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jonahc | Does anyone else have Astral Travels. I have them most nights, some times I travel to heaven and meet my loved one's, and sometimes I have what's usually called time travels. So far I've seen myself as a soldier in the English civil war, a bootlegger in I think 1920's or 1930's America. And most recently in nazi germany in I think the late 1930's, where i watched them goose stepping down the road. Let me know what yous think, and please share your experiences with me. |
fairy22 | I have been trying to have astral travels but I can't. How can I do it very soon. What do I have to do at night or tonight |
MAKLHOUF | Hello jonah, haven't seen you here for a while ------------------ To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan |
emitres | hello again jonahc...was wondering if you were still around... astral travel-interesting topic... i am convinced that what most call dreams are moments of astral travel... Linda Goodman's Star Signs she describes how to differentiate between astral travel and dreams... so it's most likely, fairy22, that you're already doing it... some practice meditative techniques which allow them to astral travel while still in a "conscious" state... i personally have not done this but i'm sure a little research within these forums will give you a lot of info.. as to past life recollections...yes, i've had a fair number of them... a rather violent one that seems to date back to ancient Mesopotamia...now, having said, that this topic really should be moved to Universal Codes...however, if jonahc doesn't feel comfortable with that i'll leave it here unless Randall says otherwise... ------------------ " Some define good as that which preserves, and evil as that which destroys; but destruction can be cleansing and purifying, for there is such a thing in both men and races as spiritual constipation, which comes from too much preservation of the status quo." ( Dion Fortune ) |
Randall | I just bumped a string about this for you in Brown Owl School. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark |
fairy22 | Hi emitres so cool about your past lives, can you tell us what happened in that lifetime - the violent one |
jonahc | Hi Fairy 22, All I can suggest regarding Astral traveling is keep regenerating your cells in the morning and at night, and keep drinking the grape juice and hopefully it will happen naturely. It really is a wonderful experience, it's great meeting loved one's who have passed away to a new dimension, and the time travels are great as well. in my time travel to nazi germany I had a conversation with a person in the crowd, I just happened to mention that I don't know why they are martching down the street looking all important and intimidating as they are going to get beat anyway, and the person I spoke to asked how I knew this, I just replied I just know then smiled and walked away. I was also some sort of ruler in an ancient civilisation as well, I seen myself sat apon a structure made of wood and they were all paying homage to me. i used to be quite bossy, and would turn my nose up at menial tasks. Maybe I got these traits from that past life. |
emitres | i find it a little challenging to put these fragments into words so bear with me please... oddly enough it was a longtime LL member who triggered that particular memory...the dream itself was a dream within a dream... basically i was a part of a religious sect that worshipped the god Marduk - had to look that name up as had never come across it until that dream...there was a group of us, it was night-time and we had found - perhaps a better term would be cornered - a youngish man who did not worship as we did... i could clearly see his face and knew he was scared by what was going to happen...i stepped forward, called him a traitor(betrayer?)to Marduk and shoved my sword (knife?) thru his gut...it was a very short but vivid dream...what i found particularly disturbing was the lack of emotion i felt when i took his life - really quite gross... ------------------ " Some define good as that which preserves, and evil as that which destroys; but destruction can be cleansing and purifying, for there is such a thing in both men and races as spiritual constipation, which comes from too much preservation of the status quo." ( Dion Fortune ) |
fairy22 | Johahc That is so cool. Do you have control when you travel in time? Is there a center point you can go and decide which time period you want to go (hope this is clear). Tell me a little bit more - fascinatingEmitres Thank you for sharing your story, I was hoping you would! What do you think is the main factor for both of you to be able to do this?
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jonahc | Hi Fairy 22, I don't have much control as to where I time travel to, I treat them as mystery tours, i don't know where i'll end up. Even the astral trips to heaven are a mystery tour as well. Sometimes when I've not seen one of my family members for a while I usually end up meeting them again, must be the power of magnetic attration. Hope this helps you. |
jonahc | hi Mak, how are things with you, hope you are keeping well. What's your thought on some of the things I've been writing about. |
MAKLHOUF | Things are challenging for me, as they are for many at the moment. I love to hear about astral travels, but I would not accept that a dream is the same thing, emitres. ------------------ To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan |
Randall | A lot of astral trips occur during the dream state. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark |
fairy22 | fun topic |
emitres | maklhouf - perhaps you did not read my response thoroughly... i didn't actually say all dreams are astral travel - i said that what many interpret as a dream is in fact a form of astral travel... are you referring to OBE's? ------------------ " Some define good as that which preserves, and evil as that which destroys; but destruction can be cleansing and purifying, for there is such a thing in both men and races as spiritual constipation, which comes from too much preservation of the status quo." ( Dion Fortune ) |
MAKLHOUF | It's possible, but I think unlikely that a person would mistake astral travel for a dream, even if the experience began as a dream, and, yes, out of body experience does encompass the phenomenon of astral travel although astral travel is not always involved. ------------------ To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan |
Randall | Deja vu is astral traveling forward a few days in time while dreaming. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark |
MAKLHOUF | quote: Originally posted by emitres: maklhouf - perhaps you did not read my response thoroughly... i didn't actually say all dreams are astral travel - i said that what many interpret as a dream is in fact a form of astral travel... are you referring to OBE's?
You may be thinking of NDEs, near death experiences, which are another form of OBE ------------------ To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan |
MAKLHOUF | quote: Originally posted by Randall: Deja vu is astral traveling forward a few days in time while dreaming.
Deja vu can occur at any time, including while awake.------------------ To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan |
jonahc | Hi Emitres, Thanks for sharing your experience, it's very interesting. Are you very religious in this present life, or have you no time for it. |
emitres | quote: Originally posted by MAKLHOUF: It's possible, but I think unlikely that a person would mistake astral travel for a dream, even if the experience began as a dream,
i have to respectfully disagree with this point... i think it highly likely that most people who are unfamiliar with astral travel would indeed mistake it for dreaming - how often have we heard someone state that they've had the strangest dream, more intense than any other etc etc...? i definitely wasn't thinking of NDE's - i'm not entirely sure what to make of them never having personally experienced one... i think what Randall meant by his Deja vu post was that the event happens while you're in the dream state but the recall/recognition is while you're awake, if that makes sense... hello again jonahc - no, i am definitely not religious - not in any traditional sense of the word...i, like many others, consider myself to be spiritual and have no problems incorporating varying "religious" viewpoints into my own belief structure... ------------------ " Some define good as that which preserves, and evil as that which destroys; but destruction can be cleansing and purifying, for there is such a thing in both men and races as spiritual constipation, which comes from too much preservation of the status quo." ( Dion Fortune ) |
Randall | We travel a day or up to a few days in the future astrally while we dream, and it's pretty much just random, so when you get to that place and catch up to that point in time, you recall being there before; other than that, there's usually no significance, hence the randomness. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark |
Randall | That's what Linda said anyway. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark |
MAKLHOUF | Rather than argue about the manifestation of astral travel, I would say that I personally have no use for the phenomenon, unless it is something I can do intentionally and consciously. ------------------ To live outside the law you must be honest. Bob Dylan |
Randall | I think that's the whole point. It happens to all of us while sleeping, but the idea is to will it. ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark |