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T O P I C R E V I E WRosalind.... athenaiaWell this synastry is both excellent and complicated. First off, it's obvious there's a lot of adoration present here. With your Sun conjunct his Moon, you both understand each other on a psychic and physical level without even trying. Simply by being yourself, you resonate with him deeply emotionally. You ring a lot of bells for him physically as well. There is probably a lot of erotic tension here as his Mars is hovering nearby. With your Jupiter on his Sun, you guys probably share the same values, sense of humor.. there's probably of lot of synchronicity in your thoughts. You inspire him to do better and he has a big influence on your mind and ideas. Pallas conjunct Uranus + Pallas conjunct Saturn = you must have a lot of dreams about each other. Also a great teamwork combination. The difficulties = the synastry has a grand cross in it. There's tension present between both of you that's difficult to articulate. When things are good, it's hard not to see why you guys are meant for each other, yet nothing seems to manifest. When things are finally ramping up and it seems like something is finally going to happen, a bum note is hit and everything deflates. There's too much conflicting energy between both of you for things to gel as beautifully as lot of the synastry aspects promise. Sources of tension = Mars opposite his Moon/Mars. You guys go about things in completely different ways. Just by being yourself and asserting normally boundaries, this will deeply hurt him in a way that's difficult for you to understand. Jupiter square Jupiter = never really understanding where the other person is coming from in the grand scheme of things. May not understand the micro details that the other person will greatly value for their own reasons. Hard to sync up with each other's personal philosophies even in moments of deep understanding. I see a great love that is so wanted by both parties and yet it cannot pick itself up off the ground because of too many nebulous differences. It bogs down the chemistry. Rosalind....athenaiaYou never know.. with synastry like this, things always tend to reignite at unsuspecting moments. Rosalind quote:Originally posted by athenaia:You never know.. with synastry like this, things always tend to reignite at unsuspecting moments. You think its possible?athenaia quote:Originally posted by Rosalind: You think its possible?Definitely. He's a Pisces with a Cancer Moon, there's a saying that says "let go, or be dragged", both of those signs would rather be dragged. It may seem like he "moved on" with that irreverent Venus in Aries, and Mercury in Aries naturally tends to live in the present and never look back, but the deepest part of his masculinity (Sun/Moon/Mars) will probably always hold a torch for you. Rosalind quote:Originally posted by athenaia: Definitely. He's a Pisces with a Cancer Moon, there's a saying that says "let go, or be dragged", both of those signs would rather be dragged. It may seem like he "moved on" with that irreverent Venus in Aries, and Mercury in Aries naturally tends to live in the present and never look back, but the deepest part of his masculinity (Sun/Moon/Mars) will probably always hold a torch for you. .....athenaia quote:Originally posted by Rosalind: It does feel that way. That he forgot about me. That he moved on. Hurts me like hell because I want him back. And I simply dont know what to do.Hmm. Well transiting Chiron is still conjunct his Sun, so it makes sense a great hurt was something he experienced lately. Within the next two years Chiron will be conjunct his SN. This seems to be a particularly ripe moment to let him know how you feel. Not to mention Pluto is currently opposite his Moon and will soon be opposing his Mars. I'm sure he craves some kind of Big Love right now and not endless flirtations and flings. The New Moon tomorrow will be conjunct your NN so maybe mulling over a game plan on how to get him back in your life in some way will have auspicious, manifestation-laden magic behind it? I'm sure even just having him as a friend could release a lot of this grand cross tension that's been lingering. RosalindWait. Whats the thing with the 2 years? Can you elaborate please? I can exchange with Tarot and Cartomancy if you want.athenaia quote:Originally posted by Rosalind:Wait. Whats the thing with the 2 years? Can you elaborate please? I can exchange with Tarot and Cartomancy if you want.Oh I just mean that Chiron will be moving signs from Pisces on the 17th of this month and will then continue to move forward in Aries for the next 7 years. In about two years time is when I reckon it will be conjunct his SN (and then eventually his Venus and Mercury) Rosalind quote:Originally posted by athenaia: Oh I just mean that Chiron will be moving signs from Pisces on the 17th of this month and will then continue to move forward in Aries for the next 7 years. In about two years time is when I reckon it will be conjunct his SN (and then eventually his Venus and Mercury) And thats a bad thing right? I use to think Chiron was the healer but lately...athenaia quote:Originally posted by Rosalind: And thats a bad thing right? I use to think Chiron was the healer but lately...Well it could be both, for sure.. when transiting Chiron was conjunct my Mars, it was the worst period of my life. But in desperately wanting to change the misery I was surrounded by, I ended up propelling myself into one of the happiest periods of my life. So there are perks! But I think this guy will be very vulnerable for a while, so if you think he has some kind of upperhand, these transits are definitely letting you know you have more power over influencing an outcome than you may think Rosalind quote:Originally posted by athenaia: Well it could be both, for sure.. when transiting Chiron was conjunct my Mars, it was the worst period of my life. But in desperately wanting to change the misery I was surrounded by, I ended up propelling myself into one of the happiest periods of my life. So there are perks! But I think this guy will be very vulnerable for a while, so if you think he has some kind of upperhand, these transits are definitely letting you know you have more power over influencing an outcome than you may think .....athenaia quote:Originally posted by Rosalind: Right now we are separated and he is nowhere to be found. He seems unreachable. I hate Mercury Retro btw. I know he is deeply hurt but I want to fix things.Mercury RX ends tomorrow! Do you have his email by any chance? If you do maybe start off by saying light things that don't have a heavy energy - then if he responds well, you can work your way up to the unspoken things between you both if he seems willing. I just think the mere fact that you care would really move him. You're pragmatic Moon/Venus in Virgo with a steely, powerful Mars RX in Cap and Scorpio ASC. I imagine you must be very difficult to read with a masterful pokerface. Maybe he truly has never understood just how much you value him? This revelation could be big for a gentle soul like this guy.Rosalind quote:Originally posted by athenaia: Mercury RX ends tomorrow! Do you have his email by any chance? If you do maybe start off by saying light things that don't have a heavy energy - then if he responds well, you can work your way up to the unspoken things between you both if he seems willing. I just think the mere fact that you care would really move him. You're pragmatic Moon/Venus in Virgo with a steely, powerful Mars RX in Cap and Scorpio ASC. I imagine you must be very difficult to read with a masterful pokerface. Maybe he truly has never understood just how much you value him? This revelation could be big for a gentle soul like this guy.WOW. You are amazing. Spot on!RosalindAnyone else? Thank you.LunaIscariotAthenia gave you a great analysis regarding that sun-moon, sun-mars conjunction etc. So I’ll try point out other key factors and give another perspective.First thing I noticed is that grand cross being created with your Mars being the missing piece. Your mars is also your co chart ruler, so this configuration is STRONGLY felt by you in a very tangible, physical way. You’re probably ridiculously sexually attracted to him and your body literally hums with energy and sexual tension when'you’re around him and you just want to touch and be physical with him as that’s the nature of Mars lol. I also noticed your Sun is involved with this too, so he might make you feel more alive, more energetic and gives you a boost of confidence and self esteem, you are better able to express yourself around him with all this potent chemistry and dynamic energy also hitting your Sun. This is further amplified by his stellium of planets in your 5th house! You guys have a lot of fun together, and you enjoy his company immensely. Gives lots of infatuation and romantic feelings from your side.His Saturn in your Venus brings feeling of comittment and responsibility, willing to work through difficulties on your side. His Uranus on your ASC is electric and adds to the frenetic energy between you two, he might make you act out of character, more expressive and rebellious as your ascendant is very controlled in Scorpio with Pluto and Saturn there, but more erratic and unstable around him as that’s the nature of Uranus... you might find this uncomfortable after awhile since it goes so strongly against your basic nature. But it may also be a good thing in getting you to loosen up and feel more free and able to express your individually and take risks etc. As noted above, this grand cross can be very difficult to manage, but it’s also like superglue between both parties as there is just SOO much potent chemistry and energy swirling between you, for good and bad lol. It can present certain challenges as Athenia mentioned. As there is no TOB for him, a lot of important info is missing to be able to get a really good feel for this synasty and to see things from his perspective. So that’s all I really wanted to note for now, but if you manage to figure out a proper birth time I’d love to analyze this more! RosalindRegarding this part First thing I noticed is that grand cross being created with your Mars being the missing piece. Your mars is also your co chart ruler, so this configuration is STRONGLY felt by you in a very tangible, physical way. You’re probably ridiculously sexually attracted to him and your body literally hums with energy and sexual tension when'you’re around him and you just want to touch and be physical with him as that’s the nature of Mars lol.I also noticed your Sun is involved with this too, so he might make you feel more alive, more energetic and gives you a boost of confidence and self esteem, you are better able to express yourself around him with all this potent chemistry and dynamic energy also hitting your Sun. This is further amplified by his stellium of planets in your 5th house! You guys have a lot of fun together, and you enjoy his company immensely. Gives lots of infatuation and romantic feelings from your side.His Saturn in your Venus brings feeling of comittment and responsibility, willing to work through difficulties on your side. He was the one who wanted to touch me and stay close to me. I kept him at distance. Regarding Sun, he felt alive in my presence. Also he was the one who fell in love with me first. Everything he had touching my Sun was felt stronger by him until I realized I was in love with him too.Regarding Uranus on my ASC. Yes, I became unstable and that confused him greatly to the point that he thought and still thinking I played him. There were other reasons I acted that way.LunaIscariotOh wow interesting! Usually you would feel it more strongly as it’s your mars and sun, but it’s usual mutual anyways so maybe he just felt it first That’s why I really wish we had his birth time so we could see which houses the other planets that are in the grand cross rule and where this all falls in his chart. This might explain this. I’d be willing to bet it falls on his angles probably the ASC/DSC or his moon/Venus/mercury/Pluto rules one of his angles and relationship houses and that’s why he felt it so strongly and from the beginning. RosalindIts my Sun and his Mars.My Sun and his Moon ( I have read Moon feels vitalized by Sun energy)I noticed with his Saturn he wanted to stabilize my Venus.Rosalindbump!VixenFirst off, you both feel you really understand each other and are basically soulmates. But I would say that since he's Moon, more receptive planet, he feels it little bit more than you.At the same time, he may feel attacked by you, since he's sensitive Cancer Moon opposed you assertive Cappy Mars. Too bad your Moon is uaspected in this synastry. I wish i could see declonations.His Pluto squares your Sun and Mars. Do you feel like he tries to change you for his ow liking? I've been in Venus in Venus-Pluto square synastry and Sun in Sun-Pluto square synastry and both individuals tried to change the way i do my make-up, behave etc...Jupiter aspects suggest that you will enjoy lots of laugh togheter (Venus sextile Jupiter and Mars trine Jupiter) but unfortunately your Jupiters are in square, not too tight thougt but it suggest different worldview.Your Mercury square his Chrion looks like you have big potential to verbally hurt him. In my experience, Chiron-Mercury harsh aspects in synastry signify lot of pain through words. Chiron is usually one who's hurt.Your Juno conjunct his Vertex makes him feel like you're that ideal partner he's searching for.And your Mercury trine his Venus suggests he probably really likes your voice and way of thinking.Am i blind or it looks like his personal planets are more aspected than yours? If so, he probably feels it more. Wich is not that bad actually. Personally i think it's better when it's the dude that feels more, to be honest.RosalindYes, he feels everything more but since I don’t have his TOB the Vertex is off the table. Thank you!
First off, it's obvious there's a lot of adoration present here. With your Sun conjunct his Moon, you both understand each other on a psychic and physical level without even trying. Simply by being yourself, you resonate with him deeply emotionally. You ring a lot of bells for him physically as well. There is probably a lot of erotic tension here as his Mars is hovering nearby.
With your Jupiter on his Sun, you guys probably share the same values, sense of humor.. there's probably of lot of synchronicity in your thoughts. You inspire him to do better and he has a big influence on your mind and ideas.
Pallas conjunct Uranus + Pallas conjunct Saturn = you must have a lot of dreams about each other. Also a great teamwork combination.
The difficulties = the synastry has a grand cross in it. There's tension present between both of you that's difficult to articulate. When things are good, it's hard not to see why you guys are meant for each other, yet nothing seems to manifest. When things are finally ramping up and it seems like something is finally going to happen, a bum note is hit and everything deflates. There's too much conflicting energy between both of you for things to gel as beautifully as lot of the synastry aspects promise.
Sources of tension = Mars opposite his Moon/Mars. You guys go about things in completely different ways. Just by being yourself and asserting normally boundaries, this will deeply hurt him in a way that's difficult for you to understand.
Jupiter square Jupiter = never really understanding where the other person is coming from in the grand scheme of things. May not understand the micro details that the other person will greatly value for their own reasons. Hard to sync up with each other's personal philosophies even in moments of deep understanding.
I see a great love that is so wanted by both parties and yet it cannot pick itself up off the ground because of too many nebulous differences. It bogs down the chemistry.
quote:Originally posted by athenaia:You never know.. with synastry like this, things always tend to reignite at unsuspecting moments.
You think its possible?
quote:Originally posted by Rosalind: You think its possible?
Definitely. He's a Pisces with a Cancer Moon, there's a saying that says "let go, or be dragged", both of those signs would rather be dragged.
It may seem like he "moved on" with that irreverent Venus in Aries, and Mercury in Aries naturally tends to live in the present and never look back, but the deepest part of his masculinity (Sun/Moon/Mars) will probably always hold a torch for you.
quote:Originally posted by athenaia: Definitely. He's a Pisces with a Cancer Moon, there's a saying that says "let go, or be dragged", both of those signs would rather be dragged. It may seem like he "moved on" with that irreverent Venus in Aries, and Mercury in Aries naturally tends to live in the present and never look back, but the deepest part of his masculinity (Sun/Moon/Mars) will probably always hold a torch for you.
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quote:Originally posted by Rosalind: It does feel that way. That he forgot about me. That he moved on. Hurts me like hell because I want him back. And I simply dont know what to do.
Hmm. Well transiting Chiron is still conjunct his Sun, so it makes sense a great hurt was something he experienced lately. Within the next two years Chiron will be conjunct his SN. This seems to be a particularly ripe moment to let him know how you feel.
Not to mention Pluto is currently opposite his Moon and will soon be opposing his Mars. I'm sure he craves some kind of Big Love right now and not endless flirtations and flings.
The New Moon tomorrow will be conjunct your NN so maybe mulling over a game plan on how to get him back in your life in some way will have auspicious, manifestation-laden magic behind it? I'm sure even just having him as a friend could release a lot of this grand cross tension that's been lingering.
quote:Originally posted by Rosalind:Wait. Whats the thing with the 2 years? Can you elaborate please? I can exchange with Tarot and Cartomancy if you want.
Oh I just mean that Chiron will be moving signs from Pisces on the 17th of this month and will then continue to move forward in Aries for the next 7 years. In about two years time is when I reckon it will be conjunct his SN (and then eventually his Venus and Mercury)
quote:Originally posted by athenaia: Oh I just mean that Chiron will be moving signs from Pisces on the 17th of this month and will then continue to move forward in Aries for the next 7 years. In about two years time is when I reckon it will be conjunct his SN (and then eventually his Venus and Mercury)
And thats a bad thing right? I use to think Chiron was the healer but lately...
quote:Originally posted by Rosalind: And thats a bad thing right? I use to think Chiron was the healer but lately...
Well it could be both, for sure.. when transiting Chiron was conjunct my Mars, it was the worst period of my life. But in desperately wanting to change the misery I was surrounded by, I ended up propelling myself into one of the happiest periods of my life. So there are perks! But I think this guy will be very vulnerable for a while, so if you think he has some kind of upperhand, these transits are definitely letting you know you have more power over influencing an outcome than you may think
quote:Originally posted by athenaia: Well it could be both, for sure.. when transiting Chiron was conjunct my Mars, it was the worst period of my life. But in desperately wanting to change the misery I was surrounded by, I ended up propelling myself into one of the happiest periods of my life. So there are perks! But I think this guy will be very vulnerable for a while, so if you think he has some kind of upperhand, these transits are definitely letting you know you have more power over influencing an outcome than you may think
quote:Originally posted by Rosalind: Right now we are separated and he is nowhere to be found. He seems unreachable. I hate Mercury Retro btw. I know he is deeply hurt but I want to fix things.
Mercury RX ends tomorrow! Do you have his email by any chance? If you do maybe start off by saying light things that don't have a heavy energy - then if he responds well, you can work your way up to the unspoken things between you both if he seems willing.
I just think the mere fact that you care would really move him. You're pragmatic Moon/Venus in Virgo with a steely, powerful Mars RX in Cap and Scorpio ASC. I imagine you must be very difficult to read with a masterful pokerface. Maybe he truly has never understood just how much you value him? This revelation could be big for a gentle soul like this guy.
quote:Originally posted by athenaia: Mercury RX ends tomorrow! Do you have his email by any chance? If you do maybe start off by saying light things that don't have a heavy energy - then if he responds well, you can work your way up to the unspoken things between you both if he seems willing. I just think the mere fact that you care would really move him. You're pragmatic Moon/Venus in Virgo with a steely, powerful Mars RX in Cap and Scorpio ASC. I imagine you must be very difficult to read with a masterful pokerface. Maybe he truly has never understood just how much you value him? This revelation could be big for a gentle soul like this guy.
WOW. You are amazing. Spot on!
First thing I noticed is that grand cross being created with your Mars being the missing piece. Your mars is also your co chart ruler, so this configuration is STRONGLY felt by you in a very tangible, physical way. You’re probably ridiculously sexually attracted to him and your body literally hums with energy and sexual tension when'you’re around him and you just want to touch and be physical with him as that’s the nature of Mars lol.
I also noticed your Sun is involved with this too, so he might make you feel more alive, more energetic and gives you a boost of confidence and self esteem, you are better able to express yourself around him with all this potent chemistry and dynamic energy also hitting your Sun. This is further amplified by his stellium of planets in your 5th house! You guys have a lot of fun together, and you enjoy his company immensely. Gives lots of infatuation and romantic feelings from your side.His Saturn in your Venus brings feeling of comittment and responsibility, willing to work through difficulties on your side.
His Uranus on your ASC is electric and adds to the frenetic energy between you two, he might make you act out of character, more expressive and rebellious as your ascendant is very controlled in Scorpio with Pluto and Saturn there, but more erratic and unstable around him as that’s the nature of Uranus... you might find this uncomfortable after awhile since it goes so strongly against your basic nature. But it may also be a good thing in getting you to loosen up and feel more free and able to express your individually and take risks etc.
As noted above, this grand cross can be very difficult to manage, but it’s also like superglue between both parties as there is just SOO much potent chemistry and energy swirling between you, for good and bad lol. It can present certain challenges as Athenia mentioned.
As there is no TOB for him, a lot of important info is missing to be able to get a really good feel for this synasty and to see things from his perspective. So that’s all I really wanted to note for now, but if you manage to figure out a proper birth time I’d love to analyze this more!
He was the one who wanted to touch me and stay close to me. I kept him at distance.
Regarding Sun, he felt alive in my presence. Also he was the one who fell in love with me first. Everything he had touching my Sun was felt stronger by him until I realized I was in love with him too.
Regarding Uranus on my ASC. Yes, I became unstable and that confused him greatly to the point that he thought and still thinking I played him. There were other reasons I acted that way.
My Sun and his Moon ( I have read Moon feels vitalized by Sun energy)
I noticed with his Saturn he wanted to stabilize my Venus.
His Pluto squares your Sun and Mars. Do you feel like he tries to change you for his ow liking? I've been in Venus in Venus-Pluto square synastry and Sun in Sun-Pluto square synastry and both individuals tried to change the way i do my make-up, behave etc...
Jupiter aspects suggest that you will enjoy lots of laugh togheter (Venus sextile Jupiter and Mars trine Jupiter) but unfortunately your Jupiters are in square, not too tight thougt but it suggest different worldview.
Your Mercury square his Chrion looks like you have big potential to verbally hurt him. In my experience, Chiron-Mercury harsh aspects in synastry signify lot of pain through words. Chiron is usually one who's hurt.
Your Juno conjunct his Vertex makes him feel like you're that ideal partner he's searching for.And your Mercury trine his Venus suggests he probably really likes your voice and way of thinking.
Am i blind or it looks like his personal planets are more aspected than yours? If so, he probably feels it more. Wich is not that bad actually. Personally i think it's better when it's the dude that feels more, to be honest.
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