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T O P I C R E V I E WTwirlDid I hear you saying you like to practice more Lennies? Would you like to exchange? I can do an oracle plus tarot card or... you name it CeridwenYes, just leave your question here.I will do Vesta`s reading and then yours.Jsut for now I will need some time to mentally detach. My reading`s might be too Mr-Sag-charged at the moment. TwirlCool. And lol, you can ask a completely non-sag orientated question though. Or I can give you an oracle message? Would you like to do a general 1-week prediction or on a guy? Then: Why does he keep sending me this dubious messages. Does he truly think that's a turn-on? CeridwenVesta,I did a general reading for you, using 3x3 spread.The key-card and focus is TOWERIt makes me think of legal issues being in the centre. I don´t know the Tower always makes me think of authorities, government and legal things in these readings, only rarely do I think about tall buildings. But it depends on the question I suppose. Anyway this seems to be on the plate for now; Trigger card is the Book, so there are secret s, secret dealings at work here. Of course it could also have to do with universities or college. Anyway, the corner cards are:Book/Birds; conversations either about knowledge or about something previously secretSnake/HouseUoh, there seems to be fraud/ treachery in your home. Well that is what you wrote, too, right?underlying factors:house - man - birdit seems that there is an influence by a man (your husband?) on the home, which influences your present life. Has there been talk about your living conditions? the past:Book - fish - houseunknown financial issues at home?Are yuo a wealthy family or does the money play a role in maintaing the status quo in your family? Maybe even financial dependency?Your thoughts/ hopes/ fears:Book - woman - snakeHmm, still makes me think of something deceptive, going on, but it is not easy to wade through the lies. Maybe it even involves another woman, too. Do you think your husband is having an affair?If not, then the snake here would simply signify the lies. What is really happening/ present:Woman - Fish - Tower - Bear - husbandFirst of what I can`T miss is how the woman and the man are being separated by the Tower. This speaks of definite isolation and emotional distance/ separation between you and him. I wonder though if he might see you as an asset to raise his status (or even finances), which is why he fights to keep you "secure" (the combo of Tower and bear makes me think of that). As for the future we havesnake - bear - birdsThis sounds like more conversations are to come, either about financial things, or conversations with a mother figure (your own mother or mother in law), and again with the lis and misinformations. Sorry, but this seems to be the ongoing theme for this spread. If we knight the man (to find out about his hidden agenda) we end up with the book and the snake again. Looks like a lot of secrets, dishonesty, misinformations right there. If we knight the woman to find out about your hidden thoughts, we end up with house and birds, seeing how important the family is to you. But also, how crowded it might be in your house.BTW do you have two children? The combinations said this could mean a woman with two children. lol Among other things of course. Anyway, sorry if that reading was far off the mark, but as I said I need some more practice. And of course i wished I oculd have told you something differently, something about happy love, but I just don`t see it in this spread. CeridwenTwirl,sorry to say but I think at the moment there are no non-Sag-related questions. Anyway I did a line of 5 for your question, and got.Snake - key - ring - clouds - coffinSo yes I definitely think he thinks it is a turn on. The ring being the focus has to do with unions (but maybe also going in circles and repeating the same things over and over again).Now with the Snake at the beginning of the line I wonder if he tries to lure you into an affair?Especially with the key, the YES-card, sandwiched in between?Does he want to make you the "other woman"?Or if not it might simply tell us that he either wants to seduce you or is tempted by you.Now the last 2 cards, clouds and coffin, I think this will be going to have an end after a period of confusion maybe.Looked up the combinationsRing + snake (7): agreement with a woman, relationship with “another” woman, difficult contractRing + key (33): contract will be signedRing + clouds (6): uncertain arrangement, suspicious contractRing + coffin (8): end of a relationship, contract is terminatedSnake + key (33): luck, success for a woman, solutionKey + ring (25): necessary commitment, stay on your path, keep your wordClouds + coffin (8): clarity, something is upKey + clouds (6): needed clarity, interferenceSnake + coffin (8): end of problems, ending for a womanTwirl quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:Twirl,sorry to say but I think at the moment there are no non-Sag-related questions. Anyway I did a line of 5 for your question, and got.Snake - key - ring - clouds - coffinSo yes I definitely think he thinks it is a turn on. The ring being the focus has to do with unions (but maybe also going in circles and repeating the same things over and over again).Now with the Snake at the beginning of the line I wonder if he tries to lure you into an affair?Especially with the key, the YES-card, sandwiched in between?Does he want to make you the "other woman"?Or if not it might simply tell us that he either wants to seduce you or is tempted by you.Now the last 2 cards, clouds and coffin, I think this will be going to have an end after a period of confusion maybe.Looked up the combinationsRing + snake (7): agreement with a woman, relationship with “another” woman, difficult contractRing + key (33): contract will be signedRing + clouds (6): uncertain arrangement, suspicious contractRing + coffin (8): end of a relationship, contract is terminatedSnake + key (33): luck, success for a woman, solutionKey + ring (25): necessary commitment, stay on your path, keep your wordClouds + coffin (8): clarity, something is upKey + clouds (6): needed clarity, interferenceSnake + coffin (8): end of problems, ending for a womanFabulous Ceri! I just ruled my icy Queen of Swords sword, so it may end quickly. Could be, he would like me to be the other. I'm not sure about his relationship status. I am fed up with if though & anything but turned on, lol. But who knows... So it's seducing.., well... I'm going to pull an oracle for you - perhaps it's not sag related TwirlI received some angel therapy for you Ceri. Quite possibly to get all those thoughts & dreams out of your mind Definitely in relation to something in regards to a non traditional relationship There is a little request with it to close your eyes now, take a deep breath & them ask your guides/angels to cleanse you of what is no longer needed in your energy field & of what they think is needed for you right now. Don't ask for anything else but just surrender & pay attention to feelings and impressions. I think that's your message vestaCeri, you did a wonderful reading, very accurate. I am not sure how to reply after that. I think he wants to hold on to me to keep his lies from surfacing. I feel stuck because I have no money so that I can leave and try to find some peace and happiness in my life. I have gotten to the point where I just don't care if I live in a shoebox as long as I am free and happy. I have packed up my things but I don't know where to go. He has turned my family against me. I can't trust them I am alone and don't care as long as I can find peace again. Thanks, I was hoping for something better as well. But I appreciate the help. Ceridwen quote:Originally posted by Twirl:I received some angel therapy for you Ceri. Quite possibly to get all those thoughts & dreams out of your mind Definitely in relation to something in regards to a non traditional relationship There is a little request with it to close your eyes now, take a deep breath & them ask your guides/angels to cleanse you of what is no longer needed in your energy field & of what they think is needed for you right now. Don't ask for anything else but just surrender & pay attention to feelings and impressions. I think that's your message Thank you.Yes, the episode has blown over for now. As I said, happens occasionally. And thank you for the oracle card. I did what you said, and received the message from deep down that it is time to let go of the "darkness" and what I really need is the "Sun".Had a very striking visual of the Sun actually.For me that is symbolizing - among some other things- that what I really need in my life is stop hiding but just showing myself, and it doesn`t really matter what anyone else is thinking.Well I certainly have started doing that a lot more, but there is always room for improvement. This is also a tricky phase, as I started getting more attention, and yes, that includes male attention, and I think this was one of the reasons I got into hiding to begin with, to avoid (unwelcome) attention (male or female), maybe because I realized I had no clue how to deal with it or define clear boundaries.But since I am a big girl now, I am pretty confident I can create healthy boundaries now. CeridwenVesta,I am sorry about the situation you are in. I really hope you will find a solution.Don`t you have any friends you can stay with for a while? How abouta job? Maybe that could be a good step, having a job and earning your own money, as this might make leaving easier, even if it might still take some patience to get to that point. tgem quote:Originally posted by Twirl:I received some angel therapy for you Ceri. Quite possibly to get all those thoughts & dreams out of your mind Definitely in relation to something in regards to a non traditional relationship There is a little request with it to close your eyes now, take a deep breath & them ask your guides/angels to cleanse you of what is no longer needed in your energy field & of what they think is needed for you right now. Don't ask for anything else but just surrender & pay attention to feelings and impressions. I think that's your message @Ceri- thinking of you 💙💙TwirlHi Update: very soon after your reading I got completely fed up with it & ended it indeed. So absolutely spot on Thank you!CeridwenHey, cool that it worked. I mean I am sorry it did not work for you, but I am glad my reading was rather accurateTwirl quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:Hey, cool that it worked. I mean I am sorry it did not work for you, but I am glad my reading was rather accurateNo it's cool that it didn't work, lol. I'm glad I rid myself and cool about the reading for sure Did you see the update on my other thread too?Ceridwenno, where is the other thread?Twirl http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum11/HTML/012078.html CeridwenYeah, I have seen it now. THanks for the update. I am actually a little surprised how well this has seemed to pan out. I mean I like looking at the images and weave a story with them, but I hardly REALLY believe it might work out like my thoughts tell me. But it seems it often does. BTW my daily spread this morning hadRider - Key - bouquetA lovely message will surely come my way today?Let us wait and see. I plan on going out tonight, just a little, with my parents, as there are some bands playing in town, just a tiny small event, and we will have a short look. So maybe it is about that. Going out for a little. TwirlYeah, I really think the Lenormand resonates well with you! Have fun in town CeridwenYes, though I pulled out my old small RWS deck again. Always the most trusted one. lolAs much as I love my other decks, this one seems to be the most honest one, and cutting in a way. Never gives me the answer I WANT to hear, and gets really annoyed, if I try to pull more than one clarifying card. LOL
I will do Vesta`s reading and then yours.
Jsut for now I will need some time to mentally detach. My reading`s might be too Mr-Sag-charged at the moment.
Would you like to do a general 1-week prediction or on a guy? Then: Why does he keep sending me this dubious messages. Does he truly think that's a turn-on?
I did a general reading for you, using 3x3 spread.
The key-card and focus is TOWERIt makes me think of legal issues being in the centre. I don´t know the Tower always makes me think of authorities, government and legal things in these readings, only rarely do I think about tall buildings. But it depends on the question I suppose.
Anyway this seems to be on the plate for now;
Trigger card is the Book, so there are secret s, secret dealings at work here. Of course it could also have to do with universities or college.
Anyway, the corner cards are:
Book/Birds; conversations either about knowledge or about something previously secret
Snake/HouseUoh, there seems to be fraud/ treachery in your home. Well that is what you wrote, too, right?
underlying factors:house - man - bird
it seems that there is an influence by a man (your husband?) on the home, which influences your present life.
Has there been talk about your living conditions?
the past:Book - fish - house
unknown financial issues at home?Are yuo a wealthy family or does the money play a role in maintaing the status quo in your family? Maybe even financial dependency?
Your thoughts/ hopes/ fears:
Book - woman - snake
Hmm, still makes me think of something deceptive, going on, but it is not easy to wade through the lies. Maybe it even involves another woman, too. Do you think your husband is having an affair?If not, then the snake here would simply signify the lies.
What is really happening/ present:
Woman - Fish - Tower - Bear - husband
First of what I can`T miss is how the woman and the man are being separated by the Tower. This speaks of definite isolation and emotional distance/ separation between you and him.
I wonder though if he might see you as an asset to raise his status (or even finances), which is why he fights to keep you "secure" (the combo of Tower and bear makes me think of that).
As for the future we have
snake - bear - birds
This sounds like more conversations are to come, either about financial things, or conversations with a mother figure (your own mother or mother in law), and again with the lis and misinformations.
Sorry, but this seems to be the ongoing theme for this spread.
If we knight the man (to find out about his hidden agenda) we end up with the book and the snake again. Looks like a lot of secrets, dishonesty, misinformations right there.
If we knight the woman to find out about your hidden thoughts, we end up with house and birds, seeing how important the family is to you. But also, how crowded it might be in your house.
BTW do you have two children?
The combinations said this could mean a woman with two children. lol Among other things of course.
Anyway, sorry if that reading was far off the mark, but as I said I need some more practice. And of course i wished I oculd have told you something differently, something about happy love, but I just don`t see it in this spread.
sorry to say but I think at the moment there are no non-Sag-related questions.
Anyway I did a line of 5 for your question, and got.
Snake - key - ring - clouds - coffin
So yes I definitely think he thinks it is a turn on. The ring being the focus has to do with unions (but maybe also going in circles and repeating the same things over and over again).Now with the Snake at the beginning of the line I wonder if he tries to lure you into an affair?Especially with the key, the YES-card, sandwiched in between?Does he want to make you the "other woman"?Or if not it might simply tell us that he either wants to seduce you or is tempted by you.
Now the last 2 cards, clouds and coffin, I think this will be going to have an end after a period of confusion maybe.
Looked up the combinations
Ring + snake (7): agreement with a woman, relationship with “another” woman, difficult contractRing + key (33): contract will be signedRing + clouds (6): uncertain arrangement, suspicious contractRing + coffin (8): end of a relationship, contract is terminated
Snake + key (33): luck, success for a woman, solutionKey + ring (25): necessary commitment, stay on your path, keep your wordClouds + coffin (8): clarity, something is up
Key + clouds (6): needed clarity, interferenceSnake + coffin (8): end of problems, ending for a woman
quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:Twirl,sorry to say but I think at the moment there are no non-Sag-related questions. Anyway I did a line of 5 for your question, and got.Snake - key - ring - clouds - coffinSo yes I definitely think he thinks it is a turn on. The ring being the focus has to do with unions (but maybe also going in circles and repeating the same things over and over again).Now with the Snake at the beginning of the line I wonder if he tries to lure you into an affair?Especially with the key, the YES-card, sandwiched in between?Does he want to make you the "other woman"?Or if not it might simply tell us that he either wants to seduce you or is tempted by you.Now the last 2 cards, clouds and coffin, I think this will be going to have an end after a period of confusion maybe.Looked up the combinationsRing + snake (7): agreement with a woman, relationship with “another” woman, difficult contractRing + key (33): contract will be signedRing + clouds (6): uncertain arrangement, suspicious contractRing + coffin (8): end of a relationship, contract is terminatedSnake + key (33): luck, success for a woman, solutionKey + ring (25): necessary commitment, stay on your path, keep your wordClouds + coffin (8): clarity, something is upKey + clouds (6): needed clarity, interferenceSnake + coffin (8): end of problems, ending for a woman
Fabulous Ceri! I just ruled my icy Queen of Swords sword, so it may end quickly. Could be, he would like me to be the other. I'm not sure about his relationship status. I am fed up with if though & anything but turned on, lol. But who knows... So it's seducing.., well...
I'm going to pull an oracle for you - perhaps it's not sag related
I think that's your message
I am not sure how to reply after that.
I think he wants to hold on to me to keep his lies from surfacing. I feel stuck because I have no money so that I can leave and try to find some peace and happiness in my life. I have gotten to the point where I just don't care if I live in a shoebox as long as I am free and happy. I have packed up my things but I don't know where to go. He has turned my family against me. I can't trust them I am alone and don't care as long as I can find peace again.
Thanks, I was hoping for something better as well. But I appreciate the help.
quote:Originally posted by Twirl:I received some angel therapy for you Ceri. Quite possibly to get all those thoughts & dreams out of your mind Definitely in relation to something in regards to a non traditional relationship There is a little request with it to close your eyes now, take a deep breath & them ask your guides/angels to cleanse you of what is no longer needed in your energy field & of what they think is needed for you right now. Don't ask for anything else but just surrender & pay attention to feelings and impressions. I think that's your message
Thank you.Yes, the episode has blown over for now. As I said, happens occasionally.
And thank you for the oracle card. I did what you said, and received the message from deep down that it is time to let go of the "darkness" and what I really need is the "Sun".Had a very striking visual of the Sun actually.
For me that is symbolizing - among some other things- that what I really need in my life is stop hiding but just showing myself, and it doesn`t really matter what anyone else is thinking.
Well I certainly have started doing that a lot more, but there is always room for improvement.
This is also a tricky phase, as I started getting more attention, and yes, that includes male attention, and I think this was one of the reasons I got into hiding to begin with, to avoid (unwelcome) attention (male or female), maybe because I realized I had no clue how to deal with it or define clear boundaries.
But since I am a big girl now, I am pretty confident I can create healthy boundaries now.
I am sorry about the situation you are in. I really hope you will find a solution.Don`t you have any friends you can stay with for a while? How abouta job? Maybe that could be a good step, having a job and earning your own money, as this might make leaving easier, even if it might still take some patience to get to that point.
@Ceri- thinking of you 💙💙
Update: very soon after your reading I got completely fed up with it & ended it indeed. So absolutely spot on Thank you!
I mean I am sorry it did not work for you, but I am glad my reading was rather accurate
quote:Originally posted by Ceridwen:Hey, cool that it worked. I mean I am sorry it did not work for you, but I am glad my reading was rather accurate
No it's cool that it didn't work, lol. I'm glad I rid myself and cool about the reading for sure
Did you see the update on my other thread too?
I am actually a little surprised how well this has seemed to pan out.
I mean I like looking at the images and weave a story with them, but I hardly REALLY believe it might work out like my thoughts tell me. But it seems it often does.
BTW my daily spread this morning had
Rider - Key - bouquet
A lovely message will surely come my way today?
Let us wait and see. I plan on going out tonight, just a little, with my parents, as there are some bands playing in town, just a tiny small event, and we will have a short look. So maybe it is about that. Going out for a little.
As much as I love my other decks, this one seems to be the most honest one, and cutting in a way. Never gives me the answer I WANT to hear, and gets really annoyed, if I try to pull more than one clarifying card. LOL
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