that - I've seen so many other girls prettier than you." (Virgo Moon in 10th)
Like WTF???
Dons2angelss: The composite says it all -- Mars, Pluto and Saturn Oppose the Sun in the 10th. That energy is primed for competition, extreme power-plays/dominance and yes, OBSESSION to control and destroy. The Sun is dignified in Aries - and in the 10th, it sits alone - it's "out of reach"
Mars, Pluto and Saturn are desperate to reach such heights... also, being clustered in the 4th - she is literally FORCING herself into your life/family/roots/restricting and transforming your inner circle
Where and which sign is your progressed Moon?
You need to cleanse your life of this woman. She is out to get you. Cut her off, and remove yourself from anyone connected to her ASAP. This isn't healthy and you deserve peace (life it too damn short for prolonged drama and heartache)
quote:Originally posted by Hetshepsit: I strongly disagree. Taurus/Gemini Rule my 7th -- it's always been the opposite for me. I have been the brunt of highly jealous and competitive Taurean/Gemini women (and female Bosses). Female friends would pose as honest and authentic -- I was always blind to their deception (Pisces Venus). It still doesn't make sense to me. I'm talking open admission that they "I hate you because you're so damn perfect." (Virgo Moon in 10th)Like what???Dons2angelss: The composite says it all -- Mars, Pluto and Saturn Oppose the Sun in the 10th. That energy is primed for competition, extreme power-plays/dominance and yes, OBSESSION to control and destroy. The Sun is dignified in Aries - and in the 10th, it sits alone - it's "out of reach"Mars, Pluto and Saturn are desperate to reach such heights...Where and which sign is your progressed Moon?You need to cleanse your life of this woman. She is out to get you. Cut her off, and remove yourself from anyone connected to her ASAP. This isn't healthy and you deserve peace (life it too damn short for prolonged drama and heartache)
Like what???
Mars, Pluto and Saturn are desperate to reach such heights...
I've definitely cut her out for good so no worries there. My progressed moon is at 13 aquarius, exactly on her venus. I have a feeling she's not going to stop though. She's with my kid's father and trying to poison him against me and obviously he's not going to believe a word I say because he thinks I'm the jealous one. She's not allowed around my children unsupervised. I feel like I've been very blind and naive (venus in the 12H) again. This has happened before just nowhere near to this degree. This bish is psycho.
quote:Originally posted by Hetshepsit: Dons2angelss: The composite says it all -- Mars, Pluto and Saturn Oppose the Sun in the 10th. That energy is primed for competition, extreme power-plays/dominance and yes, OBSESSION to control and destroy. The Sun is dignified in Aries - and in the 10th, it sits alone - it's "out of reach"Mars, Pluto and Saturn are desperate to reach such heights... also, being clustered in the 4th - she is literally FORCING herself into your life/family/roots/restricting and transforming your inner circle
Since this is a composite chart and it represents the relationship itself, why is she the one acting out this way? There wasn't any competition from my end and I certainly didn't care enough to obsess over her in any way. What part of this composite shows how it would effect each of us?
I'm really curious why your friend behaves this way so let's take a look at her Moon. In the 5th house shows her to be very focused on love & romance and this placement brings a string of love affairs. However, her Moon is afflicted by South Node which shows someone often stuck in a negative emotional pattern. The squares from Moon to Pluto/Saturn also show a person who has very complex emotional layers but alienates herself at the same time. On one hand she feels that no one truly understands her; on the other hand she closes herself off and refused to care about how her behaviour affects others.
I think her destructive behaviour is her desperate attempt for attention. I've seen women like her who moves from man to man desperately trying to find the love she desires but none satisfies.
To compound this, she has Neptune square Sun which makes her a chameleon. She easily believes in/idealises others and will behave in a way the other person wants her to (or she thinks that's what the other person wants). It's sad because she's seldom her true self.
I believe she's jealous of you and all that you have, and she aspires to become YOU but of course she can't be so she tries to do that by conquering what you have (sleeping with your cousins... brothers... ex...).
Pluto square Moon people love to study others but they often fail to understand themselves.
Now BOTH of you have this conjunction in your charts, but as I said you have to look at other factors and what really got my attention is that she not only has this conjunction but she also has another conjunction that is very common among serial killers and otherwise manipulative people. Moon+Ketu
The combination of having both MOON/KETU and saturn/mars in the same chart is something that would make me be wary about someone even without meeting them. People with moon/ketu often have a very difficult time becoming emotionally attached to others in a healthy way. Due to this they often don't have very long relationships with people and it's easier for them to hurt others without feeling guilt.
quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29:Gosh, she sounds like a friend from hell. 😰I'm really curious why your friend behaves this way so let's take a look at her Moon. In the 5th house shows her to be very focused on love & romance and this placement brings a string of love affairs. However, her Moon is afflicted by South Node which shows someone often stuck in a negative emotional pattern. The squares from Moon to Pluto/Saturn also show a person who has very complex emotional layers but alienates herself at the same time. On one hand she feels that no one truly understands her; on the other hand she closes herself off and refused to care about how her behaviour affects others.I think her destructive behaviour is her desperate attempt for attention. I've seen women like her who moves from man to man desperately trying to find the love she desires but none satisfies.To compound this, she has Neptune square Sun which makes her a chameleon. She easily believes in/idealises others and will behave in a way the other person wants her to (or she thinks that's what the other person wants). It's sad because she's seldom her true self.I believe she's jealous of you and all that you have, and she aspires to become YOU but of course she can't be so she tries to do that by conquering what you have (sleeping with your cousins... brothers... ex...). Pluto square Moon people love to study others but they often fail to understand themselves.
Dang you described her perfectly. Looking back I just feel stupid that I didn't see any of this. She's actually come on to me in the beginning but I absolutely **** that down and just tried to be her friend through all of her craziness.
quote:Originally posted by manderin:I don't generally like to see the conjunction of saturn and mars in a chart as these natives often tend towards selfishness and will often go out of their way to sabatage others for their own benefit or enjoyment. Western AND Vedic astrology both say this about this conjunction. This combo doesn't always play out this way of course as you have to look at other factors.Now BOTH of you have this conjunction in your charts, but as I said you have to look at other factors and what really got my attention is that she not only has this conjunction but she also has another conjunction that is very common among serial killers and otherwise manipulative people. Moon+Ketu The combination of having both MOON/KETU and saturn/mars in the same chart is something that would make me be wary about someone even without meeting them. People with moon/ketu often have a very difficult time becoming emotionally attached to others in a healthy way. Due to this they often don't have very long relationships with people and it's easier for them to hurt others without feeling guilt.
Yes she does struggle hard with that. She jumps from ideal to ideal and sabotages them herself. I will definitely be on the lookout for both of those placements. I didn't know that about moon/south node. Thank you.
quote:Originally posted by Randall:Bump!
Thanks for reminding me lol, I just found out she actually stabbed my brother 3 times (tried to kill him) and purposefully hurt herself to make it look like her hurt her. My brother is extremely private about his personal life so he never told anyone. She's even crazier than I first thought.
quote:Originally posted by Dons2angelss: Thanks for reminding me lol, I just found out she actually stabbed my brother 3 times (tried to kill him) and purposefully hurt herself to make it look like her hurt her. My brother is extremely private about his personal life so he never told anyone. She's even crazier than I first thought.
Why didn't any of you report her to the police? Why is she still allowed to wreak havoc in your lives?? She managed to move from one guy to another because none of you compare notes!
quote:Originally posted by Hikaru29: Why didn't any of you report her to the police? Why is she still allowed to wreak havoc in your lives?? She managed to move from one guy to another because none of you compare notes!
He was afraid the police wouldn't believe him and no one else knew about it. We definitely would have done something if we'd have known what was going on behind closed doors.
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