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T O P I C R E V I E Wsandtime is spot on this time. chart of a female.. neptune singleton. neptune conjunct mc. sun conj saturn exact.SaggiMCsun conj saturn is not just combust in Traditional astrology they call it Cazami quote:Originally Posted by Olivia on astrologyweekly.com If it's within 17 minutes of the Sun, it's cazimi.Basically what happens in cazimi is the planet is considered to be 'sitting in the lap of the king' and is given great power.If it's further than that, and up to 8-1/2 degrees away, it's combust, even if it's in a different sign. From 8-1/2 to 15 degrees away it's under the beams, which means it's slightly weakened, but not as much as combustion would weaken it.In combustion, the planet's power is transferred to the Sun, so will always act in service to the Sun - which is likely to come with one great gift. Merc/Sun combust is often the sign of a very good writer, for example, but one can get awfully caught up in one's own opinions to the point of not listening to others, Venus combust in Taurus is often the guy who can bed just about any woman but can't establish a permanent relationship, Venus combust in Libra is often a gorgeous woman trapped in a miserable marriage, and so forth.Jupiter could give wealth, make you a good barrister or a judge, possibly fame, but you might be awfully pompous. Combust planets for women (any planet) seem to be bad for marriage as a rule, though it doesn't seem to hold true quite so much for men, though it depends on the planet, and I'd definitely still look at it.A good tutorial on cazimi versus combustion is the Book or Scroll of Ester (which may or may not be in your bible depending on what version you've got). Consider Ester to be cazimi, and a whole lot of other folks in the story combust (even Haman goes combust eventually!). Read in that light you might get a whole new appreciation of biblical literature as well.“For technical purposes, in Western astrology, most ancient and medieval authorities considered a planet combust or burnt when its position was within 5-8 degrees on either side of the Sun. However, a planet will continue to be weakened by the Sun until it has elongated by 15-17 degrees from it. (Lilly says 17 degrees on p. 113 of Christian Astrology.) This positioning is said to be under the beams of the Sun, and although it may be stronger than being combust, it will still cause a noticeable weakening in a planet's effectiveness.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combust_(astrological_aspect) “Venus combust may take away the strength to achieve, but when in a particularly close conjunction with the Sun it produces the condition sometimes termed nymphomania. Mars combust is always the man who fights for what he wants; and so with each planet according to its intrinsic nature.Wilson says "there seems manifest a difference in genius and propensities of natives, according to the distance of their Mercury from the Sun; and that those whose Mercury is combust have little wit or solid judgment, though they will persevere in business and frequently with good success.” http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/combust.php Cazimi/combust“So for a modern astrologer, Mars either cazimi or combust the sun is strengthened because Mars is considered fiery and hot, and thus benefits from meeting the fiery heat of the sun. But cold and dry Saturn would weaken when either combust or cazimi, because the nature of the sun is damaging to Saturn. Modern astrologers usually make no distinction between a planet being combust the sun or cazimi.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combust_(astrological_aspect) neptune conj MC, shows confusions, illlusions around career..planets conj MC http://rugdeeaustralia.tripod.com/id18.html http://www.skyviewzone.com/articles/asrticle3sc.htm Now I have neptune singleton, but it's not conjunct MC...now my neptune (0' critical degree) is 9th conj 10th cusp (not MC) in Equal house system. I feel (singletons) suggests this planet has 'more importance' and acts bit like the handle on a bucket chart or funnel for other energies. I have Neptune in Scorpio conj 10th house cusp opp sun/moon and as we know scorpio always wants deep and meaningful and is great for research, digging and delving into 'spiritual matters' (in my case) and working with spirit but always wanting more, or wanting things quicker(communications,symbols,messages), but never getting it, which has been a major frustration disillusionment -- typical Neptune rose tinted glasses. We all think we can do better and push for better, but when the control (scorpio) is not in our hands ie: others then my theory/idea is 'serve or suffer' give in without reservation and accept you cannot limit, change or expect how others (spirit) want to or will work with me. Hope this makes sense So think of the sign Scorpio - how this modifies Neptune, where is house (mine was 9th house of religion higher learning) and aspects is how neptune functions as in my case opposition to sun and moon, trine mars and generational square to Uranus. My Neptune opp sun/moon are also parts of *cradle* configuration"When Neptune is a singleton (or angular, highly aspected, or at a critical degree, 29 or 0), there is a likelihood that the person will have an extraordinary degree of sensitivity. They may be so highly intuitive that they believe they have “psychic powers.” The sensitivity operates on all levels. In the physical, it can correlate with such maladies as “environmental sensitivity,” allergies of all kinds as well as a variety of autoimmune diseases. Narcolepsy (a sleep disorder), and vision problems are Neptunian afflictions. On the mental/emotional level, a person may be sensitive to “higher realms,” and experience mystical inspiration or insane delusions." http://www.astrologyclub.org/ I would add this neptune singleton has/is a major background but nonetheless important matter for ME. It's not a driving force per se like my chart ruler uranus. As uranus 7th Angular is conj Sun/moon (therefore square both luminaries) but also pof 1st and chiron both Aquarius first house..... now this I strongly identify with....Hemispheres and quadrants http://wilsontc.stormloader.com/Step_2_Self_and_other_focus.htm#continue http://www.astrotheme.com/planets-distribution.php http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/hemispheres_quadrants1.shtml http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/hemisphereemphasis.html The Western Hemisphere (right hand side)It is the world of other people and of relationships. The native needs fellow creatures in order to reach harmony. He pays much attention, sometimes too much, to other people's views. A prominent Western hemisphere inclines towards extraversion and sociability.------------------I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”sandsoo saturn is cazimi her sun?is that a good thing? if saturn is stronger? the last part sez not good for marriage in a woman..is venus combust/cazimi the sun? it is 17 degrees away..neptune conj mc- she does have some crazy ideas for businesses or how to make money. how nice you must be an aqua rising then hehe! yes on the sociability..sand SaggiMCmars in libra in 7th suggests much activity in one to one relationships, possible altercations, arguments..Sun conj saturn will overshadow sun's expressions to be more like Cappi/saturnmercury retro is a very analytical but in detriment in saggi, then conj Uranus, makes for a very quick mind and speech, but can add argumentativeness...Ruler of the Seventh House in the Eighth House "Other people will support your goals either financially or by lending moral support. You can counsel other people regarding their finances. Your attitude towards marriage may undergo a change and a partner can represent a total change of lifestyle for you. You may marry based on an overwhelming sexual attraction to someone. You could actually form a deep intimate bond with someone who feels like a soulmate. You may have to resist the tendency to become obsessed with a particular relationship and allow yourself to move on when the time comes." http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr7 Many astrologers (in my opinion) overlook the important of quincunxs, but I spent a lot of time on the last merc retro, doing some research...Moon Quincunx Venus“The frustration you experience in life often comes because you get what you ask for from other people (and life in general). Unfortunately, what you ask for isn't what you want. Partly, you are slowly learning better communication skills, and partly you are learning to understand your own deeper cravings as they are. You see the unacknowledged and undigested parts of your sensitivity and creativity present in others, but, these are really projections that you have to own within your self if you are to change for the better.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html “shows that you have a low opinion of your personal needs and give a greater priority to persons whom you feel obligated to. The only problem here is that this process goes on and on. Your reaction to people is unbalanced and illogical. If you can detach yourself from emotional considerations, you will be able to logically decide how far your obligations go and to what extent you should expect others to make concessions to you. You need to develop greater self respect in order to earn the respect of the people you deal with”From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-ZondagSometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings. Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesisWhat tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...------------------I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”anongrl10 quote:Originally posted by sand: I love this emoticon! sand^itsh my new way of saying bump LOLOL!sand quote:Originally posted by SaggiMC:mars in libra in 7th suggests much activity in one to one relationships, possible altercations, arguments..Sun conj saturn will overshadow sun's expressions to be more like Cappi/saturnmercury retro is a very analytical but in detriment in saggi, then conj Uranus, makes for a very quick mind and speech, but can add argumentativeness...Ruler of the Seventh House in the Eighth House "Other people will support your goals either financially or by lending moral support. You can counsel other people regarding their finances. Your attitude towards marriage may undergo a change and a partner can represent a total change of lifestyle for you. You may marry based on an overwhelming sexual attraction to someone. You could actually form a deep intimate bond with someone who feels like a soulmate. You may have to resist the tendency to become obsessed with a particular relationship and allow yourself to move on when the time comes." http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr7 Many astrologers (in my opinion) overlook the important of quincunxs, but I spent a lot of time on the last merc retro, doing some research...Moon Quincunx Venus“The frustration you experience in life often comes because you get what you ask for from other people (and life in general). Unfortunately, what you ask for isn't what you want. Partly, you are slowly learning better communication skills, and partly you are learning to understand your own deeper cravings as they are. You see the unacknowledged and undigested parts of your sensitivity and creativity present in others, but, these are really projections that you have to own within your self if you are to change for the better.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html “shows that you have a low opinion of your personal needs and give a greater priority to persons whom you feel obligated to. The only problem here is that this process goes on and on. Your reaction to people is unbalanced and illogical. If you can detach yourself from emotional considerations, you will be able to logically decide how far your obligations go and to what extent you should expect others to make concessions to you. You need to develop greater self respect in order to earn the respect of the people you deal with”From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-ZondagSometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings. Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesisWhat tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...thanks saggie mc!yes on the altercations lol!i don't feel much cap in her but more a restriction on the sag sun. ah well might be same thing. merc in sag is in detriment? wasn't familiar with that but i do see it is..the financial/ moral support seems spot on..the quincunx is hard to feel.. even if i had that quincunx it would be too murky for me to feel out..
neptune singleton.
neptune conjunct mc.
sun conj saturn exact.
quote:Originally Posted by Olivia on astrologyweekly.com If it's within 17 minutes of the Sun, it's cazimi.Basically what happens in cazimi is the planet is considered to be 'sitting in the lap of the king' and is given great power.If it's further than that, and up to 8-1/2 degrees away, it's combust, even if it's in a different sign. From 8-1/2 to 15 degrees away it's under the beams, which means it's slightly weakened, but not as much as combustion would weaken it.In combustion, the planet's power is transferred to the Sun, so will always act in service to the Sun - which is likely to come with one great gift. Merc/Sun combust is often the sign of a very good writer, for example, but one can get awfully caught up in one's own opinions to the point of not listening to others, Venus combust in Taurus is often the guy who can bed just about any woman but can't establish a permanent relationship, Venus combust in Libra is often a gorgeous woman trapped in a miserable marriage, and so forth.Jupiter could give wealth, make you a good barrister or a judge, possibly fame, but you might be awfully pompous. Combust planets for women (any planet) seem to be bad for marriage as a rule, though it doesn't seem to hold true quite so much for men, though it depends on the planet, and I'd definitely still look at it.A good tutorial on cazimi versus combustion is the Book or Scroll of Ester (which may or may not be in your bible depending on what version you've got). Consider Ester to be cazimi, and a whole lot of other folks in the story combust (even Haman goes combust eventually!). Read in that light you might get a whole new appreciation of biblical literature as well.
If it's further than that, and up to 8-1/2 degrees away, it's combust, even if it's in a different sign.
From 8-1/2 to 15 degrees away it's under the beams, which means it's slightly weakened, but not as much as combustion would weaken it.
In combustion, the planet's power is transferred to the Sun, so will always act in service to the Sun - which is likely to come with one great gift. Merc/Sun combust is often the sign of a very good writer, for example, but one can get awfully caught up in one's own opinions to the point of not listening to others, Venus combust in Taurus is often the guy who can bed just about any woman but can't establish a permanent relationship, Venus combust in Libra is often a gorgeous woman trapped in a miserable marriage, and so forth.Jupiter could give wealth, make you a good barrister or a judge, possibly fame, but you might be awfully pompous. Combust planets for women (any planet) seem to be bad for marriage as a rule, though it doesn't seem to hold true quite so much for men, though it depends on the planet, and I'd definitely still look at it.A good tutorial on cazimi versus combustion is the Book or Scroll of Ester (which may or may not be in your bible depending on what version you've got). Consider Ester to be cazimi, and a whole lot of other folks in the story combust (even Haman goes combust eventually!). Read in that light you might get a whole new appreciation of biblical literature as well.
“For technical purposes, in Western astrology, most ancient and medieval authorities considered a planet combust or burnt when its position was within 5-8 degrees on either side of the Sun. However, a planet will continue to be weakened by the Sun until it has elongated by 15-17 degrees from it. (Lilly says 17 degrees on p. 113 of Christian Astrology.) This positioning is said to be under the beams of the Sun, and although it may be stronger than being combust, it will still cause a noticeable weakening in a planet's effectiveness.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combust_(astrological_aspect)
“Venus combust may take away the strength to achieve, but when in a particularly close conjunction with the Sun it produces the condition sometimes termed nymphomania. Mars combust is always the man who fights for what he wants; and so with each planet according to its intrinsic nature.Wilson says "there seems manifest a difference in genius and propensities of natives, according to the distance of their Mercury from the Sun; and that those whose Mercury is combust have little wit or solid judgment, though they will persevere in business and frequently with good success.” http://www.astrologyweekly.com/dictionary/combust.php
Cazimi/combust“So for a modern astrologer, Mars either cazimi or combust the sun is strengthened because Mars is considered fiery and hot, and thus benefits from meeting the fiery heat of the sun. But cold and dry Saturn would weaken when either combust or cazimi, because the nature of the sun is damaging to Saturn. Modern astrologers usually make no distinction between a planet being combust the sun or cazimi.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combust_(astrological_aspect)
neptune conj MC, shows confusions, illlusions around career..planets conj MC http://rugdeeaustralia.tripod.com/id18.html http://www.skyviewzone.com/articles/asrticle3sc.htm
Now I have neptune singleton, but it's not conjunct MC...
now my neptune (0' critical degree) is 9th conj 10th cusp (not MC) in Equal house system. I feel (singletons) suggests this planet has 'more importance' and acts bit like the handle on a bucket chart or funnel for other energies. I have Neptune in Scorpio conj 10th house cusp opp sun/moon and as we know scorpio always wants deep and meaningful and is great for research, digging and delving into 'spiritual matters' (in my case) and working with spirit but always wanting more, or wanting things quicker(communications,symbols,messages), but never getting it, which has been a major frustration disillusionment -- typical Neptune rose tinted glasses.
We all think we can do better and push for better, but when the control (scorpio) is not in our hands ie: others then my theory/idea is 'serve or suffer' give in without reservation and accept you cannot limit, change or expect how others (spirit) want to or will work with me. Hope this makes sense
So think of the sign Scorpio - how this modifies Neptune, where is house (mine was 9th house of religion higher learning) and aspects is how neptune functions as in my case opposition to sun and moon, trine mars and generational square to Uranus. My Neptune opp sun/moon are also parts of *cradle* configuration
"When Neptune is a singleton (or angular, highly aspected, or at a critical degree, 29 or 0), there is a likelihood that the person will have an extraordinary degree of sensitivity. They may be so highly intuitive that they believe they have “psychic powers.” The sensitivity operates on all levels. In the physical, it can correlate with such maladies as “environmental sensitivity,” allergies of all kinds as well as a variety of autoimmune diseases. Narcolepsy (a sleep disorder), and vision problems are Neptunian afflictions. On the mental/emotional level, a person may be sensitive to “higher realms,” and experience mystical inspiration or insane delusions." http://www.astrologyclub.org/
I would add this neptune singleton has/is a major background but nonetheless important matter for ME. It's not a driving force per se like my chart ruler uranus. As uranus 7th Angular is conj Sun/moon (therefore square both luminaries) but also pof 1st and chiron both Aquarius first house..... now this I strongly identify with....
Hemispheres and quadrants http://wilsontc.stormloader.com/Step_2_Self_and_other_focus.htm#continue http://www.astrotheme.com/planets-distribution.php http://www.lunarliving.org/astrology/hemispheres_quadrants1.shtml http://www.cafeastrology.com/articles/hemisphereemphasis.html
The Western Hemisphere (right hand side)It is the world of other people and of relationships. The native needs fellow creatures in order to reach harmony. He pays much attention, sometimes too much, to other people's views. A prominent Western hemisphere inclines towards extraversion and sociability.
------------------I love the parable, “If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, BUT if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for life.”
is that a good thing? if saturn is stronger? the last part sez not good for marriage in a woman..
is venus combust/cazimi the sun? it is 17 degrees away..
neptune conj mc- she does have some crazy ideas for businesses or how to make money.
how nice you must be an aqua rising then hehe!
yes on the sociability..
Sun conj saturn will overshadow sun's expressions to be more like Cappi/saturn
mercury retro is a very analytical but in detriment in saggi, then conj Uranus, makes for a very quick mind and speech, but can add argumentativeness...
Ruler of the Seventh House in the Eighth House
"Other people will support your goals either financially or by lending moral support. You can counsel other people regarding their finances. Your attitude towards marriage may undergo a change and a partner can represent a total change of lifestyle for you. You may marry based on an overwhelming sexual attraction to someone. You could actually form a deep intimate bond with someone who feels like a soulmate. You may have to resist the tendency to become obsessed with a particular relationship and allow yourself to move on when the time comes." http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr7
Many astrologers (in my opinion) overlook the important of quincunxs, but I spent a lot of time on the last merc retro, doing some research...
Moon Quincunx Venus“The frustration you experience in life often comes because you get what you ask for from other people (and life in general). Unfortunately, what you ask for isn't what you want. Partly, you are slowly learning better communication skills, and partly you are learning to understand your own deeper cravings as they are. You see the unacknowledged and undigested parts of your sensitivity and creativity present in others, but, these are really projections that you have to own within your self if you are to change for the better.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html
“shows that you have a low opinion of your personal needs and give a greater priority to persons whom you feel obligated to. The only problem here is that this process goes on and on. Your reaction to people is unbalanced and illogical. If you can detach yourself from emotional considerations, you will be able to logically decide how far your obligations go and to what extent you should expect others to make concessions to you. You need to develop greater self respect in order to earn the respect of the people you deal with”From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-Zondag
Sometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings.
Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesisWhat tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...
quote:Originally posted by sand:
I love this emoticon!
quote:Originally posted by SaggiMC:mars in libra in 7th suggests much activity in one to one relationships, possible altercations, arguments..Sun conj saturn will overshadow sun's expressions to be more like Cappi/saturnmercury retro is a very analytical but in detriment in saggi, then conj Uranus, makes for a very quick mind and speech, but can add argumentativeness...Ruler of the Seventh House in the Eighth House "Other people will support your goals either financially or by lending moral support. You can counsel other people regarding their finances. Your attitude towards marriage may undergo a change and a partner can represent a total change of lifestyle for you. You may marry based on an overwhelming sexual attraction to someone. You could actually form a deep intimate bond with someone who feels like a soulmate. You may have to resist the tendency to become obsessed with a particular relationship and allow yourself to move on when the time comes." http://www.skyviewzone.com/astrology/houserulerships.htm#hr7 Many astrologers (in my opinion) overlook the important of quincunxs, but I spent a lot of time on the last merc retro, doing some research...Moon Quincunx Venus“The frustration you experience in life often comes because you get what you ask for from other people (and life in general). Unfortunately, what you ask for isn't what you want. Partly, you are slowly learning better communication skills, and partly you are learning to understand your own deeper cravings as they are. You see the unacknowledged and undigested parts of your sensitivity and creativity present in others, but, these are really projections that you have to own within your self if you are to change for the better.” http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/quincunxinterpretations.html “shows that you have a low opinion of your personal needs and give a greater priority to persons whom you feel obligated to. The only problem here is that this process goes on and on. Your reaction to people is unbalanced and illogical. If you can detach yourself from emotional considerations, you will be able to logically decide how far your obligations go and to what extent you should expect others to make concessions to you. You need to develop greater self respect in order to earn the respect of the people you deal with”From the book ‘Aspects and Personality’ by Karen Hamaker-ZondagSometimes these quincunxs (aka Inconjuncts 150’) are obvious and recognised in personality, other times it can take a lot of self examination to identify with the planets energies and of course they (like all aspects) don't operate 100% of the time, they are simply a facet of your personality. Some say they cause health issues that are unresolved, underlying, dormant waiting to be triggered.... some say you stay at one end, to the detriment of the other, OR end up see-sawing between the two until you learn balance, integration of two unlikely pairings. Next look at the signs, then houses and then aspects. Now the *others aspects* from these quincunxs/Yods as they can act like escape routes, that can help or hinder the expressions. A chart with lots of Yods (Finger of God) will always be *searching* for the divine answers to the meaning of life, to find synthesisWhat tends to happen with quincunxs is that with progessions and transits will create temporary Yods aka 'Finger of god' configurations. Like with common TSquares, they create a temp Grand Square...
thanks saggie mc!
yes on the altercations lol!
i don't feel much cap in her but more a restriction on the sag sun. ah well might be same thing.
merc in sag is in detriment? wasn't familiar with that but i do see it is..
the financial/ moral support seems spot on..
the quincunx is hard to feel.. even if i had that quincunx it would be too murky for me to feel out..
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