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starflower
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posted October 08, 2003 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok someone please help me out here with these Sag's in my life.
First theres a Sag boss - critical one minute, effusive the next.
Next the biggie, a potential Sag lover. I say potential because its impossible to pin him down. Is it normal for Sag to be impulsive, to be reluctant to make plans? Or is he just not interested.
Sometimes he is wonderful, all over me, very attentive, other times its like he's off shooting his arrows with the elves in never never land.

He never wants to plan ahead, very spontaneous.Normal?

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hooked
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posted October 08, 2003 12:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
what sign are you starflower?

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starflower
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posted October 08, 2003 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there
Aqu Sun/Leo Asc/Cancer Moon

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lioneye68
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posted October 08, 2003 01:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, Starflower, that's typical Sag. They don't like to commit to anything, because they may not be into it when the time comes, and they want to be free to choose at that time.
Hey, that's a far cry better than those who commit to all sorts of things, but never follow through. AT least they don't give you BS commitments (well, not usually...ok, they do that too my mom's a Saggie)

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starflower
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posted October 08, 2003 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well thanks Lioneye..i kinda feel somewhat better now. My Cancer Moon is all over the place just now, time building up to the Full Moon this weekend I guess.

Next challenge is for me, learn to be spontaneous along with him.

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starflower
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posted October 08, 2003 01:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well thanks Lioneye..i kinda feel somewhat better now. My Cancer Moon is all over the place just now, time building up to the Full Moon this weekend I guess.

Next challenge is for me, learn to be spontaneous along with him.

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Motherkonfessor
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posted October 08, 2003 02:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Starflower......

I have been surrounded by Sags my whole life..and at work (for some reason they gravitate to the hospitality industry)

They sound right on to the descriptions of their sign...and sometimes with a Sag man it is hard to tell if they are interested because they have a rather scattered consciousness.. they are very earnest, however.
I just wanted to tell you two things...first, they sometimes don't know what comes falling out of their mouth. It will seem tactless and mean.. its not their fault, really- just a tendency of the sign. They will be honest, just not very polite about it. With your Cancer moon, it might upset your sensitive emotional nature..and if you have a Leo Asc, it might make you withdraw from them...
Perhaps your Aquarian detachment will help balance out dealing with a scattered Sag.

Good luck...hope to hear good news in the future.

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sthenri
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posted October 08, 2003 06:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Cancer Moon too and I know Sags are hard to live around. Once in a while I get my feelings hurt BIG time and I don't forget with my 8th house moon.

After time you will find out that they really do care, it takes a while but they do, they just hide it well. Plus they are a little into looks so make sure not to get too frumpy, it's easy for me to do that.

Natasha

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purplezen
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posted October 08, 2003 06:39 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fear not starflower, my best ever love relationship was with a sag. He too was very impulsive, but that was part of the fun

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bauschd
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posted October 08, 2003 08:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah, they say stupid things, but I don't think you should let them go! Give them hell! They shouldn't have said it! I reackon Sags should learn constantly about human behaviour and tact. I don't mean to go over board, just tell them how they made you feel, and I believe they won't do it again, but they will probably do something similar, hang on, I think I'm confusing my gem sun and sag asc, which I guess could be easy. I do totally agree that Sags NEVER mean to hurt. Their just kind of stupid

Dean.

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lioneye68
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posted October 08, 2003 08:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, now, I wouldn't go so far as to say they're dumb. A bit clueless, and perhaps missing an edit function in their brain sometimes, but I've NEVER known a dumb Saggitarius.
I've known Saggies who look for their purse while it's hanging off their shoulder, or their glasses while they're sitting atop their head. Heck, I even knew a Saggie who drove a car through someones' living room. (nobody was hurt, just the house and the car) But none of them were dumb by any stretch of the imagination.
They just don't have enough room in their heads for the little things sometimes. Oftentimes. Ah, but I love 'em anyway.

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thesag
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posted October 09, 2003 02:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HiHo! A Sag here and a female at that! Can you believe I do not have any Sag stories. I have no close or semi-close sag buddies!

So, I can't relate at all. I have a virgo moon and an Aries Asc maybe that has something to do with it.

I know this about me. I lose glasses, keys, clothing, you name it, I'll lose it.
I am not tactless with those I know. I think I'm more so with those I don't know and may never see again.
If I don't care (Care, as in, don't care to be around them) then I will be blunt
but I try to never hurt anyone.

I don't think Sag's are critical by nature, maybe your boss has a virgo moon. I can be very critical at times.

Sag's (me anyway) are very restless!! This contributes to the sense of impulsivness. BUT, we're nice and fun and great friends.

If you want to know if he's interested just ask. We tend to tell the truth, alot!

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bauschd
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posted October 09, 2003 02:37 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes, indeed, I didn't mean any offence, but see, long ago I realised that their is a difference between Smart and Intelligent. Smart has Streets and The Right Thing To Do (so to speak), etc. Intelligence has Brainy, Freaky Genius, "Intelectual", Can Read etc. I've always sort of put Sags in the second category mostly, even though they are very fun, I do believe they have a lot of intelligence, just sometimes they ain't so smart, like that girl driving in the house! Classic!

Dean.

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jason from oz
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posted October 09, 2003 05:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear thesag,
I am sag with virg moon, see if my neg traits are similar to yours-
mine would have to be judgemental, not able to do what i want as i always second guess myself and end up doing what others want or when alone do what i think i need rather than want to, and cant really be myself around others and say things to try and impress thyem without realising it and end up feeling like people never really seek me out as i dont have anything original to offer, but on my own I'm very indivualistic and people seem intrigued by that, but when we get together they seem bored, when I'm comfortable I entertain them with funny stories but generally end up getting stuck in minutae with general conv and usually say things that dont make them feel confidant, i lack the libra "know the right to say gene", also i worry ,am health anxious, swing from one extreme to the other,am too restless to relax ,and never stick something out thinking it will take to long and years later find myself in the same position over and over through my hastiness. The worst thing is that i feel and always have ,that i'm constantly in my mind to the extent that i could tell you everything I've eaten in the last month probably and people never really get into my life as I'M too proccupied with my minds routine. I long to be a person who is with people constasntly (after all i'm a sag sun in the 7th house) but can be himself, i tend to feel so comprimised when with others that i spend 99% on my own, well mentally anyhow.
Oh gees are you as screwy as me !!!!!!!!!!
J

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pidaua
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posted October 09, 2003 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We don't like to commit to ANYTHING? Ummm, that is a total general statement.

I think it is more like, we want to know exactly what we are getting into before we commit. All too often people just jump into things and then have to pay later.

That is not to say that us Saggies haven't had our fair share of impulsive commitments where we had to learn the hard way about being patient. That is something we can learn from a good Virgo friend.

For the record, I am a sag female with an aries moon and virgo rising. My brother is a sag with a scorp moon and pisces rising. Both of our parents have cancer moons, which makes them more prone to sensitivity and hurt feelings from our arrows.

In any case, I would have to say that yes, we can be very harsh, spastic, fun, heartbreaking, afraid of getting close, and yet, there is nothing we wouldn't do for a friend or family member.

My brother was difficult for his Scorp wife to tie down. They had been best friends since they met in the 8th grade and didn't start dating until his second year of college. She was like him in that she loved sports, camping, working out, hiking and traveling.

You will never catch one of us Archer babies if all you do it sit. We need constant bantering, stimulation, CONVERSATION. When we say something stupid "TELL US!!!!" The worse thing you can do is keep in in, because we have to have things out in the open. That is our nature, because we can be totally scatterbrained, we need to keep things where we can see them. LOL... That is also why we are so brutally honest. It is hard as hell to keep lies straight when you are always on the run.

Now, I would think that an Aqua girl could understand a Saggie a bit more, but I think your Cancer moon might be making the emotional part hard. My Aries moon does make me a bit more emotional we well, especially this Aries moon tonight.


As far as the physical. I can totally understand where your Sag is coming from. Wow, it is so hard to explain this part of us. Sometimes I can be so incredibly touchy feely with my guy, then I am lost in my own world and I am not affectionate. The guy I have been with for a while is pretty cool about it. It's taken years for us to get to this point, and we still fight. Two nights ago he said I was being a total weirdo and was rebuffing all his moves. He was right, I was feeling wimpy from my cold and from stress. Then....I did something so un-Saggie, I cried. He never really sees me cry, but I did and he wiped away my tears.

Anyway, give us a chance. Yeah, we are weird, but so are Aquarians, that is why we get along so well. You probably stopped him in his tracks with your electricity and now he's wondering what to do. So when we freak, we get close and run.....get close and run..LOL...luckily, we trip, we fall, and we come back.

You're boss sounds kind of like a bear. I would take him or her to the side and tell them how you feel. That the roller coaster is just not acceptable. They will understand and appreciate your honesty.


Okay, I have to run...and run...LOL

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bauschd
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posted October 09, 2003 11:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm so sorry I said Sags are stupid, I completely take it back.

BTW, I just find the coincidences in this thread interesting:

thesag Sag sun, Virgo moon, Aries rising
jason Sag sun, Virgo moon, ? rising
pidaua Sag sun, Aries moon, Virgo rising
me Gem sun, Virgo moon, Sag rising

One thing I've noticed though is the "back-stabing". A Sag best-freind of mine did it to me with my then GF and I did it to a Libran best-friend (and am still his ex, but don't speak to him). Do you guys experience this? I haven't met any other Sages, but I once had a Sag pen-pal who stopped writing to me after I asked this. I'm just curious...

Dean.

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starflower
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posted October 10, 2003 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starflower     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey thanks so much for your replies, most of them really are making a lot of sense in describing how this guy is!

Heres the story,we have been kind of friends but there have been some kisses etc of a definitely non platonic nature.

Anyway a few weeks ago he asked me out on a date, I genuinely couldnt make it. Couple of weeks pass and then last week I asked him if he would like to get together this week. He said yes, and he would come back to me to fix a day/time etc.

He hasnt even mentioned it again!! He has been his usual friendly self with me, but nothing about making the date. So this is why I'm confused.Its almost like he has completely forgotten the conversation ever happened.

I think hes totally adorable by the way, but somewhat frustrating!

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sthenri
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posted October 10, 2003 07:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HI, I would take the bull by the horns and ask him out, Sag's are not assertive as you think and he is probably a shy care bear underneath. Men are not as good as fixing dates as women think, they do have other tings to do. He will appreciate you setting it up for him if you wants to go.
With your Cancer moon you maybe the receptive one to dates but in this case and in all cases I have found with Cancer moons, they found their mates by being a little more assertive than usual, and more assertive than their mates.

I was not very assertive about fixing up dates until my Libra now, and then after one date I let him know I was available and then called him and dropped by instead of the other way around. He really took to that and was relieved. I would never wait on a call or wait on a date because what happens is that he may get afraid to make a move for fear of being too aggressive and back off. Then he is so sensitive he sees you not saying anything as a rejection and mopes.

Sags and Libras are very sensitive that way and require some push, tell your Cancer Moon you are showing concern and caring and that's very sexy to a man. Make or Offer a small gift with your sweetest smile and say "I've been looking forward to being alone with you..."

Natasha

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pidaua
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posted October 11, 2003 01:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Dean,

Backstabbing and Saggies? Well, I think it has more to do with our inability to keep our mouths shut and our pathologic need to tell the truth, no matter how it hurts. I have learned to become more diplomatic and just observe versus having to blurt things out.

I agree with Natasha about Sag dudes and most males not being as "clear" about setting a date and time for things, but you may have to really just do it for him. Say to him "Hey, let's go out on Friday. Pick me up at 8pm".

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LittleCat
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posted October 11, 2003 06:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Giving a fixed date and time to meet a SAG? That's the worst thing you can do. I am Sag. Don't do that.

Sags love nature. Why about inviting him to a nice walk in the forest?

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JustAmanda
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posted October 20, 2003 08:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustAmanda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
funny that this thread started about an Aquarius dating a Sag and thinking that the Sag was not easy to get along with because of being hard to read...I've had a relationship with an Aquarius male and I am a Sag female, and feel the exact opposite of what the original question was about...

I found my Aquarius friend to be VERY uncooperative at times, it was HIS way or NO way. He lacked any kind of spontanity and was rather boring. He was very routine oriented, and hated any kind of change. He was standoffish, not affectionate and would rather slit his wrist than pay anyone a compliment, and he NEVER admitted if he was wrong about anything.

Me on the other hand, a Sag woman and very proud it, am smart AND intelligent. I am spontaneous and make friends with almost all that I meet. Once you are my aquantice/friend, you have a loyal friend in me. I am loyal, should have been a Leo, for I will be your friend to the end, and will defend your honor if the situation arises. The only thing that truly pushes my buttons is just total ignorance. When people do not stop and think about their actions towards other people, that just irritates me to death. This world is made up of all kinds of people and not just me...therefore, kindness should be universal. Love don't slander. And when people become ignorant towards others, that is the last straw with me, and unfortunately my thoughts/actions and words can become somewhat ruthless and sometimes contrary to what I originally "preach"..but I am only human... Overall I find myself to be a wonderful friend and mate to those around me.
Just my 2 cents

and I'm not conceited..just convinced..hehehe

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posted October 20, 2003 10:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
IMHO BOTH Aquarius and Sags can be hard to deal with. And I know Sags love to flirt and are hard to get to commit. I know some Aquarians can be the same. Heehee so the question is who is the lesser of the two commitment phobes. Well I bet that starflowers moon in cancer helps her overcome that flighty sun sign. The best way to keep a Sag is to let them be free, then they won't feel restrained and calm down. That's just what I think. And I am young and still learning so please, don't really take too much love advice from moi!

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Catnap
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posted October 31, 2003 12:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Starflower
I can comment on your Sag boss, because I have one too. My boss changes direction like a flag in the wind, and it used to frustrate the heck out of me. He is a gregarious and fun person socially, and being buddy buddy and upfront with him works quite well. It can be fun at times. However, because he wants to be buddies with everyone else at work, he will tell people exactly what they want to hear to avoid conflict. If you are not at the top of the political tree, you will lose out becuase he will side with those "above" and you will inevitably lose out, despite being told you have his support. Don't get me wrong, he is a fun and generous guy, but when he swings, I had to make sure I was covered. Once I understood that aspect of his personality, I made sure that important stuff that could come back to me later on was confirmed via email, and that everything I do I can explain /back up. In other words,cover your backside, protect yourself, and also have a bit of a laugh with him every now and then. Most importantly, do not give him any excuse at all to be critical of you and your work!! Conversely, being buddies with him is useful when you want to get your own way, he can't help himself, because he hates conflict! Warning. don't be too buddy buddy,(he is your boss, after all, lol), keep your Aquarian detachment handy. Hope this helps. I am not saying that all Sag bosses are like this, I am only talking about my own personal experience with one. Also, having a Cancer moon helps me pick up his moods quite easily, so tune into your moon and you should have no problems at all in being prepared.
I have an Aqua Sun/Taurus Asc/Cancer Moon

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posted October 31, 2003 02:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From what I have read. Sag's tend to run hot and cold. On one minute off the next.
They have the decency to NOT commit to something or someone right out. Knowing full well that they will change their minds. Aquarians are simular but the reasons are different. Aquarians just don't want to be smoothered by emotional garbage and don't
like drama. There's always bigger things to be concerned with.

On the other hand....... I know a wise old lady who is a sag. She is social, care free
loves parties and always brings her guitar along. Married three times and had numerous love affairs. She told me that
you could never pin down a sag because they love freely and easily but never deeply. BUT somewhere down the line someone will come along that will knock the socks off the Sag and they will never be the same. Meaning once a Sag in on that hook. It's hooked. Usually wont happen till way later in life.
She at 65 years of life had finally found the "ONE" who made her fall in deep. Changed her for life.

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pidaua
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posted October 31, 2003 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Redwood,

That is so true and so beautiful.

~Pidaua

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