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T O P I C R E V I E WSunChildI've heard of Shills as hired operatives to direct conversations away from the truth, especially in the conspiracy arena. I have always been aware that GLP (Godlike productions) and ATS (Above top secret) are barometer forums to measure the conspiracy movements consciousness and their owners are not on our side. I stay away from those forums, never like the vibe there, though I sometimes read threads there to see what the general conspiracy opinion is after a news story or something. Anyway, I heard from a few good people that those forums are riddled with Shills and just recently, one made a mega blooper, or perhaps it could have been intentional. Whatever the case may be, it is very interesting. I'll paste the now censored blooper-post below in a few minutes. SunChildLocation of official Agency folderNone NPRCTeam ContactSheila N******CHECKLISTDo any of the respondents display the urge to supply information that could be helpful to your mission?Do the respondents appear hostile to your attempts to steer the discussion?Have you made a personal chart taking care to note who appear to be the “leaders” versus who appear to be the “followers”?Have you attempted to gauge the “temperature” of the forum’s users?In other words, the prevailing social psychology of the forum’s members?Have you been more successful with one or the other XStart methods that were demonstrated in N-7015A.DOC?Have more technical members (Computer Programmers, Administrators, or Moderators) of the forum deduced or accused you of hiding behind a proxy?Would you gain more trust and/or credibility if you were to use one of the Agency’s allotted “HOME” pools? (most often needed when handling EVTS that are more sensitive to the pop. of a specific locale but also location centered web sites such as FB or Patch)Has your PREDEV “persona” been successful or do you gauge that the users find you to be too obtrusive? Accusations of being “ever present” are.SunChildFull write up, here http://www.insanemedia.net/forum-shill-gets-busted-ats-and-glp-censor-n-7015a/2924 So, what to you make of this?SunChildIt was posted because they pasted what was on their clip board - perhaps they had a pre written post and copy pasted the wrong item. Or that it was no accident. BlackSeraphI think people have consistently heard of CIA and other intel having White Ops, Grey Ops, and Black Ops (the very nasty kind)...I have long suspected there being a fourth category: Purple Ops (psychic/PSI/astral/esoteric/ET Ops). It's the color that made sense to me and didn't strike me as a term that could exclusively be affiliated with White/Black/Grey Ops. Would this sort of thing fall under "Purple"?And I am absolutely convinced the Russians and most likely the Chinese, among other powers, likely have similar "departments"...(And why "Purple" and not some other color like Indigo or turquoise? Frankly, there was a scene in the anime film Akira where, when the character Tetsuo's psionic powers are growing and becoming uncontainable by the Japanese Military (in the film), the base intercoms announce "Situation Abnormal, Code Purple", on the English dubs anyways. So I adopted it in my theorizing).I'd say copy this thread and store it somewhere. I'm certain "Purple Ops" is something any power wouldn't want getting out. Given current events going on here on planet Earth, I'd say a little "paranoia" is justified.SunChildI am starting to think it's an elaborate hoax- a pretty decent one! I guess we will never truly knowRandallLooks like a hoax to me, but who knows?florence quote:Would you gain more trust and/or credibility if you were to use one of the Agency’s allotted “HOME” pools? (most often needed when handling EVTS that are more sensitive to the pop. of a specific locale but also location centered web sites such as FB or Patch)i mostly rationale away a lot of things like this thinking of what it achieves or can and the cost to do. because where do conspiracy theories end up? i don't think i heard of m/any being exposed. although that could be because some people are doing a good job. but, in the last few years i'm convinced that political party affiliates do spew out repetitively specific messages. i can't give an example but there was -just one- post i read somewhere which sounded off-key, in tone, like it had a very specific purpose to just hit out a message. i can't recall what it was but it doesn't matter as it convinced me enough. ever since then i've made an effort to argue on political threads and especially against wide-sweeping hegemonic ideas. just to undo some of the impact that some views can have on people otherwise apathetic or easily swayed by sound-bites. so, now that i do think it happens at a political level and maybe when you think of how networking sites can swiftly form an uprising, i think it's possible it could happen on this scale too. i quoted that paragraph because i think it's interesting that the cue to use home pools is turned outwards, like explaining to someone not privy to that kind of info. i thought that was a clue it was fake, like explaining something not necessary to someone involved but then after i thought it's the kind of note i would make myself in a lecture so that made me think it does sound real. RandallSome of the most prolific UFO experts are actually CIA operatives providing misinformation.RandallIncluding UFO authors!florencei think that would make a great subject for a film. has it been done? think have seen some documentaries citing ufo things as misdirections. but would really love to see all the behind the scenes of it imagined and lots of twists in the tail. then at the end there would be a real alien ufo hovering before shooting off. JovianHa! ...I had no idea this thread was about that thread at GLP...or that it had gained that much attention in the conpsiracy world. I had happened to read that thread that included that apparent glitch by an apparent cointelpro operative. If it is a legitimate gaffe, I'm glad it got exposed so widely, so people might know that stuff really does happen. I do from time to time sense that a thread is created with the intention of surreptitiously sensing the 'vibe' of the place. It is amusing to me, though, that TPTB might consider there to be any real "threats" with the goings on at GLP.I have a love/hate relationship with the place. I am currently "banned"... for complaining about the seemingly nonsensical moderation there, perhaps? I have no idea. They seem to like to keep you guessing, never quite knowing the rules. It gives them power over you. Complaining there is of course pointless. I get drawn in to respond in anger to the idiotic rednecks there--perhaps I'm falling right into their "agenda." It is interesting to witness in myself. Anyway, I had never considered that the actual site owners might have compromised agendas. ATS pretty immediately raised flags for me, as being quite "off" somehow...but GLP seemed okay...at least tolerable, since it is irrisistible as the place for up-to-the-minute conspiracy info, and other interesting things; as well as obnoxiously sharing your own views. Hmm.(...Just checked. The original thread at GLP is still active.)Hmm. Interesting to read the responses at that link you gave. I didn't realize so many other seemingly sane people were banned from GLP.RandallInteresting.Voix_de_la_Mer quote:Originally posted by Randall:Interesting.indeed!------------------Don’t judge each day by the harvest you reap but by the seeds that you plant- Robert Louis Stevenson(whatever you feed will grow)RandallBump!MoonMystic Definitely stands to reason. I wondered about this on every site tbh. As well radio/podcasts. Even the actual hosts can pique my radar, often it's the guests AND callers.We get so many wild cards. I quit those mentioned sites so long ago. The last one, I look at for quick random curiosity. They either are riddled with shills orpeople there are fruit loops! I feel like life is a shell game, checking inside for a nut vs a pretend nut - empty case.
I have always been aware that GLP (Godlike productions) and ATS (Above top secret) are barometer forums to measure the conspiracy movements consciousness and their owners are not on our side. I stay away from those forums, never like the vibe there, though I sometimes read threads there to see what the general conspiracy opinion is after a news story or something.
Anyway, I heard from a few good people that those forums are riddled with Shills and just recently, one made a mega blooper, or perhaps it could have been intentional. Whatever the case may be, it is very interesting.
I'll paste the now censored blooper-post below in a few minutes.
CHECKLIST
Do any of the respondents display the urge to supply information that could be helpful to your mission?
Do the respondents appear hostile to your attempts to steer the discussion?
Have you made a personal chart taking care to note who appear to be the “leaders” versus who appear to be the “followers”?
Have you attempted to gauge the “temperature” of the forum’s users?
In other words, the prevailing social psychology of the forum’s members?
Have you been more successful with one or the other XStart methods that were demonstrated in N-7015A.DOC?
Have more technical members (Computer Programmers, Administrators, or Moderators) of the forum deduced or accused you of hiding behind a proxy?
Would you gain more trust and/or credibility if you were to use one of the Agency’s allotted “HOME” pools? (most often needed when handling EVTS that are more sensitive to the pop. of a specific locale but also location centered web sites such as FB or Patch)
Has your PREDEV “persona” been successful or do you gauge that the users find you to be too obtrusive? Accusations of being “ever present” are.
So, what to you make of this?
I have long suspected there being a fourth category: Purple Ops (psychic/PSI/astral/esoteric/ET Ops). It's the color that made sense to me and didn't strike me as a term that could exclusively be affiliated with White/Black/Grey Ops. Would this sort of thing fall under "Purple"?
And I am absolutely convinced the Russians and most likely the Chinese, among other powers, likely have similar "departments"...
(And why "Purple" and not some other color like Indigo or turquoise? Frankly, there was a scene in the anime film Akira where, when the character Tetsuo's psionic powers are growing and becoming uncontainable by the Japanese Military (in the film), the base intercoms announce "Situation Abnormal, Code Purple", on the English dubs anyways. So I adopted it in my theorizing).
I'd say copy this thread and store it somewhere. I'm certain "Purple Ops" is something any power wouldn't want getting out. Given current events going on here on planet Earth, I'd say a little "paranoia" is justified.
quote:Would you gain more trust and/or credibility if you were to use one of the Agency’s allotted “HOME” pools? (most often needed when handling EVTS that are more sensitive to the pop. of a specific locale but also location centered web sites such as FB or Patch)
i mostly rationale away a lot of things like this thinking of what it achieves or can and the cost to do. because where do conspiracy theories end up? i don't think i heard of m/any being exposed. although that could be because some people are doing a good job.
but, in the last few years i'm convinced that political party affiliates do spew out repetitively specific messages. i can't give an example but there was -just one- post i read somewhere which sounded off-key, in tone, like it had a very specific purpose to just hit out a message. i can't recall what it was but it doesn't matter as it convinced me enough. ever since then i've made an effort to argue on political threads and especially against wide-sweeping hegemonic ideas. just to undo some of the impact that some views can have on people otherwise apathetic or easily swayed by sound-bites.
so, now that i do think it happens at a political level and maybe when you think of how networking sites can swiftly form an uprising, i think it's possible it could happen on this scale too.
i quoted that paragraph because i think it's interesting that the cue to use home pools is turned outwards, like explaining to someone not privy to that kind of info. i thought that was a clue it was fake, like explaining something not necessary to someone involved but then after i thought it's the kind of note i would make myself in a lecture so that made me think it does sound real.
then at the end there would be a real alien ufo hovering before shooting off.
I do from time to time sense that a thread is created with the intention of surreptitiously sensing the 'vibe' of the place. It is amusing to me, though, that TPTB might consider there to be any real "threats" with the goings on at GLP.
I have a love/hate relationship with the place. I am currently "banned"... for complaining about the seemingly nonsensical moderation there, perhaps? I have no idea. They seem to like to keep you guessing, never quite knowing the rules. It gives them power over you. Complaining there is of course pointless. I get drawn in to respond in anger to the idiotic rednecks there--perhaps I'm falling right into their "agenda." It is interesting to witness in myself.
Anyway, I had never considered that the actual site owners might have compromised agendas. ATS pretty immediately raised flags for me, as being quite "off" somehow...but GLP seemed okay...at least tolerable, since it is irrisistible as the place for up-to-the-minute conspiracy info, and other interesting things; as well as obnoxiously sharing your own views. Hmm.
(...Just checked. The original thread at GLP is still active.)
Hmm. Interesting to read the responses at that link you gave. I didn't realize so many other seemingly sane people were banned from GLP.
quote:Originally posted by Randall:Interesting.
indeed!
------------------Don’t judge each day by the harvest you reap but by the seeds that you plant- Robert Louis Stevenson(whatever you feed will grow)
I feel like life is a shell game, checking inside for a nut vs a pretend nut - empty case.
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