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T O P I C R E V I E WhippichickSee, this is why I embrace this form so much...So much of my mind lives here! I posted a while back on 20-somethings and anger...And as I more and more look at this issue I wonder:It is in my 21 year old daughters' favor to recognize her heart defect and how that set upon havock on her developing brain..Then early substance abuse.The frontal lobe is our brake system of the brain...it lets us say "hey, wait, this might not be good IF I do this...reconsider"And it is not fully developed until our mid 20's!So you mix the generational issues with the normal development of the brain and you get? An angry society of youngins.Sure there are alot of this generation, which are quite fine...my eldest is one, tho she surely imbided in experimentation and anger issues.This really concerns me, not only as a parent, but those who will follow us..and become, councilmen, mayors, senators, governors, presidents....I dunno, early morning PIsces ponderings~t~LexxigramerI totally agree.I have noticed,even in myself;how thinking changed/changes after age 23;then another change about age 28;and at about age 33 thinking finally becomes what it basically will be from thereon.Maybe that is why one has to be at least age 35 to be allowed to run for president of The United States?virgolotus.PixieJaneYou know, I wonder if the brain develops in the 20s or if our lifestyles changes the brain so that in the 20s it changes.Reasons to think the latter: older men are supposed to lose memory and yet a guy getting brain scans showed his memory getting stronger AFTER he took a job as a cab driver, which strongly suggests the brain is a muscle, it gets weak & flabby when you don't use it, but can get stronger with mental exercise (and I think there's circumstantial evidence that mental exercises like doing puzzles help stave off Alzheimer's, too), and I wonder if that applies to other areas of the brain as well. Also, society used to employ teens in positions of responsibility and they sometimes, I'd say about as much as the adults, could show brilliance and self-control doing it (while also daring at times, such as Joan of Arc, so could those much older), so I wonder if their brains didn't "mature faster." What I'm wondering is happening is that people are kept kids longer than they used to, and therefore their brains don't NEED to develop. And in a bored, entitled lifestyle starved for novelty (or conversely a desperate life that punishes submission), social bonds can often be dependent on being reckless (and the experimenting, especially if sheltered for many years so that it's especially reckless & ignorant in college) also encourages the brain to be as it is. But once a person settles down and survival (that is money) becomes much more about not rocking the boat then the brain adapts to fit (much like that cab driver's brain adapted to remember routes). That is I wonder, which comes first, the chicken or the egg, the phoenix or the fire? Does the brain shape how one lives life, or does the way one lives life shape the brain? I'm really not that sure. And even though I've changed a lot through the years I can't even say for certain why that's so. PixieJaneOh, and btw, I don't think they're as angry now as they were before. In any case, they certainly aren't as violent, and that's documented.mockingbird quote:Originally posted by PixieJane:That is I wonder, which comes first, the chicken or the egg, the phoenix or the fire? Does the brain shape how one lives life, or does the way one lives life shape the brain? I'm really not that sure. What an eloquent way to put it, and I'd say, "Both."It's why meditation can be such a wonderful thing hippichickgreat replies, ladies, thank you!!!Yes, the age old question nature vs nurture..Chicken or egg.I suppose we may never know,still pondering~ AquacheekaVery true, the things I did at 21-23, I would not do today. I feel more logical now than I was just a few short years ago.Having said that, I never did drugs or smoked or anything. Frontal lobe development rules impulse control and dulls our sense of fear, sure, but there is something to be said for baseline IQ.
So much of my mind lives here!
I posted a while back on 20-somethings and anger...
And as I more and more look at this issue I wonder:
It is in my 21 year old daughters' favor to recognize her heart defect and how that set upon havock on her developing brain..
Then early substance abuse.
The frontal lobe is our brake system of the brain...it lets us say "hey, wait, this might not be good IF I do this...reconsider"
And it is not fully developed until our mid 20's!
So you mix the generational issues with the normal development of the brain and you get? An angry society of youngins.
Sure there are alot of this generation, which are quite fine...my eldest is one, tho she surely imbided in experimentation and anger issues.
This really concerns me, not only as a parent, but those who will follow us..and become, councilmen, mayors, senators, governors, presidents....
I dunno, early morning PIsces ponderings~
t~
Reasons to think the latter: older men are supposed to lose memory and yet a guy getting brain scans showed his memory getting stronger AFTER he took a job as a cab driver, which strongly suggests the brain is a muscle, it gets weak & flabby when you don't use it, but can get stronger with mental exercise (and I think there's circumstantial evidence that mental exercises like doing puzzles help stave off Alzheimer's, too), and I wonder if that applies to other areas of the brain as well. Also, society used to employ teens in positions of responsibility and they sometimes, I'd say about as much as the adults, could show brilliance and self-control doing it (while also daring at times, such as Joan of Arc, so could those much older), so I wonder if their brains didn't "mature faster."
What I'm wondering is happening is that people are kept kids longer than they used to, and therefore their brains don't NEED to develop. And in a bored, entitled lifestyle starved for novelty (or conversely a desperate life that punishes submission), social bonds can often be dependent on being reckless (and the experimenting, especially if sheltered for many years so that it's especially reckless & ignorant in college) also encourages the brain to be as it is. But once a person settles down and survival (that is money) becomes much more about not rocking the boat then the brain adapts to fit (much like that cab driver's brain adapted to remember routes).
That is I wonder, which comes first, the chicken or the egg, the phoenix or the fire? Does the brain shape how one lives life, or does the way one lives life shape the brain? I'm really not that sure. And even though I've changed a lot through the years I can't even say for certain why that's so.
quote:Originally posted by PixieJane:That is I wonder, which comes first, the chicken or the egg, the phoenix or the fire? Does the brain shape how one lives life, or does the way one lives life shape the brain? I'm really not that sure.
Yes, the age old question nature vs nurture..Chicken or egg.
I suppose we may never know,
still pondering~
Having said that, I never did drugs or smoked or anything. Frontal lobe development rules impulse control and dulls our sense of fear, sure, but there is something to be said for baseline IQ.
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