posted November 03, 2006 12:05 AM              

I wonder what the transits look like in the coming week and I am sure they point towards a VERY important event (Nov. 7 for one) in the countries history. these elections coming up will be some of the most important in this countries short history.

does the natal chart explain the people as a whole as one collective within the country at all? that sounds odd, yes.

lets see if the NC helps us understand the USA history, its current situation and maybe what we have to look foward to.
I still find it hard to believe the usa is equated with the sign of cancer..though cancers are cunning and decieving sometimes, the less evolved at least.

posted November 03, 2006 05:24 AM            

the obsession with food and obesity issues, the societal need to be comfortable and have your own "home", the country's strong focus on family structure and issues(i include childbearing/abuse, teen pregnancy and marriage in this..."family structure")...and of course, american mens' love of full breasted women

idk if that last can be fully proven but you get my drift

posted November 03, 2006 10:38 AM              

unless you mean france acts more like a leo. cause you did say USA strikes you more as a gemini. so maybe thats what you mean. though I think some countries have multiple birthdays..or they change over the course of time

As for the USA, does cancer describe its current state? That is something I just wonder to myself. I really don't want to get to much into politics as to rile up others. But I think we are all aware of some of the acts that have been passed (trying to pass them silently of course): including the enactment of maritial law, where bush now has the right deploy troops on his own people.

electronic voting is becoming more prevelent. But there are No paper trails..think a few years ago was a mess? there is a possibility of more protests if this stuff goes astray..maybe. If worst comes to worst http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2006/10/1732834.php

you know:
1. peaceful protesters
2. instigators under the guise of protesters cause a "ruckus "
3. oh look! not so peaceful anymore protesters!
4. bam! silenced!

no s*** martial law has been around for ages but it is a very bizare time to enforce it, just a few days before election day. no national threat to be seen. mr. bush has been using 9/11 as an excuse ad nausea to scare us and give up our liberty for..safety.

lets look at this with some VAUGE terms within

"the President may employ the armed forces, including the National Guard in Federal service, to restore PUBLIC ORDER and enforce the laws of the United States when, as a result of a natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or INCIDENT, or OTHER CONDITION in any State or possession of the United States, the President determines that domestic violence has occurred to such an extent that the constituted authorities of the State or possession are incapable of ("refuse" or "fail" in) maintaining PUBLIC ORDER, "in order to suppress, in any State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or CONSPIRACY."

-incident or other condition: HOW VAUGE. could include anything!
-threat against Public order: like peaceful protests against rigged voting in favor of republicans? this is bush after all who says
-"if you aren't for us your against us" terrorist mentality
conspiracy - vauge

okay sorry I have gone off in a tangent.

posted November 03, 2006 10:55 AM              

Pluto, as it moves through Sagittarius, is crossing the Ascendant of the chart, reflecting a profound transformation on many levels. This aspect has never occurred before in America's history, and therefore it is of the greatest importance. Most likely to be affected is the country's own image of itself, reflected not only in how America presents itself to other nations, but in the myths, dreams, ideals and social expectations which are expressed at home.

posted November 03, 2006 01:03 PM            

We eat too much. We are no joke when it comes to food. HAHAHAHAA

Also...President Bush's Cancer Sun is conjunct the USA's Cancer Sun.

I also believe that USA has an Aquarius Moon due to the many inventors that have existed here in USA as well as how we are high in technology,computer.....including the richest person in the world is here in the USA and made his wealth in a computer software business. Bill Gates in Microsoft.

posted November 03, 2006 01:11 PM              

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"WHATEVER the soul longs for, WILL be attained by the spirit"-Khalil Gibran

posted November 03, 2006 07:05 PM            

9th house (conj MC) nep in virgo indicates a very critical spirituality tied with the direction of the country. Combine this with sag ac. Interesting to note chart ruler in 7th. Need to seek religious partners or maybe imposition of religious ideals/philsophy. Also interesting how all the other stuff is in the 7th as well. Very charming, dominating and radical. Unstable relations with others - ura conj DC

I also find it interesting how merc is retro in 8th and opp pluto in 2nd/cap - deep self-analysis where ideas of the country are sought from within but has to be balanced with a need for power maybe or an overwhelming need to gain power over money

cap 2nd house with plu - power and value for money and the corporation

chiron in aries in 4th - a hurtful past that hurts itself caused maybe by the need to rebirth and its values related to cap, ie money etc

aqu moon - collective emotions and freedoms communicated to all.

posted November 03, 2006 07:55 PM            

American cliches such as "Mom and apple pie". "house with white picket fences" are part of our national conscience. Our national obsession with big boobs...

Also, America's official need to take care of the whole world, which is the official reason for going into all those countries and make things right for them. Very "motherly."

I also believe that America has Gemini rising:

The Twins. America has a light and a dark side. It has a white and black dichotomy. It says one thing and does another. Gemini is the planet of communication, so our medias are dominating the world. American movies, in general, are not too deep, but rather adventurous, frivolous, flights-of-imagination types of movies.

posted November 04, 2006 02:37 PM            

9/11. It occured after a configuration of Saturn in Gemini opposite Pluto in Sagg. In the US chart, the symbolism of what happened makes perfect sense ONLY in a Gemini rising chart. The first house (which represents the body) in Gemini (which was represented by the Twin Towers) was struck by flying arrows (the planes) thrown by the Archer and Foreigner Sagg from the 7th house (the house of the Other, the opposition, the open enemy). Pluto was in the 7th house and the attack was very Plutonian. Pluto works in the underground and then surfaces in a deadly fashion. The first house had Saturn, which in a way also represents... Karma. I'll quit right there.

posted November 05, 2006 12:19 AM            

another thing..religious doesn't necessarily mean believer in organized religion

in dictionary, religious means believing in higher power or divine order

in that sense, I am very religious because I believe in higher power and divine order in that I believe in God......I am pantheist which means one who believes that god is in all that all is god. To me, god is all things in existence or nature. my religious beliefs are mainly Neopaganism,New Age,and Unitarian Universalism. Reincarnation,pastlives,and karma are part of my belief system.

As you see, I am a political liberal. The conservative politics make me sick. I don't like religion and state combined. That's President Bush and the neocons have been doing.

Honestly, my practicing Astrology helped me believe in God more because I feel that there is a divine order in Astrology ...heck..even the planets are named after divine figures in ancient religion which we call mythology now.

Interestingly, Pan is the Greek God of nature.

posted November 05, 2006 02:02 AM              

I think wikpedia is a good source for learning about each country and degree of religious beliefs in each country.