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posted January 01, 2004 01:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Which influences indicates a self-sabotaging compulsion to watch for?

.gloria

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posted January 02, 2004 02:33 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmm. I'd say Oppositions within the big three, ie sun moon and ascendant often get expressed in self defeating actions. Just because in order to serve one influencial body, you do stuff that is anathema to the opposing body, right? Saturn to sun squares and opps, or a busy 12th house might display self-undoing tendancies as well.

Interesting question, Gloria. You're full of those, aren't you? LOL.

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Ariesrocks!
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posted January 02, 2004 03:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Keef Richards has Sun opposition Saturn, and Venus square pluto in scorpio. That's a clue considering the type he is

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posted January 02, 2004 01:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lioneye:

1) As far as the example you gave me, in opposition, I only have Moon/Saturn.

2) What about Moon opposition Jupiter? Would that account for sabotage?

3) Here's something interesting. What do you think of this in a relationship. Both people have Ascendant Opp Moon in their Natal's, AND in their Composite. How would the Natal influence differ from the Composite? :

Aries Rocks:

Which squares are most important in sabotage? :

Thanks very much,

.gloria

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Ariesrocks!
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posted January 02, 2004 02:00 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Moon opposition ascendant is a very good aspect to have in composite. Actually one of the best! so don't worry about that one.
The squares...well I think Mars square pluto and Moon square Mars and also Sun square Moon will be very difficult.
Moon square Neptune can probably be destructive also.

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lioneye68
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posted January 02, 2004 02:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Mmon oppose Jupiter? Well, Jupiter is such a benevolent influence that even when it's involved in negative aspects, it's still feels pretty good. But it can encourage over-indulgence and an overly optimistic mind-set (or in the case of the moon, overly optimistic emotions), which could certainly lead to a few rude awakenings when reality kicks you where it hurts. But that's not really self sabatage, it's mearly wishfull thinking right?

Moon oppose Saturn...now THAT could be real bugger. Saturn says "no" to everything it opposes or squares. But it's not really carried out by the person, more like by environmental circumstances, or outside influences beyond our control. That can lead to a dampening of spirits because you get the sense that nothing ever works out for you, or goes your way. That can be very discouraging, and cause a person to become depressed, and maybe feel like "Why bother?".

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posted January 02, 2004 02:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AriesRocks:

Moon Opp Ascendant is better than Moon Sextile Ascendant in Composite?

As far as Squares go, I only have the Moon Square Mars.

So I guess in total for sabotage, I have Moon Square Mars and Moon Opp Saturn, which yes Lioneye, it DOES make me feel like "what's the use" sometimes, which is horrible especially when I lack encouragement in my private and home life.

I've had to deal with my fear of success all my life, still struggling with it... AH! What's the use!

.gloria

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Ariesrocks!
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posted January 02, 2004 03:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Yes dahhhling, well I think it's better than the sextile. Because the opposition is almost the same as a seventh house composite which is great!

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posted January 02, 2004 04:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What's an example of a 7th hs. Composite?

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Zerep
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posted January 02, 2004 06:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What about sun square(or opposed) mars? pluto?

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Ariesrocks!
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posted January 03, 2004 07:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I have sun opposition pluto I'm perfectly normal......
*ahum*

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posted January 03, 2004 08:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aries Rocks:

What's an example of a "7th hs. Composite"?

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posted January 03, 2004 08:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Well, I know that when the moon is in the seventh both partners feel very connected with eachother. They want to be together A LOT. They also care deeply for eachother and tend to worry more about how the other one is doing and so on. They just feel lots of love&understanding, and that they belong together. It's a great aspect to have.

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Zerep
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posted January 03, 2004 09:20 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hehe me too Ariesrocks! I have my sun opposed pluto & squared my mars & I'm fine too. But you never know... just an example

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posted January 03, 2004 04:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
AriesRocks!!! I'M DOOMED!!

The guy I like is hanging out with someone with both Composite Moon Opp Ascendant AND Composite Moon in 7th hs.

He and I have Moon Sextile Ascendant and Moon in 11th hs.

Care to editorialize?

.gloria

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