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T O P I C R E V I E WDaniPepper87Dear, I want to pull more than 2-3 cards for you, as I sense this can become a little more complicated (to read only with 2 cards)...I gotFishes - Lily - Whip - Dog - KeyWhip in the middle means more like a sexual, as the last card before is Lily... But I think first P will want to become friends to then leads for a more in deep relationship. Fishes - Key can mean a connection with souls, your souls... The meaning of all of this can be that you are souls who know each other. Lily-Dog can be too that you are friends that feels more like a family than your own family. I'm seeing that this relationship will go further, just time will tell you...DaniPepper87Well, I'd love you to do a reading about my coming year, what your cards can show me?? CeridwenThank you for pulling for me. I am still at work, but will pull for you when I am home. the spread is very interesting. Interestingly this is the P my first question was about, remember? When Ia sked which P would be the better option for me?for THIS one you drew Fish-Lily I think, so it is amazing that the same cards came up again.DaniPepper87No problem dear, I like to hear/read what people want to say. Very interesting you and this guy... I don't know if you believe in past lives, so I think you and him are from a previous life, as family members... And yes, I remember Fish-Lily coming again to you in the readings... Soulmate connection... But I don't think that all the times a soulmate union will be a love as partners... I've seen a lot of different kind of love around here! I do have a friend that she and her father are soulmates... I think you can be friends with him, but not that close one, because of his wife...CeridwenI think next year will bring a man into your lifeShip - Tree - BOOK - Lily - Sunthe central card is the book, so I think it has either something to do with studies/ knowledge, or it simply means that the man is as of yet unknown to you (Book and Lily). The underlying factors are Ship and tree, I don`t think tree relates to health matters here (because of the other cards), but there will be a change taking place, a gradual development. You will leave something behind (we do not know what, as this would have been prior tot he Ship card) and move into something that will grow firm roots but maybe nearly imperceptible to you as of now. HOwever in the future there is definitely a man (lily) and with lily and sun I think a happy relationship with him, stable, serene, calm, but also of course with the lily a successful and happy sexual relationship might unfold. If the tree however does have something to do with health in this spread, the man you meet might be a doctor. Could be, right?Also with ship and Sun as the bracked, maybe you will meet him on a cruise or on summer holidays in some sunny place? Ceridwen*bump* for DanitgemI'm nosy..have to ask: was that spread about THE "P?"Cuz if so...that spread makes me all giddy for you LOLDaniPepper87Hi hi Ceridwen!!Wow, what a great spread!! Well, this can be a spread of the knowledge, as next year I'm gonna make Reiki courses to help energetically people around me... BUT I'm happy a man will come into my life... Doctor?? Wow... but it is a possibility, as my father and mother are ill, and then they need to go to hospital to make a lot of exams, and the hospital my father goes is FAR!!! Interesting spread dear you got for me... Can we exchange again??Will this relationship be a long term one?CeridwenTGem,yes. I do think (not feel, but think) that Dani is right in her asessment of the situation (the one made with common reason, not the card-reader one, which is decidedly more... juicy and positive ). HOwever we do have to find a way to deal with the attraction that is apparently there. Well i guess it would be a start to be actually speaking with each other. To be honest I am not entirely sure how to deal with him, I mean the next time I am going to see him on stage. *scratches head* CeridwenDani,this both would fit! The reiki course, but also the doctor (and I am sorry to hear aobut your parents being sick actually that could be also part of the spread, you know with the tree there, and lily, sometimes seems to be about a father figure,t oo )So letīs see about longterm relationship potential thereTree - Storks - Mountain - Ring - RoadsHmm, I actually dont know. It seems as if there will be obstacles and delays. possibly after a promising initial development (how interesting the Tree came up again!), I wonder if you might already know that man, from your past or something like that. Anyway you will face some obstacls and a block, a seeming end to any development, but once you get through that obstacle there we find the Ring, which is great to see in a spread about long term relationship. But with the Road following it seems to me that a choice has to be taken. Either the man is still involved with someone else, or you have several options (2 probably). not necessarily between 2 suitors (could be though), but could also be that a relationship will have only potential if a certain general life change will be considered and accepted by you. AT least that is my initial impression of this. Well looking up the official combinations they say:Tree + stork (17): recoveryStork + mountain (21): slow progress, changes are stalledMountain + ring (25): lonely relationship, dutyRing + crossroad (22): multiple partners, multiple contracts, separationTree + crossroad (22): life changing decisionStork + ring (25): engagement, promise, contract changestgem"However we do have to find a way to deal with the attraction that is apparently there. Well i guess it would be a start to be actually speaking with each other. "YA think??!!! LMAOCeridwenYou know what I mean. I mean last time I was running away from the club, even BEFORE The concert was ending!Of course i had a reason to do so, as I thought my preordered cab was waiting outside, but seriously sometimes it might seem as if I am a little.... evasive, you know?And on these occasions well, he was pretty much talking about or to me during the show (short as ever), but I did not really respond to that, well not in the way at least that i was talking to him afterwards. You think he might have expected me to show up? Never mind,it`s not important I guess. lolCeridwenDani, did you see my response-reading for you in the midst of all the egocentric Me-talk? DaniPepper87Oh Ceridwen!! Sorry for not responding, I was making readings Well, obstacles is in any relationship hum? I see that mountain too can be mine mainly. I'm a no experient in love department, and I see the mountain as my own believes... tabus I need to overcome to become more and more lovely and I see too this card as my mother. She still thinks I go out to date my ex boyfriend... lolI see that after a lot of fights and delays, something can arise!! lol Better to be soon, I want to taste it ASAP hahahaha!! Thanks a lot for your readings, they are very very nice to see and you're a great Lenormand reader!! lolCeridwenThanks for responding. I donīt see the Mountain as totaly negative either. I relate to the block/ delay scenario most, and I think you are right. But most importantly something nice will come after it. I am in the same boat accidentally, too little experience for sure. But should that keep myself locked in for the rest of my life, just out of fear I canīt "keep up" with my age group?No, I certainly did not have a usual or normal romantic - social life so far, resulting in an inexperience that is more than unusual for an almost 40 year old one. But it is as it is.I canīt change the past, only the present. DaniPepper87Ceridwen, I can't even say that jerk I had was a boyfriend... He knew what I wanted and didn't give it to me: love and affection... And was the first guy who showed interest in me... 27 years old here, and I just want to form a family, kids and a house to keep... as I said to my friend once: I don't want to kill, to be president or to mess around... I only want a happy married life... CeridwenYou will get it. You woke up sooner than me. Well for me it seems to late now (at least for children), but the fact I let the first half of my life pass me by (romantically), is not an excuse to do the same with the second half of it. Sure I know that the options get more and more limited, but the weird thing is that I probably look better and feel better and am more outgoing than I have ever been or done in my life before. STrange, hu?I am sure however you will find the man who is going to treat you right. You deserve the best and you shall get him. DaniPepper87Wow... does your natal chart is full with planets on your 12th house???I have 3 planets there.... I know how it feels. Ironically, I fell in love almost every year since I got to school. Really!! But I suffered a lot of bullying and for more than 10 years, I was really off from all the romantic scene! And when you get older, better you get!! I sense I'm now a great piece of human being now than 4 years ago!! lolI am sure that you'll find someone too, and you can adopt a little girl!! Or boy!! Or 2 of them!! Ceridwen"Wow... does your natal chart is full with planets on your 12th house???"No, actually there is just Mars in there, but 2 degrees before my ASC. My 1st house is very full on the other hand (Neptune, NN, Sun, Mercury, Venus)"I have 3 planets there.... I know how it feels."Which planets? Which houses do they rule? Something to do with relationships?Ironically my 7th house ruler is conjunct my Sun in 1st house, I should have no problems getting into relationships at all. But then again that Sun-7th house ruler conjunction is in Sagittarius and it is pretty isolated (only getting a weak sextile from Uranus), it needs to be a little tickled by someone else`s planets. Well my 5th and 8th house are a bit difficult. 5th house in Taurus, ruler in Capricorn in 1st house square Pluto, ruler of 11th and 12th house. 8th house in Cancer, with Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house.Saturn in Cancer in 8th house, retrograde, and ruling 2nd house. Moon exactly quinkunx Saturn - there you have the complications. I would never even believe someone could be romantically intrested in me. Friendships are fine, I can do that, but once the question about attraction and possible intimacy arises, things get complicated. lolit has to do with feelings of insecurity and that basic "not ... enough" feeling about myself (Saturn, 2nd house, 8th house, plus Cancer will do that to you - and Moon in Aquarius will respond by retreating into an intellectual ivory tower)." Ironically, I fell in love almost every year since I got to school. Really!!"Hmm, to be honest I can`t quite remember when I last fell in love with anybody. In school yes, there were some, but afterwards, not really, maybe a little now and then, but never enough to become "dangerous" in terms of tempting me to leave my ivory tower. Led me to think that we can talk ourselve into and out of love, and it is not even really an emotional thing, it is a decision (Moon in aquarius arrogance and ignorance speaking through me!).And you can just switch it off if you really want to. "I was really off from all the romantic scene! "Yes, I have been taking myself out of the romantic game a long time ago, very long. And some years ago I became very aware of that, and just resigned to it, that this would just play no role in my life, it did not matter anyway, and love was just an imagination of my mind anyway. And it was okay, you can lead a good life without all of that. That was maybe a week before I literally bumped into Mr Sag. lolAnd he seemed tobe rather oblivious to my resignation. Meeting him was a shock, I mean it, it totally shocked me right out of my comfort zone and out of my mind into something else. I couldnīt deal with it back then, and so I preferred to disappear again. Anyway I learned a few things about how easy it is to switch off feelings. LOLWell first off I wouldn`t even of course admit that I was attracted to him, trying to find a different label for whatever that impression was he left. But seriously, *sighs* I fear this is just what it is, attraction. But when I finally came round admitting to myself (which was last year or so, only. after spending several years denying that. lol), I still felt safe, cause hey, not much of a chance he would feel even a little interest in me, right?That was almost okay with me, safe and familiar, admiring from afar is good, it reduces the risk of having to dare some real relating, intimacy whatever. To invest something for real. So when I learned he had gotten married in the meantime, I was devastated and relieved at the same time. Case closed, right`?And then he reopened the case, or rather Pandora`s box. But I figure it is an important stage for me to go through. I can`t go back anyway. In a way meeting him has been the catalyst and the cathartic experience I needed to change and take my life into my own hands, instead of just letting it pass me by. "And when you get older, better you get!! I sense I'm now a great piece of human being now than 4 years ago!! lol"lol Yes, 4 years ago, gosh, I would never want to go back to there again! Never, never never again!!!I hardly recognize the person I was then, just a shadow of the person I am now. Of course the person I am now is a tad too arrogant I think. "I am sure that you'll find someone too, and you can adopt a little girl!! Or boy!! Or 2 of them!! "I actually think that is very possible. I donīt quite feel like having to give birth myself to be honest. I think I would probably make a good stepmom, if I would make a good mom at all. MAybe i am too selfish for that. venuscorpio86Hello CeriI was wondering if you could interpret my natal chart? I posted it on a thread here in personal readings and winder about my aspects would love to get some insight into myself.Thank you CeridwenYour whole natal chart?Umph, sorry, that is a bit much (a thorough natal analysis would take many hours), but I can have a look and see what is standing out to me. What is your question? DaniPepper87Well, thanks for sharing your chart, I'm now going home, and then I'll share mine with you...Nice thing you have Moon in Aqua... I have mine in Leo... Do you want more arrogance than mine?? Saturn rules my 3rd ans 4th houses, and ie is sit on my second !!! lol...Ok need to go out now.... CeridwenWell Aqua Moon and Leo Moon are great in complementing each other (though of course fighting as well. lol)Actually my Duad Moon is in Leo. lolAnd a Sun in 1st house gives me enough of that arrogance I suppose. Yeah, Saturn in 2n makes sense, all SAturn-2nd deal with feelings of selfworth in some way (if it is good, they are rather confident, but in most cases I have encountered Saturn at least in the first half of life can be a bit like the Mountain card. lol my friend has Leo-SAturn in 2nd house conjunct 3rd cusp,r uling her 7th and 8th house - luckily for her it is part of a Grand fire trine, involving Moon and Neptune, and still she had her fair share of troubles with that 2nd house Saturn, always felt she was not smart enough, not intelligent enough - and she is one of the smartest people I have ever met!)
I got
Fishes - Lily - Whip - Dog - Key
Whip in the middle means more like a sexual, as the last card before is Lily... But I think first P will want to become friends to then leads for a more in deep relationship. Fishes - Key can mean a connection with souls, your souls... The meaning of all of this can be that you are souls who know each other. Lily-Dog can be too that you are friends that feels more like a family than your own family. I'm seeing that this relationship will go further, just time will tell you...
I am still at work, but will pull for you when I am home.
the spread is very interesting. Interestingly this is the P my first question was about, remember? When Ia sked which P would be the better option for me?for THIS one you drew Fish-Lily I think, so it is amazing that the same cards came up again.
I think you can be friends with him, but not that close one, because of his wife...
Ship - Tree - BOOK - Lily - Sun
the central card is the book, so I think it has either something to do with studies/ knowledge, or it simply means that the man is as of yet unknown to you (Book and Lily).
The underlying factors are Ship and tree, I don`t think tree relates to health matters here (because of the other cards), but there will be a change taking place, a gradual development. You will leave something behind (we do not know what, as this would have been prior tot he Ship card) and move into something that will grow firm roots but maybe nearly imperceptible to you as of now.
HOwever in the future there is definitely a man (lily) and with lily and sun I think a happy relationship with him, stable, serene, calm, but also of course with the lily a successful and happy sexual relationship might unfold.
If the tree however does have something to do with health in this spread, the man you meet might be a doctor. Could be, right?
Also with ship and Sun as the bracked, maybe you will meet him on a cruise or on summer holidays in some sunny place?
Wow, what a great spread!!
Well, this can be a spread of the knowledge, as next year I'm gonna make Reiki courses to help energetically people around me... BUT I'm happy a man will come into my life... Doctor?? Wow... but it is a possibility, as my father and mother are ill, and then they need to go to hospital to make a lot of exams, and the hospital my father goes is FAR!!! Interesting spread dear you got for me...
Can we exchange again??
Will this relationship be a long term one?
yes.
I do think (not feel, but think) that Dani is right in her asessment of the situation (the one made with common reason, not the card-reader one, which is decidedly more... juicy and positive ).
HOwever we do have to find a way to deal with the attraction that is apparently there. Well i guess it would be a start to be actually speaking with each other.
To be honest I am not entirely sure how to deal with him, I mean the next time I am going to see him on stage. *scratches head*
this both would fit! The reiki course, but also the doctor (and I am sorry to hear aobut your parents being sick actually that could be also part of the spread, you know with the tree there, and lily, sometimes seems to be about a father figure,t oo )
So letīs see about longterm relationship potential there
Tree - Storks - Mountain - Ring - Roads
Hmm, I actually dont know. It seems as if there will be obstacles and delays. possibly after a promising initial development (how interesting the Tree came up again!), I wonder if you might already know that man, from your past or something like that.
Anyway you will face some obstacls and a block, a seeming end to any development, but once you get through that obstacle there we find the Ring, which is great to see in a spread about long term relationship. But with the Road following it seems to me that a choice has to be taken. Either the man is still involved with someone else, or you have several options (2 probably). not necessarily between 2 suitors (could be though), but could also be that a relationship will have only potential if a certain general life change will be considered and accepted by you.
AT least that is my initial impression of this.
Well looking up the official combinations they say:
Tree + stork (17): recoveryStork + mountain (21): slow progress, changes are stalledMountain + ring (25): lonely relationship, dutyRing + crossroad (22): multiple partners, multiple contracts, separation
Tree + crossroad (22): life changing decisionStork + ring (25): engagement, promise, contract changes
YA think??!!! LMAO
I mean last time I was running away from the club, even BEFORE The concert was ending!
Of course i had a reason to do so, as I thought my preordered cab was waiting outside, but seriously sometimes it might seem as if I am a little.... evasive, you know?
And on these occasions well, he was pretty much talking about or to me during the show (short as ever), but I did not really respond to that, well not in the way at least that i was talking to him afterwards. You think he might have expected me to show up?
Never mind,it`s not important I guess. lol
did you see my response-reading for you in the midst of all the egocentric Me-talk?
Well, obstacles is in any relationship hum? I see that mountain too can be mine mainly. I'm a no experient in love department, and I see the mountain as my own believes... tabus I need to overcome to become more and more lovely and I see too this card as my mother. She still thinks I go out to date my ex boyfriend... lol
I see that after a lot of fights and delays, something can arise!! lol Better to be soon, I want to taste it ASAP hahahaha!!
Thanks a lot for your readings, they are very very nice to see and you're a great Lenormand reader!! lol
I donīt see the Mountain as totaly negative either. I relate to the block/ delay scenario most, and I think you are right. But most importantly something nice will come after it.
I am in the same boat accidentally, too little experience for sure. But should that keep myself locked in for the rest of my life, just out of fear I canīt "keep up" with my age group?No, I certainly did not have a usual or normal romantic - social life so far, resulting in an inexperience that is more than unusual for an almost 40 year old one. But it is as it is.I canīt change the past, only the present.
27 years old here, and I just want to form a family, kids and a house to keep... as I said to my friend once: I don't want to kill, to be president or to mess around... I only want a happy married life...
Well for me it seems to late now (at least for children), but the fact I let the first half of my life pass me by (romantically), is not an excuse to do the same with the second half of it. Sure I know that the options get more and more limited, but the weird thing is that I probably look better and feel better and am more outgoing than I have ever been or done in my life before. STrange, hu?
I am sure however you will find the man who is going to treat you right. You deserve the best and you shall get him.
I have 3 planets there.... I know how it feels. Ironically, I fell in love almost every year since I got to school. Really!! But I suffered a lot of bullying and for more than 10 years, I was really off from all the romantic scene! And when you get older, better you get!! I sense I'm now a great piece of human being now than 4 years ago!! lol
I am sure that you'll find someone too, and you can adopt a little girl!! Or boy!! Or 2 of them!!
My 1st house is very full on the other hand (Neptune, NN, Sun, Mercury, Venus)
"I have 3 planets there.... I know how it feels."Which planets? Which houses do they rule? Something to do with relationships?
Ironically my 7th house ruler is conjunct my Sun in 1st house, I should have no problems getting into relationships at all. But then again that Sun-7th house ruler conjunction is in Sagittarius and it is pretty isolated (only getting a weak sextile from Uranus), it needs to be a little tickled by someone else`s planets.
Well my 5th and 8th house are a bit difficult. 5th house in Taurus, ruler in Capricorn in 1st house square Pluto, ruler of 11th and 12th house.
8th house in Cancer, with Moon in Aquarius in 2nd house.Saturn in Cancer in 8th house, retrograde, and ruling 2nd house. Moon exactly quinkunx Saturn - there you have the complications.
I would never even believe someone could be romantically intrested in me. Friendships are fine, I can do that, but once the question about attraction and possible intimacy arises, things get complicated. lol
it has to do with feelings of insecurity and that basic "not ... enough" feeling about myself (Saturn, 2nd house, 8th house, plus Cancer will do that to you - and Moon in Aquarius will respond by retreating into an intellectual ivory tower).
" Ironically, I fell in love almost every year since I got to school. Really!!"Hmm, to be honest I can`t quite remember when I last fell in love with anybody. In school yes, there were some, but afterwards, not really, maybe a little now and then, but never enough to become "dangerous" in terms of tempting me to leave my ivory tower. Led me to think that we can talk ourselve into and out of love, and it is not even really an emotional thing, it is a decision (Moon in aquarius arrogance and ignorance speaking through me!).And you can just switch it off if you really want to.
"I was really off from all the romantic scene! "Yes, I have been taking myself out of the romantic game a long time ago, very long. And some years ago I became very aware of that, and just resigned to it, that this would just play no role in my life, it did not matter anyway, and love was just an imagination of my mind anyway. And it was okay, you can lead a good life without all of that.
That was maybe a week before I literally bumped into Mr Sag. lolAnd he seemed tobe rather oblivious to my resignation. Meeting him was a shock, I mean it, it totally shocked me right out of my comfort zone and out of my mind into something else. I couldnīt deal with it back then, and so I preferred to disappear again. Anyway I learned a few things about how easy it is to switch off feelings. LOLWell first off I wouldn`t even of course admit that I was attracted to him, trying to find a different label for whatever that impression was he left. But seriously, *sighs* I fear this is just what it is, attraction. But when I finally came round admitting to myself (which was last year or so, only. after spending several years denying that. lol), I still felt safe, cause hey, not much of a chance he would feel even a little interest in me, right?That was almost okay with me, safe and familiar, admiring from afar is good, it reduces the risk of having to dare some real relating, intimacy whatever. To invest something for real.
So when I learned he had gotten married in the meantime, I was devastated and relieved at the same time. Case closed, right`?
And then he reopened the case, or rather Pandora`s box.
But I figure it is an important stage for me to go through. I can`t go back anyway.
In a way meeting him has been the catalyst and the cathartic experience I needed to change and take my life into my own hands, instead of just letting it pass me by.
"And when you get older, better you get!! I sense I'm now a great piece of human being now than 4 years ago!! lol"lol Yes, 4 years ago, gosh, I would never want to go back to there again! Never, never never again!!!I hardly recognize the person I was then, just a shadow of the person I am now. Of course the person I am now is a tad too arrogant I think.
"I am sure that you'll find someone too, and you can adopt a little girl!! Or boy!! Or 2 of them!! "I actually think that is very possible. I donīt quite feel like having to give birth myself to be honest. I think I would probably make a good stepmom, if I would make a good mom at all. MAybe i am too selfish for that.
I was wondering if you could interpret my natal chart? I posted it on a thread here in personal readings and winder about my aspects would love to get some insight into myself.
Thank you
Nice thing you have Moon in Aqua... I have mine in Leo... Do you want more arrogance than mine??
Saturn rules my 3rd ans 4th houses, and ie is sit on my second !!! lol...
Ok need to go out now....
Yeah, Saturn in 2n makes sense, all SAturn-2nd deal with feelings of selfworth in some way (if it is good, they are rather confident, but in most cases I have encountered Saturn at least in the first half of life can be a bit like the Mountain card. lol my friend has Leo-SAturn in 2nd house conjunct 3rd cusp,r uling her 7th and 8th house - luckily for her it is part of a Grand fire trine, involving Moon and Neptune, and still she had her fair share of troubles with that 2nd house Saturn, always felt she was not smart enough, not intelligent enough - and she is one of the smartest people I have ever met!)
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