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LighTgrEEn
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posted June 24, 2004 12:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My sun is in Taurus and my venus is in Gemini. I think this is really confusing for me because I think these two sign are different relationship wise and I don't think I am like the flirty gemini(even tough my venus is gemini). Relationship wise I am more like taurus then gemini, so I guess I don't understand my gemini in venus placement.

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LibraSparkle
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posted June 24, 2004 01:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi there Ligthgreen

Here's what I've found about Venus in Gemini:


If you have Venus in Gemini in your birth chart, when you go into "flirt mode" you tend to "act to attract" in some of the following ways:

Sweet-talker. You have a way with words. You're very good at flirting and teasing, and can charm or cajole anyone with that "silver tongue". You might also be tempted to be devious and "speak with forked tongue" (as the Native American Indians used to say). You are adept at adapting your style to suit the seduction.

Witty. When interested, you can turn into a quick-witted and clever conversationalist, and you love witty banter and the inviting innuendo. Double meanings and puns are the tricks of your trade when in "flirt mode". You are perceptive of details and notice the response you are getting, so you can swiftly switch style to sustain interest.

Raconteur. You can relate endless stories about people or events or experiences to arouse the interest of one you desire.

Writer. You like to write notes, poems, or long letters to the object of your desire. You may even send love notes by fax, or a romantic email greeting card. Internet chat rooms may also suit your style of flirting with written communcations.

Phone-mate. You love long romantic phone calls, or Internet meeting-by-modem (and may even enjoy "phone sex").

Reader. You love to share or give books, and to discuss books or ideas. You could shamelessly flirt in a book store or library or lecture hall.

http://www.astrologyzine.com/flirting-with-venus-in-gemini.shtml

The old stereotype is that Venus here is indicative of fickleness in love. If the lot of marriage is here or Gemini is in the 7th house, then this may be the case because Gemini is bicorporeal. This bicorporeal nature tends to multiply the instances of whatever signification is expressed. In any case, variety in social life and romantic interests is usually supported, which also means that these individuals have a harder time settling down. These natives think that smart is sexy. If also angular, there is usually an interest in music and poetry.

In a diurnal chart, there is a greater attraction to public life. Connections between people are not as deep but tend to be more numerous. This is because the heat and dryness of the day creates distinctions in relationships asserting appropriate boundaries. Also, the heat creates higher levels of activity in social circumstances.

In a nocturnal chart, the relationships you have with other people are not as superficial or politically based. The cool and moistness of night lowers activity and creates connections, so your social circle will tend to be smaller and more intimate. These natives settle down with more ease than their diurnal counterparts.
http://www.horoscope-x-files.com/horoscope/gemini-venus.htm

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LighTgrEEn
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posted June 24, 2004 02:49 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The problem is that I do not think I am like the desription of venus in gemini(eventough it says that is what I am). So this is where my opinions about astrology "being false" comes in. (If you know what I mean). I totally don't think I am a "player" when it comes to love. can this be because I have sun in taurus? Any opinions or comments on this???

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LibraSparkle
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posted June 24, 2004 12:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't think these discriptions are calling you a "player". If you look up my Venus in Leo, it will list different ways I might love, or seek out love. We all love, seek out love, and flirt to some degree.

If it doesn't fit, it doesn't fit. There are others here much more knowledgable than me when it comes to interpritation.

I do know that Venus in Leo suits me just fine. As does Libra (I have 5 plantets including the sun in Libra.) My moon is in Cancer, and this also suits my personality... as does Gemini Rising (I dare you to try to out talk me on the phone ). There are many many factors to be taken into consideration.

Did you do your natal chart at astro.com?

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posted June 24, 2004 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Light Green,
I'm readng your posts (all of them) and I've got to chuckle. Your worried about your venus in gemini. Don't you're on the wrong track I'll explain. First with your mars placement in Capricorn (mars is stronger) Mars acts out your sun sign (Taures right?) I think this is the best placement personally because mars doesn't react half cocked here, remember Capricorn is sure footed and all thier decisions are well thought out. Mars is exalted here. So its not going to let venus make that many mistakes. Promescuity is not a venus in Gemini problem, that belongs more to the signs that have a hard time controlling passion. What you will get with venus in Gemini is someone who will laugh at some of the things other signs can't help. Life is a game and should be experienced and enjoyed to the fullest. Venus here is kind of naive, your mind just doesn't go there, thats something that will be learned as you go through life. This Venus is social, has many interests and can relate on many levels Its been called fickle and flighty but I think that is misunderstood. They're just not intense (barring any strong pluto/venus aspects) Key word here is communication (gemini) How many different ways can you communicate?

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LighTgrEEn
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posted June 24, 2004 05:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks lalalinda! Your explanation helped alot.

I do like to communicate(e-mail, phone, letters, and etc).

Also, I did my natal chart, but I don't know my birthtime so it is not exact.

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LibraSparkle
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posted June 24, 2004 06:52 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
So, Venus may not be in Gemini.

Can you find out your birthtime? At least as close as possible? I bet that might clear up a lot of confusion.

I'm glad Lalalinda posted. I'm in a litte over my head with this post , but I didn't want to leave you hanging. It can be frustrating to post something and wait forever for someone to reply.

Good luck, Lightgreen I'm sure if you stick around you will learn a lot from the long-timers here. I know I have, and I'm still learning.

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LighTgrEEn
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posted June 24, 2004 07:07 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My birthtime i don't know. I know it was sunrise. Maybe about 4, 5 0r 6 in teh morning. Does this help a little?

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LighTgrEEn
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posted July 22, 2004 10:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!

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posted July 22, 2004 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I doubt that the birth time would change Venus..... your ascendant, most definately.. even possibly Moon, but Venus? Naw.. highly unlikely.
Good luck!

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LighTgrEEn
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posted July 23, 2004 12:34 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yeah I was thinking the exact same thing.


But I am still wondering as to which sign my acsendent is. I am thinking it is either aries, taurus, or gemini because those were the ascendents during sunrise on my birthdate. From 4-6 AM.

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sthenri
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posted July 23, 2004 12:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LighTgr, it's nature's way of balancing us out, we are almost always given conflicting Sun's and Venus to balance out what we need in life according to estoteric astrology.

Sun in Taurus is steady and calm with boundaries, Venus in Aries is emotional and warm, both conflict but the Venus attracts something different than what the Sun is used to, offering the Sun a chance to grow and change.

Your Venus in Gemini is giving your Sun a different perspective in terms of your relationships, so you will attract people with a strong third house, we all learn lessons from our relationships.

I think you may be able to tell which ascendant you are, if you give the possibilities here it's easy for all of us to analyze.

Can you give what you think are the closest ascendants with the times you gave?

Thanks,
Natasha
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Gemini Nymph
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posted July 23, 2004 12:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Gemini in Venus, and do not really fit the life of the party, flirtatous stereotype of a Gemini Venus. I'm a good example of how Venus, which is a receptive planet, is easily influenced by other signs and placement. My Venus side is definitely Gemini at the core - communication is the number one priority in my relationships, and independence is numder two. Need for independence is heighten by it's placement in the 9th house, as is my need for varied and stimulating experiences. This doesn't mean I cheat - in fact I've never cheated, ever and find the idea distasteful. However, if I don't get to socialize and be active outside of my relationship (hang out with my friends or do other things *without* the boyfriend) I begin to feel sufficated, restless, bored and depressed. Very Geminian.

My Venus in Gemini's flighty, superficial character is kept in check by my Pisces moon in the 6th house (a rather serious placement for a sensitive, ruminating moon) and grounded by my fixed Aqua Mars (fortunately not in an ultra-serious position - 5th house - so I still love to have fun, even if it means by myself). I have serious problems with expressing my Venus side due to a nasty conjunction with my Saturn, too, so that sometimes I am less spontaneous and carefree as then my Gemini Venus would like to be. Also, I have a Sag Neptune in the 3rd house opp my Venus which causes me to be a bit unrealistic, daydreamy, idealistic and habitually noncommital about my relationships.

So while my Venus needs communication, independence and varied experience - all very typical of Gemini - over all it doesn't act isolated from the influnces of other planets in my chart.

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astro junkie
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posted July 23, 2004 04:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey Gemini Nymph -

So has this Gemini Venus transit made you feel like "branching out"?

I've had some confusion over my Asc because it's in Taurus at 29.48 degrees, but I never fit that, and then many people see me more of a Gemini Rising, but then that doesn't fit me either. NONE of the Risings do. But when you said that about your aspects to your Merc, I thought I'd look at mine. I have Merc Conj Neptune, so there you go.

And I have a Moon in Cancer in the 3rd House, as well as my 3rd House being ruled by the Moon.

I just kind of got a glimpse of some similarities.

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LighTgrEEn
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posted July 24, 2004 05:06 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HEY THERE!!!! If you have a venus in gemini read below and tell me what you think. I finally found an article that describes my venus in gemini correctly. I am a taurus sun, by the way.

"Venus in Gemini people will try to win over the object of their affection with witty conversation, displaying just how much they "know", and demonstrating their diverse interests. These lovers are playful—some might even call them a tease. They are hard to pin down, and they resist relationships that promise to become too "comfortable". Even those with their Sun in Taurus or Cancer, whose outward demeanor may suggest some reserve and caution, will want their relationships to be stimulating and full of conversation with Venus in Gemini."

the last sentence says it all, and I AGREE 100%.

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Gemini Nymph
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posted July 24, 2004 12:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Astro, I'm not sure what you mean by "branching out," but along the lines of seeming not to fit aspects in our charts:

I can be hard for others to pin down what sign(s) I am - most people are surprised that I am a Gemini. Due to a prepondence of mutable signs, I can "appear" in many different ways, given the situation. I get mistaken for nearly every sign except Aries or Leo, because I'm too reserved and generally not pushy (although I do have my bossy moments ). I really see my exterior persona being a kaleidoscope of my Gemini Sun and Mercury (which are conjunct), the "light/compassionate side" of my Pisces Moon, plus Virgo Rising, Aqua Mars and Libra Uranus (which is in 1st house and trine my Mars and Sun/Merc). Playing behind the scenes (what people don't see readily) are the "dark/secretive side" of my moon, my Gemini Venus/Saturn conjunct oppo to a Sag Nep/Jup conjuct (talk about a tangled knot! In fact, I think that's what they should call this specific aspect: TANGLED KNOT - opposition of two conjunction of mutable signs. Causes unrelenting contradiction and confusion. LOL). And behind that mess, a Virgo Pluto (my subconscious forces) that is a T-square with my Moon and Sun/Merc.

So when people "get to know" me they usually 1) feel their first impressions were wrong and 2) find I'm constantly surprising them with facets of myself they wouldn't have expected. All very entertaining, but it leaves me feeling like no one ever really knows me. Again, this is the plight of a dominatly mutable chart, since mutable signs are easily influenced and lack direction. In a chart with more fixed or cardinal signs, mutable signs usually follow in suit to those influences, but in my chart, they are the dominant influence (they've got everyone else outnumbered) and often lack clear direction.

So my personality tends to lack clear form and decisive boundaries, and I don't feel so much that I "branch out" but "spill out" or take on this weird, shifting, kaleidoscope/nebulous state of existence, if you know what I mean. If it weren't for my Saturn plaement and my grand trine (ironically with Uranus), I probably would be seriously unstable. Oh wait, I am seriously unstable...nevermind...lol.

It's taken a while for me to understand myself and my chart. At first, when I go nto studying my chart, I ddn't understand myself very well and I thought, "Wait, this is BS 0 I'm not like this." But as I studied astrology more, I began to realize how nothing in a chart is or can be static - everything is in dynamic relationships with everything else in the chart, and the key is seeing the "system" at work together and how each part plays its role. At least now I can say readily that the basics (planets/ASC/houses/aspects) when looked at as a system working does really represent me quite well - it's just I'm not easily broken down into neat three line paragraphs describing this or that side of myself. I doubt anyone else is either.

By the way Lightgreen - I can fit that description of Gemini Venus fairly well. Like I said before, I need communication in any relationship. If I don't feel I can talk to a person, there's no relationship. Period. And I'm chatty during intimate moments, and would rather talk and joke around rather than do romantic stuff like gaze longingly into each others' eyes. And I LOVE to tease. I do definitely avoid like the plague "normal" guys who just want a conventional relationship.

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