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Lauren
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posted August 24, 2005 08:56 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mystic Gemini
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posted August 24, 2005 09:03 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Watch out for the mind games and manipulation. Stay away from him period.

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sue g
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posted August 24, 2005 09:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh Lauren

That guy I had the connection with who lied to me and let me down was Libra sun and Scorp Venus......yer man also has Leo moon which I often find will never climb down. put all these together and.........

Love


Sue xx

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cancerrg
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posted August 24, 2005 09:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
jealousy thats the most simple word to describe it .

and for that , you can't only blame his scorp .
may be , you won't like to believe but it has also a lot to do with his being a libra .


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At this point my bf kept telling me he's acting this way because he likes me..but I didn't wanna believe that. I still don't wanna believe that. I just wanted things to be the way they were when we were, or anyways when I THOUGHT, we were just friends.


What do you mean , you want things to be the way they were , they were never the way , you thought it to be , it changed with your bf's silent entry.


and about the convincing ability , libras are more convincing then scorps .
and in indian movie industry , majority of the great actors were /are libras . doesthat answer your apprehension about his being a good actor .

Though u didn't ask for any suggestion , i'll give u a free one , LEAVE HIM , not for whole life but unless he learns that he is wrong . let him learn this on his own .
or do u think u have any ways to help him out ?

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ariestiger
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posted August 24, 2005 09:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just be really honest with him about all the "you used to be a good friend" rubbish. Discuss whether or not he likes you, try to persuade him to open up and be honest, rationalize what he's feeling, because it's for everybody's benefit. My hunch is that he does "like" you. (Have you ever had any feelings for him?)

Make it clear what behaviour you expect from him, and don't veer from that path, try to be friends, make conditions and ensure that they are met! Libra with Scorp Venus ARE difficult, they can evade the point like nobody's business. sue g's already mentioned his Leo Moon - loads of people seem to be having trouble with Leo mooners, recently. They get high-and-mighty when they feel they're not being "appreciated" for whatever reason - work, love, etc. and feel the world owes them something.

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Hexxie
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posted August 25, 2005 01:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey lauren - i felt i just had to say something since i = sun libra, asc gemini, venus scorpio, but my moon is opposite in aquarius... oh and i'm a girl hehe

yeah i'm pretty sure he likes you! he didn't call cuz he was jealous that yer bf got you and he didn't. when you called him you probably got his hopes up again. his questions about your relationship with the bf were him trying to see where he stands with you. he was hoping you were calling to tell him you guys had broken up so he could move in lol.

in regards to the lie. there's nothing like a woman's intuition... what was your 1st reaction? this is one of those things you may never find out the truth to. if you truly like this 'friend' as a person, then you'll have to ignore it and let it go.

you definitely do need to set up some boundries with the guy. it's hard being friend's with someone who likes you! you may feel like an ass for doing that at 1st but it's for the best. he should know (but obviously dosen't) that you guys can still be "very good friends" but you have a boyfriend and he's the priority man in yer life. he needs to respect your relationship or he's not good friend material.

libras can be such little biatches when they're not center of attention, HEHE! i can say that cuz i am one

good luck m'dear! communication is key!

p.s. maybe all the issues with people who have leo moons has to do with transiting saturn being in leo!

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Lauren
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posted August 25, 2005 02:45 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks everyone

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Gemini Nymph
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posted August 25, 2005 08:40 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to hear about this.

If his Venus and/or Merc is conjunct Pluto in Scorpio, manipulative power games and lying will be a serious temptation, simply because he has this Plutonian power to do it. You wouldn't be able to convince him to be honest - strongly Plutonian people cannot, CANNOT be persaudeed against their will. We (I can talk, as I have Pluto rising) tend to have very strong influence on other people, and we can use that wisely and conscientiously, or selfishly and vainly. We have to make that choice - no one can make it for us. That's the thing about Scorpio/Pluto - it gives us a lot of power, and the choice how to use. If it's any consulation, Pluto's is a teacher - all of this is a lesson for the Plutonian. And if we've chosen unwisely, we *will* suffer for it. Pluto will see to that.

As for you, don't bother with second guessing this guy. He hurt you, and so he hasn't earn the benefit of the doubt. Strongly Plutonian people come acroos mainly in three ways :

1 - full of humility, honesty, integrity, and dignity

2 - kind of suspicious and shifty

3 - blatantly treacherous

If he's not an #1, avoid him. The blunt truth about us Plutonians is we are very tempted to think we can treat others unfairly and dishonestly, and get away with it, because we're inclined to think we're smarter and craftier than everyone else. If we don't learn humility, and adhere to it like a religion, we're our own worst enemy and bad news for everyone else. So just count your past friendship with him a lost cause and lesson in life, and move on. Let him learn his lessons in humility elsewhere (and Pluto will make sure he does). There's plenty of better and more honest people in the world to spend your time and energy on.

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posted August 25, 2005 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well said, gemini nymph

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cancerrg
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posted August 25, 2005 10:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
excellent gn !
thats quite honest .


i dont know if i can realate this with someone being just a scorp , i have said this earlier , i'll repeat here again , i know scorps play mindgames but i dont why but i have never actually been at the receving end though i have quite a few scorps friends or i am just too dumb to understand thier mind games ?

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cancerrg
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posted August 25, 2005 10:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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For about 30 min he was being normal and kidding, then out of the blue he tells me *this* on a very serious tone.

I am not surpised , a lot of guys do it this way , they are just preparing for the final words all this while .

you get achance to understand libras a better by this debacle .
forget and move on .

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Lauren
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posted August 25, 2005 01:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Loggerhead
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posted August 25, 2005 04:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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loads of people seem to be having trouble with Leo mooners, recently. They get high-and-mighty when they feel they're not being "appreciated" for whatever reason - work, love, etc. and feel the world owes them something.
Damn right! (Who are you so mad at? Not me, I hope?)

Seriously though, this rings bells for me. I used to know someone who had his Sun, Mercury, and Pluto all tightly conjunct in Leo. And he played mindgames like you wouldn't believe... He would behave just awful, but as soon as you drew away, he would feel "abandoned" and tell you that your friendship meant the world to him... I once told him, "I never knew you." And in a way it's true. But I'm not sure he was doing these things deliberately; I felt he might have been incredibly unaware of the havoc he was wreaking. (Or am I being naive here?) Bottomline, he was an emotionally abusive person.

I think Gemini Nymph has got it right again. I think we should just bring her all our questions and dilemmas, and she'll set us right. Way to go, Nymph!

Lauren, you have the urge to "fix" people? Lots of women do. That's what keeps those guys in business! If there were suddenly a shortage of women trying to fix a**h****, I have a feeling those guys would shape up real quick.

All this talking doesn't help you much, does it? Did you look at your synastry chart? Could you be in denial, and you really are feeling other things for him? (I hope not.)

As they say, May the force be with you...

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ariestiger
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posted August 25, 2005 05:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nah, nah, Loggerhead, I'm not mad at you. (I am virtually never mad at people on the Internet! - only in real life)

No, it's the great (and I was gonna say, soon-to-be-"late") Mr A. (surprise, surprise)Plus, I also know 3 other people with Moon in Leo. Lots and lots of pride.

*that's what keeps these guys in business* Sure does. Couldn't agree more. Some, though, have a scary ability to conceal the fact that they're a**h***s EXTREMELY well, from everyone around them EXCEPT their partner.

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Lauren
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posted August 25, 2005 07:22 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Loggerhead
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posted August 25, 2005 07:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Holy **** ! MY sexual frustrations? I think you fully deserve this ******* , and I hope you'll see lots more of each other, my little beech!

Oh, and do check you spelling. Of course, only once you've taken the carrot out of YOUR butt...

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Lauren
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posted August 25, 2005 08:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Do you like peanuts?

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Loggerhead
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posted August 25, 2005 08:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Poor thing...

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Lauren
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posted August 25, 2005 08:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
K guess not.. How bout capsicum?

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cancerrg
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posted August 26, 2005 03:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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it's just, I feel sooo bad, not answering if he calls or ditching him on purpose, and I also have this massive urge to *fix* people


you are being so much of a cancerian , lauren !

hope that fix thing isn't the in scorp way.

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Lauren
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posted August 26, 2005 09:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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Lauren
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posted August 26, 2005 09:04 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
and lol what's the Scorp way?

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