posted August 07, 2005 11:07 AM              

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I found this, and I thought I would share it, this is someone against using the asteroids in interpretation, and justifying their use only as a sort of politically correcting the patriarchial cosmic energy!

"Out of the ten primary influences in the chart, eight of them are male (Sun, Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune, Pluto) while only two of them are female (Moon and Venus). (I’m classifying Mercury as "male" because the mythological figure was a man, even though Mercury’s energy is entirely neutral, being equally "Masculine" and "Feminine." Likewise, although a strong case could be made that Neptune’s energy is more "receptive" and therefore "feminine," Neptune was a male god. And even though Pluto started out as a goddess–the crone figure with Persephone being the Maiden and Demeter being the mother–the best known form of them myth gave Pluto a sex change.) Adding the four asteroid goddesses in to the mix certainly helps balance out the masculine energy of the planets."

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posted August 07, 2005 11:37 AM              

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moon was the mother of them all. it was venus who made them all dance! right?

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posted August 08, 2005 11:16 PM            

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Urm, I'd have to disagree with one thing. I'd rather assume that Hecate would be the crone. And I've never heard of Pluto having a sex change, either.

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posted August 08, 2005 11:45 PM              

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Well, this is just one of those things that's widely open for debate. I prefer to call the moon and Venus "receptive" rather than look at them as feminine (this can get very confusing to novices if they try to listen to me LOL, as I think of Jupiter and Neptune as receptive too - and that follows no traditional delineation). Signs, too, I think more of polarity rather than gender.

I'm not comfortable either with classifing Pluto as the same polarity as say Mars or the Sun. Anyone with some astrology under their belt knows this planet works far more "unseen" and "passive aggressive" and this could incline Pluto to be more "feminine" if you so wish. I am OK with deeming it a malefic, if one insists, but it's not really as masculine as the name suggest. Pluto in the evolution of myth does undergo a sex change - he becomes Minerva. Interestingly Minerva in a goddess of wisdom, not the under world, and in astrolgy Minerva can represent the highest evolution of Pluto - Pluto's chaotic and profound power transformed by wisdom. This parallels Pluto's transformation of the individual as it rengenerates him/her into a new, refined and more highly evolved being. Not much has been written about this, since discernment on Pluto is still relatively new. Eleanor Buckwalter references a few sources in her article on Pluto singletons: http://www.astrologyclub.org/articles/singletons/pluto/pluto.htm

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posted August 09, 2005 03:15 AM              

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Pluto's sex change is referred to in Linda's Star Signs when she was describing the female Scorpio, she said, female scorpios have one secret wish, that they were not born males.

Maybe that's a reference to the Plutonian sex change...

Interesting stuff though

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