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T O P I C R E V I E WSwanlake1) You turn off the music you listen to..eg when "in love", going through a "Break up" etc. 2) You quit watching TV, etc3) You quit FaceBook4) you abandon your cell phone5) you abandon all technology devicesFOR 12 MONTHS..6)What would be your reaction at the thought of all this?This decides how unreal your life has become.Real Reality is- HOW you would cope with your life without these Outside distractions interfering with Your Mind? ikjaLife would be extremely boring and I doubt that I would have much to talk about. Would probably have to resort to reading and going for walks to amuse myself xDopGangI'd spend a LOT of time outdoors! Heat nor cold bothers me and I love being outside! Would I prefer my technology? Absolutely and I'd miss it but it's not the end of the world. I'd still enjoy every minute of life that I could! AquacheekaI find this reverence for the primitive so boring.I mean, what is to stop those who think life is terrible with modern conveniences from going and joining the Massai in Kenya? They're very friendly and welcoming, my dad has met them on numerous occasions. There is no real reason why people who resent modern civilization can't simply go forage for their food and pick their own a$$es in the Chilean jungle... be my guest....Ami AnneGreat point, S!------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/Jo BI'd probably start talking to myself. Wait, I do that already!I think technology at its most basic level has its clear uses for broadcasting important news, locally and globally, and phones are needed for emergency situations at the very least. Law enforcment requires technology. We could never go back to pre-technology times if we wanted our society to remain stable. There are too many people in the world and we've come to depend on technology. It would completely break down or at least become a bit of a mess. On the other hand, I could do without social media sites. I've never tweeted or instagrammed and I rarely touch my FB page these days. I have a personal website for my music. I try to use the internet just for research, info-gathering and entertainment (movies, music).Being a pre-internet/cellphone person however I've known what it is like to spend time ONLY in the "real" world (granted, we had landline phones and TVs) and it was just as good when I was younger without all this additional social media technology. But you can't shun technology just because of that - it brings all sorts of opportunities and knowledge to you you might not never have discovered without it.Solitude suits me, and I could happily go on a spiritual retreat to Tibet, but we are social beings too. Nothing beats face-to-face communication, and in this respect I am anti-social media per se because I'm, you know, old school. But I love the internet for other reasons. DopGangExactly, Jo B. I grew up riding my bicycle and playing outside with friends. Jo BOh forgot to say..I think the potential problem here is not technology itself, but ADDICTION to technology. That's something only we as individuals can control. Eg, I admit I've been somewhat of a video gaming addict in the past. It's almost as bad as being on drugs, I can tell you. Odette quote:Originally posted by Swanlake:1) You turn off the music you listen to..eg when "in love", going through a "Break up" etc. 2) You quit watching TV, etc3) You quit FaceBook4) you abandon your cell phone5) you abandon all technology devicesFOR 12 MONTHS..6)What would be your reaction at the thought of all this?This decides how unreal your life has become.Real Reality is- HOW you would cope with your life without these Outside distractions interfering with Your Mind? 1) Music is awesome and I'm never giving it up. If I had no music, I would probably make my own lol2) I don't watch much TV anyway :/ so this wouldn't affect me.3) Quit FB a long time ago. No interest in going back. 4) Communication is important to me because of the people I am communicating with. I would gladly give up my phone if I had an alternate and just as efficient way to communicate... eg. telepathy 5) Not the ones that are significant to acquiring knowledge, personal growth and communicating with fellow humans from across the globe!If I had to give this up for a year, I would feel lonelier. I wouldn't be able to Skype with friends and family overseas. LeeLoo2014Did you, Swanlake? Care to share the experience? Thanks!------------------ I seem to have loved you in numberless forms... AstroMandalaSummer ReadingsikjaBeing someone who likes keeping up to date with current affairs and new world music releases, I think that the internet is one of the best inventions. All of that knowledge and material at your fingertips?! I cannot get enough of it. And now, the ability to discuss this knowledge with people across the global is absolutely fantastic!I grew up asking questions about how other people lived and why people were mean to each other. I had little interest in nature and playing games with other children (tbh). Therefore, being part of an international community is right up my street.I also get my specialist music from the Internet. Without globalisation and its characteristics, some genres (afrobeat) would have failed to gain popularity. Which would have been such a shame!So, in my opinion, the pros of technology definitely outweigh the cons.Jo Bikja - Swanlake, how would you be able to ask such deep questions without the aid of technology, ie the internet? Are you telling us all to bugger off? We wouldn't be able to come back and tell you our conclusions if we threw our PCs out the window.Come to think of it, wouldn't you miss the internet as a means to spread your ideology? PS, how old are you anyway? An approximation will do, it doesn't have to be exact. I'm being flippant, I know. I need to go and let off some steam in the real world. DopGangI also agree with Ikja. Very well said! I'm an escapist though. I frequently escape most forms of technology on a regular basis - daily walks, bike rides, hiking, yoga. Music would be the most difficult for me to give up. Television would be the easiest. MoonWitchI can't imagine not listening to music for a whole year. What kind of life would that even be?!charlieI can deal with it all except not listening to music. I'd go nuts!BellaFenice quote:Originally posted by ikja:Being someone who likes keeping up to date with current affairs and new world music releases, I think that the internet is one of the best inventions. All of that knowledge and material at your fingertips?! I cannot get enough of it. And now, the ability to discuss this knowledge with people across the global is absolutely fantastic!I grew up asking questions about how other people lived and why people were mean to each other. I had little interest in nature and playing games with other children (tbh). Therefore, being part of an international community is right up my street.I also get my specialist music from the Internet. Without globalisation and its characteristics, some genres (afrobeat) would have failed to gain popularity. Which would have been such a shame!So, in my opinion, the pros of technology definitely outweigh the cons.Well said! I fail to see how using technology in moderation is a form of interfering with your mind, when in fact it can be highly educational. What is the 'real reality' by the way? PixieJaneI sort of did this when I was 17-18 (from one birthday to the next). It was an intentional experiment by the two training me in the occult (and also read books by Linda Goodman for the first time, but is that really different than reading it on the internet?). The cinema was a rare treat and I was allowed to watch videos for strictly educational purposes.The area I was in was such that you couldn't watch TV unless you had cable or dish anyway so that plenty of locals did without it (especially those I knew who were off the grid). This was the year I ended up joining a Dungeons & Dragons campaign, and it was different from watching TV in that there were no commercials, our minds were engaged rather than passively watching (and I was inspired to read a lot of history, philosophy, and other topics), we bonded with each other during and after the game (whereas bonding through TV shows typically takes place after the show is over), and it was more exciting as we knew there was random events generated and our choices mattered (no script was going to make everything okay after). It was a lot of fun, but after I turned 18 I went back to TV (and many of those I gamed with were eager to show many movies and shows). Of course stories have bonded people together for thousands of years, be they myth, legend, or TV shows.I didn't listen to much music as I didn't have anything to listen to and the radios weren't much better than the TV with reception a very iffy thing (and so many commercials and/or repeating the same song ad nauseum, or otherwise not interesting to me). However, plenty of others in the same boat sang songs themselves, and this was when I had a haunting experience bonding with Dianic witches while chanting a chorus line with so many on a beach while a few played instruments or sang the song. Which is similar to people bonding in music in other ways, including in many churches (this was also the time I went through that experience with the Russian Orthodox), by the way.Of course song and dance is wired into our species. Even things like rap battles of today have a long and ancient history as in flyting (there was a similar ancient Chinese practice but I forget the name of it), and I'm pretty sure I read of an ancient god that specialized in such satirical and insulting verses. As this was mostly the year 2000 things like FB, cell phones (which were present but not to the level of today, and I certainly didn't have one at 17 while out in the sticks) weren't an issue. Though I think it's noteworthy that even plenty of people off the grid who generated their own power (and I knew one family that SOLD surplus energy to the power companies!) and lived a very rural and often hippie like lifestyle still had ways to hook up to the internet as it was just too useful (and a lot cheaper back then than phone). Heck, even many "technomads" did so, including one who lived on a motorcycle (who would just go camping at various sites for as long as he could before moving to another camping site). And these days even many of the homeless in the USA have phones with internet and even a surprising number of laptops. I suppose one could say that those who built their own home with cob, produced or otherwise gathered (foraging, hunting, fishing, etc) their own food, etc have more of an idea of what goes into their survival but not knowing doesn't make it any less real (even if I did see a video of some woman who said she was going to get her meat elsewhere after she ordered it and as a joke they made it sound as if a cow was shot and then cut up with a chainsaw for her meat, did she really think there was an alternate source of beef? ). People have been buying their food from others for thousands of years now, and even in the stone age days I'm sure many didn't get food for one reason or another but did something else for their tribe instead.During this time I generally used a stove and also a microwave. I also used fire pits and cob ovens, but I don't see how that's particularly different (other than electricity). I rode in cars (didn't have a license despite being 17 due to my technically being a runaway) as well as rode on horses but they work about the same. Nothing romantic about riding a horse pooping everywhere that may not appreciate being ridden and also making the rider smelly and sore (and gods help the one dumb enough to let a horse ridden a lot get into water to drink without dismounting!) though there is something to be said about not being dependent on fossil fuels (I'd prefer a bicycle myself--which can be used so often now thanks to technology paving roads and bike paths as well as mass producing bikes). And I'd think traveling a long ways (especially by plane) would broaden one's horizons, too.That all said, I have thought it would be good to "flush out" a lot of garbage from my life by living the life of a hermit with little use of technology for another year. I'm sure many things would occur to me that otherwise wouldn't (just as some things would NOT occur to me that otherwise would) but I haven't figured out how to build my life back up after doing that, and that's the reality. Of course there are days I'm wistful about the freedom I had as little more than a kid when I could carry everything I own on my person and just move wherever I desired, but so far the price would not be worth it to return to that--especially as what I have now is worth the loss of freedom I once enjoyed.ReadingTheStars95The only things I would really miss would be 1. My Music2. The internet, for research/study reasons.I don't even have a cell phone as it is.Now.. If I was living on the beach, out in Jamaica or something.. And, had a bunch of people playing steel drums around me all the time.. And, any type of live reggae that might appear.. I think I would be pretty set, to be honest.ikjaRTS95,❤️ Reggae!Are you a Jah Cure fan? (If not, go seek him!) lolbansheequeenI adapt to new situations well so I'd get used to it quick lol. are you asking if everyone did this at once or only you and everyone else is still using technology? Because it would be different. If it was just me I would have absolutely nothing to do lol. I'd read a lot. Probably work on my art more. I don't watch tv anymore and don't have Facebook anymore either.. I feel like I just like lay there thinking a lot,
FOR 12 MONTHS..
6)What would be your reaction at the thought of all this?
This decides how unreal your life has become.Real Reality is- HOW you would cope with your life without these Outside distractions interfering with Your Mind?
Would I prefer my technology? Absolutely and I'd miss it but it's not the end of the world. I'd still enjoy every minute of life that I could!
I mean, what is to stop those who think life is terrible with modern conveniences from going and joining the Massai in Kenya? They're very friendly and welcoming, my dad has met them on numerous occasions. There is no real reason why people who resent modern civilization can't simply go forage for their food and pick their own a$$es in the Chilean jungle... be my guest....
------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE.
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Wait, I do that already!
I think technology at its most basic level has its clear uses for broadcasting important news, locally and globally, and phones are needed for emergency situations at the very least. Law enforcment requires technology. We could never go back to pre-technology times if we wanted our society to remain stable. There are too many people in the world and we've come to depend on technology. It would completely break down or at least become a bit of a mess.
On the other hand, I could do without social media sites. I've never tweeted or instagrammed and I rarely touch my FB page these days. I have a personal website for my music. I try to use the internet just for research, info-gathering and entertainment (movies, music).
Being a pre-internet/cellphone person however I've known what it is like to spend time ONLY in the "real" world (granted, we had landline phones and TVs) and it was just as good when I was younger without all this additional social media technology. But you can't shun technology just because of that - it brings all sorts of opportunities and knowledge to you you might not never have discovered without it.
Solitude suits me, and I could happily go on a spiritual retreat to Tibet, but we are social beings too. Nothing beats face-to-face communication, and in this respect I am anti-social media per se because I'm, you know, old school.
But I love the internet for other reasons.
I grew up riding my bicycle and playing outside with friends.
Eg, I admit I've been somewhat of a video gaming addict in the past. It's almost as bad as being on drugs, I can tell you.
quote:Originally posted by Swanlake:1) You turn off the music you listen to..eg when "in love", going through a "Break up" etc. 2) You quit watching TV, etc3) You quit FaceBook4) you abandon your cell phone5) you abandon all technology devicesFOR 12 MONTHS..6)What would be your reaction at the thought of all this?This decides how unreal your life has become.Real Reality is- HOW you would cope with your life without these Outside distractions interfering with Your Mind?
1) Music is awesome and I'm never giving it up. If I had no music, I would probably make my own lol2) I don't watch much TV anyway :/ so this wouldn't affect me.3) Quit FB a long time ago. No interest in going back. 4) Communication is important to me because of the people I am communicating with. I would gladly give up my phone if I had an alternate and just as efficient way to communicate... eg. telepathy 5) Not the ones that are significant to acquiring knowledge, personal growth and communicating with fellow humans from across the globe!If I had to give this up for a year, I would feel lonelier. I wouldn't be able to Skype with friends and family overseas.
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AstroMandala
Summer Readings
I grew up asking questions about how other people lived and why people were mean to each other. I had little interest in nature and playing games with other children (tbh). Therefore, being part of an international community is right up my street.
I also get my specialist music from the Internet. Without globalisation and its characteristics, some genres (afrobeat) would have failed to gain popularity. Which would have been such a shame!
So, in my opinion, the pros of technology definitely outweigh the cons.
Swanlake, how would you be able to ask such deep questions without the aid of technology, ie the internet? Are you telling us all to bugger off? We wouldn't be able to come back and tell you our conclusions if we threw our PCs out the window.
Come to think of it, wouldn't you miss the internet as a means to spread your ideology?
PS, how old are you anyway? An approximation will do, it doesn't have to be exact.
I'm being flippant, I know. I need to go and let off some steam in the real world.
I'm an escapist though. I frequently escape most forms of technology on a regular basis - daily walks, bike rides, hiking, yoga. Music would be the most difficult for me to give up. Television would be the easiest.
quote:Originally posted by ikja:Being someone who likes keeping up to date with current affairs and new world music releases, I think that the internet is one of the best inventions. All of that knowledge and material at your fingertips?! I cannot get enough of it. And now, the ability to discuss this knowledge with people across the global is absolutely fantastic!I grew up asking questions about how other people lived and why people were mean to each other. I had little interest in nature and playing games with other children (tbh). Therefore, being part of an international community is right up my street.I also get my specialist music from the Internet. Without globalisation and its characteristics, some genres (afrobeat) would have failed to gain popularity. Which would have been such a shame!So, in my opinion, the pros of technology definitely outweigh the cons.
Well said! I fail to see how using technology in moderation is a form of interfering with your mind, when in fact it can be highly educational. What is the 'real reality' by the way?
The area I was in was such that you couldn't watch TV unless you had cable or dish anyway so that plenty of locals did without it (especially those I knew who were off the grid). This was the year I ended up joining a Dungeons & Dragons campaign, and it was different from watching TV in that there were no commercials, our minds were engaged rather than passively watching (and I was inspired to read a lot of history, philosophy, and other topics), we bonded with each other during and after the game (whereas bonding through TV shows typically takes place after the show is over), and it was more exciting as we knew there was random events generated and our choices mattered (no script was going to make everything okay after). It was a lot of fun, but after I turned 18 I went back to TV (and many of those I gamed with were eager to show many movies and shows). Of course stories have bonded people together for thousands of years, be they myth, legend, or TV shows.
I didn't listen to much music as I didn't have anything to listen to and the radios weren't much better than the TV with reception a very iffy thing (and so many commercials and/or repeating the same song ad nauseum, or otherwise not interesting to me). However, plenty of others in the same boat sang songs themselves, and this was when I had a haunting experience bonding with Dianic witches while chanting a chorus line with so many on a beach while a few played instruments or sang the song. Which is similar to people bonding in music in other ways, including in many churches (this was also the time I went through that experience with the Russian Orthodox), by the way.
Of course song and dance is wired into our species. Even things like rap battles of today have a long and ancient history as in flyting (there was a similar ancient Chinese practice but I forget the name of it), and I'm pretty sure I read of an ancient god that specialized in such satirical and insulting verses.
As this was mostly the year 2000 things like FB, cell phones (which were present but not to the level of today, and I certainly didn't have one at 17 while out in the sticks) weren't an issue. Though I think it's noteworthy that even plenty of people off the grid who generated their own power (and I knew one family that SOLD surplus energy to the power companies!) and lived a very rural and often hippie like lifestyle still had ways to hook up to the internet as it was just too useful (and a lot cheaper back then than phone). Heck, even many "technomads" did so, including one who lived on a motorcycle (who would just go camping at various sites for as long as he could before moving to another camping site).
And these days even many of the homeless in the USA have phones with internet and even a surprising number of laptops.
I suppose one could say that those who built their own home with cob, produced or otherwise gathered (foraging, hunting, fishing, etc) their own food, etc have more of an idea of what goes into their survival but not knowing doesn't make it any less real (even if I did see a video of some woman who said she was going to get her meat elsewhere after she ordered it and as a joke they made it sound as if a cow was shot and then cut up with a chainsaw for her meat, did she really think there was an alternate source of beef? ). People have been buying their food from others for thousands of years now, and even in the stone age days I'm sure many didn't get food for one reason or another but did something else for their tribe instead.
During this time I generally used a stove and also a microwave. I also used fire pits and cob ovens, but I don't see how that's particularly different (other than electricity). I rode in cars (didn't have a license despite being 17 due to my technically being a runaway) as well as rode on horses but they work about the same. Nothing romantic about riding a horse pooping everywhere that may not appreciate being ridden and also making the rider smelly and sore (and gods help the one dumb enough to let a horse ridden a lot get into water to drink without dismounting!) though there is something to be said about not being dependent on fossil fuels (I'd prefer a bicycle myself--which can be used so often now thanks to technology paving roads and bike paths as well as mass producing bikes). And I'd think traveling a long ways (especially by plane) would broaden one's horizons, too.
That all said, I have thought it would be good to "flush out" a lot of garbage from my life by living the life of a hermit with little use of technology for another year. I'm sure many things would occur to me that otherwise wouldn't (just as some things would NOT occur to me that otherwise would) but I haven't figured out how to build my life back up after doing that, and that's the reality. Of course there are days I'm wistful about the freedom I had as little more than a kid when I could carry everything I own on my person and just move wherever I desired, but so far the price would not be worth it to return to that--especially as what I have now is worth the loss of freedom I once enjoyed.
I don't even have a cell phone as it is.
Now.. If I was living on the beach, out in Jamaica or something.. And, had a bunch of people playing steel drums around me all the time.. And, any type of live reggae that might appear.. I think I would be pretty set, to be honest.
❤️ Reggae!
Are you a Jah Cure fan? (If not, go seek him!) lol
I don't watch tv anymore and don't have Facebook anymore either.. I feel like I just like lay there thinking a lot,
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