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Cardinalgal
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posted August 17, 2005 12:20 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi all,

I've posted the same question within a thread over on Soul Unions but thought I'd also ask here... what would Venus in Aquarius 08°19'47 11 retrograde mean in terms of how my partner expresses emotion/feelings etc. Doesn't take an expert to see that he's gonna have problems in that department but just wondered if someone could give me a more specific explanation.

Many thanks,
Sarah xx

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Mama Mia
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posted August 17, 2005 01:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Venus in Aqua and it can be a trip..I am real reserved and turned off real easy. When turned off I just kind of fade away..I approach things real slow and easy..and I need some space at first.. It is almost the same thing as a Aqua sun person..

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Cardinalgal
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posted August 17, 2005 02:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks MM - it really helps to get personal view points rather than reading text book explanations sometimes as you can see the way the individual feels about the aspect themselves. Is your Venus direct or retrograde? Still trying to understand the affect that the retrograde motion has on this placing.

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Mama Mia
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posted August 17, 2005 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmm don't know have to go check it out..

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 17, 2005 07:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Retrograde
Venus spends less time retrograde than any other planet—only forty days once every eighteen months. In a birth chart, Venus retrograde represents a set of personal goals and values which appear to go against the grain of natural forces and instincts. It is the symbol of ascetics, athletics and others who train, fight or redirect natural urges. It denotes the artist’s total commitment to art and the values and ideals she is attempting to show.
In a man’s chart Venus retrograde indicates a powerful focus on fulfilling a well-defined set of ideals and goals, often of a social-political, spiritual or athletic nature. Living up to his chosen ideals may become the central focus in life, and a man with Venus retrograde many need to exercise more sensitivity and delicacy when applying his ideals to others.
In a woman’s chart Venus retrograde suggest a life uncommon to most women. Such a woman often dares to break new ground, refusing to accept traditional female roles. As a result, women with Venus retrograde often find themselves amid emotional struggles and public controversy regarding their uncompromising quest for truth, justice and acceptance.


With Venus retrograde, relationships are taken very seriously, and even more so if Venus is a relationship significator (if it rules the seventh house, for example, or is found in the seventh house). There can be a tendency to limit opportunities to find love, even though—and because—love is so very important to the native. It is hard for the native to be objective when it comes to relationships and social affairs, and there is great sensitivity to ups and downs of partnership. Casual relationships are not considered very valuable to the Venus retrograde native, and relationships are rarely entered into lightly.

---With Venus retrograde in your natal chart, your concept of beauty is different, comes from a different place, than those around you. (Wear your underwear on your head; he'll dig it, though he won't say so.)


--If Venus is retrograde, it can affect how we show our emotions to other people. Our true emotions may be blocked and others might completely interpret us. We may seem as though we are cold or unloving, but it is merely the expression we can’t seem to figure out. It can also cause us to abuse gifts Venus would naturally give us, such as love or possessions.

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shop22much
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posted August 17, 2005 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shop22much     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aqua boy has a capricorn venus that is retrograde as well, i know for a fact the guy is very cautious when it comes to love, relationships, etc...its very hard for them to open up, express themselves, one time he told me he had deep emotions just had a hard time expressing them, or they dont come out right, my sister also has a retrograde in her venus, she was very shy growing up, but very cold especially towards men, it seemed like the more she liked them the more she'd push them away(she has a scorpio venus)....retrograde people surely are different from the norm,....i think these people mean what they say when they say it, if youre in their life, and they care a great deal, and open up to you, youre probably very special to them, they might not seem to ever open up, but when they do...its magical...and you feel very special to be brought into that.....to have someone who has a hard time opening up,...open up to you.....just MAKES YOU FEEL SO DAMN SPECIAL...we live in a world where people throw around words so quickly and easily, thats there something alluring about the subtle approach the retrograde people bring......be patient and good luck

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viper
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posted August 18, 2005 02:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have witnessed Venus in Aqua, in action. It's a placement, I have found to be very distant and aloof when it comes to emotional connectedness.

Although the individual wants to be part of a relationship and enjoys all the fun and good times when things are running smoothly, they can, as already commented on previously, turn off as quickly as they turn on.

I found that they don't like hearing about YOUR emmotions, feelings or what you may feel is missing or wrong in a relationship.

They go cold, it scares them I think, maybe because they deal with their concept of the emmotional part from a somewhat detached 'matter of fact' type of manner and cannot relate to anything other than things on that level.

It makes for a frustrating time if you happen to be more open to your emotions than they.

Something Venus in Aqua brings about is the love of friendship and to these individuals a close friend is often far more important than a lover.

They can go for months in a committed relationship without the need for any physical contact with their partner as to them the relationship is one they have built out of friendship and the sexual side of things is just an additional part of the relationship, not the whole.

Something else I have noticed with this placement, the sexual act itself is very unsensual. Almost formal in a sense. I have yet to meet one who is in any way experimental although they will happily talk and joke about being so amongst friends. Whereas in reality they have their own ideas of what is sensual or seductive and that is that. No matter what their partner may think!!

Well that's my take on it anyway ha ha

Being retrograde would, I imagine simply enhance this detatchment from the emmotional side of things. It is not that they do not have emmotions, for they do, it is more a case of not understanding that not everyone on the planet sees or feels things in the exact same way they do!!

An X g/f of mine has this placement, she also has north node, here which in a way doubles the issues as the south node is in Leo and in part some of her restraint and lack of enthusiasm toward certain things creates a somewhat snobbish behaviour in her. She at times can come across as if she refuses to be seen in public as anything other than regal, dignified and perfect.

Each to their own, I guess


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libra78
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posted August 18, 2005 04:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Anyone have any experiences with Venus in Aries in retrogade, and their effects? Please do share

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Cardinalgal
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posted August 18, 2005 05:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"If Venus is retrograde, it can affect how we show our emotions to other people. Our true emotions may be blocked and others might completely interpret us. We may seem as though we are cold or unloving, but it is merely the expression we can’t seem to figure out. It can also cause us to abuse gifts Venus would naturally give us, such as love or possessions"

My God that's my partner to a tee!!

Thanks so much to everyone who's contributed so far - it's really helped to clarify this influence and to make sense of it to me.

Love to all,
Sarah xx

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LILYGIRL
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posted August 18, 2005 01:25 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
" They can go for months in a committed relationship without the need for any physical contact with their partner as to them the relationship is one they have built out of friendship and the sexual side of things is just an additional part of the relationship, not the whole.

Something else I have noticed with this placement, the sexual act itself is very unsensual. Almost formal in a sense. I have yet to meet one who is in any way experimental although they will happily talk and joke about being so amongst friends. Whereas in reality they have their own ideas of what is sensual or seductive and that is that. No matter what their partner may think!!"

Damn. That is SO harsh. I hope I'not barking up the wrong tree with my Doc Friend. He has Aqua Venus/Sun Pisces and I find all of what you said an extreme frighteningly hideous turnoff. Run for the hills. Yuck Blech... Haha...

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proxieme
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posted August 18, 2005 01:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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They can go for months in a committed relationship without the need for any physical contact with their partner as to them the relationship is one they have built out of friendship and the sexual side of things is just an additional part of the relationship, not the whole.

Something else I have noticed with this placement, the sexual act itself is very unsensual. Almost formal in a sense. I have yet to meet one who is in any way experimental although they will happily talk and joke about being so amongst friends. Whereas in reality they have their own ideas of what is sensual or seductive and that is that. No matter what their partner may think!!


Harsh? Maybe.
True in my experience? Yes.

My husband (Aqua Sun/Taurus Moon/Scorp Asc/Cappie Merc/Aqua Venus/Pisces Mars) can go forever without even considering sex (at least the actual act rather than "sexy thoughts").
There are stretches of time when my demands for atleast-once-a-week-sex are met with, "Gah! I feel like a piece of meat! Can't we just cuddle and watch Deep Space Nine?
Then I can go toodle around with my Bug, maybe look up some car parts..."

And he's pure vanilla in the bedroom.
It's nice vanilla, like Breyers with the little dots of bean, but still vanilla.
I keep dragging out the cherries, whipcream, and chocolate sauce, but (as of yet) to no avail.
...Still...
There's an undercurrent of naughty sexiness just waiting just beneath the surface, afraid to come out.
Oh, yes, I will get it.
Just wait and see.
I'll get some candied walnuts in there yet.

(Bwa ha ha.)

(I'm a Pisces Sun/Aqua Moon/Scorp Asc/Pisces Merc/Taurean Venus/Leo Mars chick, btw.)

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