posted August 28, 2005 11:12 AM              

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What is exactly a stellium, is it a good or bad thing?

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posted August 28, 2005 11:51 AM            

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A stellium is a conjunction of three or more planets. The tighter the conjunction, and the more planets it involves, the more powerful the stellium is. It is a place in there chart where there is a lot of energy focused. The house in which it happens is therefore emphasized- the matters of that house. Also it emphasizes the sign that the stellium is in- though it can sometimes span two signs.

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posted August 28, 2005 11:53 AM            

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also, I got this from astrology.com:
One more complication: A Planetary member of a Stellium is subject to the influence of aspects to other Planets in the same Stellium, even if the Orb is too wide to normally include that Planet. This is called aspect by association.

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posted August 28, 2005 11:59 AM              

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HI sweetface

Ive a stellium in Scorp - sun, venus, merc,jupiter, neptune, so you could say I was very Scorpionic, especially as they are all in the 8th house (the house of SCorpio) - OUCH that sounds mighty.........challenging!!!!

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posted August 28, 2005 12:15 PM              

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Stelliums are like a lot things in astrology - it depends on how you chose to respond to it and use it. Stelliums are "energy pools" and depending on the chart they may or may not express themselves readily. In charts where a stellium is not bullied by other aspects or is in a comfy house, they express themselves readily adn often, for betetror worse. In cases where the stellium is afflicted, energy tends to collect there, and can cause a energy drain on the rest or the rest, making it harder for the native to use any of his/her chart energiy, OR it can buld up and "explode" irregularly, causing impulsive and erratic behavior int he native.

Either way, the native needs to learn how to live and work with this energy, because it is a force to be reckoned with. Because stelliums are powerful, they can dominate the native's life, acting out its own agenda and dragging the native in tow. The native has "own" their stellium, which takes study, discernment and practice, in order to use their stellium as they wish, rather than have their stellium use them.

This works similiarly for most aspect configurations actually, although normally stelliums, afflicted or not, are the easiest tolive to work with (or so it seems to me with my 3 distinct and rather uncooperative aspect configs LOL). Aspect configurations are mighty powerful tools - and like any tool, you need skill and experience to use them properly.

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posted August 28, 2005 12:37 PM              

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Ok, now I am confused!
I am not sure if I have a stellium or not. I thought if there were 3 or more planets in the same sign or house, it was classified as a stellium.
For instance, I have mars, pluto and saturn in the 5th, and only mars and pluto are conjunct. I have venus, uranus, neptune and jupiter in sagittatius, but uranus and venus are in the 6th house, and the rest are in the 7th...

So do I have a stellium by sign or house or what?

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posted August 28, 2005 01:27 PM            

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Gemini,
I'm pretty sure they need to be conjunct to make it a stellium, but I guess if the orb is wide then it can be a "loose" stellium, just less powerful than if it was a tight conjunction. For your venus, uranus, neptune and jupiter- it doesn't matter that they're not all in the same house- but are uranus and venus conjunct, and is one of them conjuct neptune or jupiter, and are those two conjunct? The degrees matter most- not the sign or the house, in determining whether or not you have this configuration.

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posted August 28, 2005 01:29 PM            

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can you go to astro.com--> to "personal portrait" and post the bit at the end that gives all the house placements and degrees?

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posted August 28, 2005 02:12 PM              

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oh, ok Whiterabbit, I get what you are saying now. Here is the info from Astro:

Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Capricorn 22°48'38 08 direct
Moon Taurus 20°38'15 12 direct
Mercury Capricorn 00°54'37 07 direct
Venus Sagittarius 15°24'02 06 direct
Mars Scorpio 01°22'27 05 direct
Jupiter Sagittarius 28°44'49 07 direct
Saturn Scorpio 14°55'04 05/6 direct
Saturn is technically near the end of house 5 and is interpreted in house 6.
Uranus Sagittarius 11°49'11 06 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 29°48'53 07 direct
Pluto Scorpio 01°59'56 05 direct
True Node Gemini 15°21'15 12 direct

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Gemini 26°31'22
2nd House Cancer 16°15'48
3rd House Leo 06°23'12
Imum Coeli Virgo 00°39'49
5th House Libra 03°25'24
6th House Scorpio 15°47'40
Descendant Sagittarius 26°31'22
8th House Capricorn 16°15'48
9th House Aquarius 06°23'12
Medium Coeli Pisces 00°39'49
11th House Aries 03°25'24
12th House Taurus 15°47'40

Major aspects
Sun Trine Moon 2°10
Sun Sextile Saturn 7°54
Moon Opposition Saturn 5°43
Mercury Sextile Mars 0°28
Mercury Conjunction Jupiter 2°10
Mercury Conjunction Neptune 1°06
Mercury Sextile Pluto 1°05
Mercury Opposition Ascendant 4°23
Venus Conjunction Uranus 3°35
Mars Sextile Jupiter 2°38
Mars Sextile Neptune 1°34
Mars Conjunction Pluto 0°37
Mars Trine Ascendant 4°51
Jupiter Conjunction Neptune 1°04
Jupiter Sextile Pluto 3°15
Jupiter Opposition Ascendant 2°13
Neptune Sextile Pluto 2°11
Neptune Opposition Ascendant 3°18
Pluto Trine Ascendant 5°29

Thanks!

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posted August 28, 2005 03:25 PM            

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I have a stellium in Capricorn in the 4th House. I don't really give much weight to it, considering the planets involved. Anyone born within two years or so of me, and who has a late Virgo to early Libra rising has the same thing.

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posted August 28, 2005 05:18 PM            

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hey geminirising,
it appears that you don't have a "real" stellium, but you do have a whole lot of powerful conjunctions (like Mars & Pluto- almost precise - I'd say there is a lot of "energy" concentrated there).
That Venus/Uranus conjunction must be pretty interesting.. hhm.
You have a very interesting, well-balanced chart.

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posted August 28, 2005 06:54 PM              

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Here's mine:

Sun Gem 26:37
Venus Gem 25:56
Mars Gem 27:42
Merc Gem 27:55
Moon Pis 27:07
Pl Vir 20:15
Ur Vir 25:11
Jup Vir 0:19
Sat Aries 23:28
NN Ari 16:00
Chi Ari 3:13
Nep Sco 24:20

Born June 17, 1968
appr: 21:17
Iasi, Romania

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posted August 28, 2005 08:42 PM              

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Is there a stellium in my chart?

Sun Taurus 08°51'09 04 direct
Moon Aquarius 13°06'31 02 direct
Mercury Taurus 29°18'38 05 direct
Venus Taurus 15°07'52 05 direct
Mars Cancer 00°00'21 07 direct
Jupiter Gemini 09°09'35 06 direct
Saturn Capricorn 13°53'46 01 stationary (R)
Uranus Capricorn 05°10'09 01 retrograde
Neptune Capricorn 12°19'19 01 retrograde
Pluto Scorpio 13°56'35 11 retrograde
True Node Pisces 02°24'14 02 direct

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Sagittarius 29°43'09
2nd House Aquarius 04°03'16
3rd House Pisces 11°11'34
Imum Coeli Aries 15°16'17
5th House Taurus 13°23'54
6th House Gemini 07°11'17
Descendant Gemini 29°43'09
8th House Leo 04°03'16
9th House Virgo 11°11'34
Medium Coeli Libra 15°16'17
11th House Scorpio 13°23'54
12th House Sagittarius 07°11'17

Major aspects
Sun Square Moon 4°15
Sun Conjunction Venus 6°17
Sun Trine Saturn 5°03
Sun Trine Uranus 3°41
Sun Trine Neptune 3°28
Sun Opposition Pluto 5°05
Moon Square Venus 2°01
Moon Trine Jupiter 3°57
Moon Square Pluto 0°50
Mercury Quincunx Ascendant 0°25
Venus Trine Saturn 1°14
Venus Trine Neptune 2°49
Venus Opposition Pluto 1°11
Mars Opposition Uranus 5°10
Mars Opposition Ascendant 0°17
Saturn Conjunction Neptune 1°34
Saturn Sextile Pluto 0°03
Uranus Conjunction Ascendant 5°27
Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°37

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posted August 28, 2005 11:13 PM              

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I"ve got an 8th house stellium..sun moon mars and merc in 8th,sun in gem rest in cancer..

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posted August 29, 2005 12:51 PM            

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sweet,

your Saturn, Uranus & Neptune could perhaps be considered a stellium, though the Uranus conjunction is pretty "loose". I feel like it's only really felt when there is a nice little bundle of planets with very close degrees. I mean, I'm sure your Saturn/Neptune conjunction, loosely conjunct Uranus is felt in some way- and they're all in the same sign- three outer planets in Capricorn, that means something. It's just that the stellium energy is described in a specific way- where the planets are so close they almost act like one integrated force. I have a Sun/Venus/Mercury stellium in Aquarius in the 4th house and I really would say that I feel like those three planets act as one, and they basically make the same aspects to other planets because they're so close, so they're this little Aquarian threesome opposing and dealing with the rest of my nutty chart. That's how I see a stellium. A lot of energy very specifically focused. Jupiter is also in Aqua, but farther away- and I really don't feel like it's part of the team. It does its own thing, has its own aspects.

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