posted August 27, 2004 12:41 AM              

It seems that the area of our lives corresponding to the house where Chiron is placed in our charts is the source of a constant pain. The Saturn placement, in comparison, would well signify the difficulties which one have to overcome through a hard work before reaching a final result, usualy acompanied with much disappointment and pain but you end up in a good place after the hard Saturnian work.

but with Chiron - the pain seems to never end..or heal in that matter..its like something you have to accept after all no matter how much you try to overcome it. "The house holding Chiron seems to reflect the individual's tragedies or unfulfilled longings"

posted August 27, 2004 01:40 AM              

ya right. my chiron is in the 9th house and my foreign travle practically seems to remain a life long dream. so is my higher education which has had 3 years of pain.

posted August 27, 2004 01:50 AM              

here again i have trouble with education as it is 'broken'. and it never seems to come back to me. infact lately i have started thinking that i'll remian an undergraduate (12th grade) all my life as no doors for education seem to be open. i have the funds, but its just not happening.
i used to have harsh speech. but in the above areas i have 'learnt my lessons' and am ready to take over.

posted August 27, 2004 02:03 AM            

I wonder about these broad, frankly wierd definitions.
She says~ "Oh, look... he has a diseased face!"
He says ~ 'Why yes, it is diseased, isn't it?"
She says~ "Yes, he must have Saturn in the second house."
He says ~ "Why yes, of course!"

posted September 04, 2004 12:43 PM              

Everything went wrong for me, until I left the country, travel is ruled by Jupiter. Out of the country I found what I needed, and the education I received at that school was tremendous. Until I came back to this country and had to get another degree. I was very down about this for a long time, until I realized that after I received the new degree no one cared about anything but my skills. By that time I had new friends who looked up to me and admired me for what I had accomplished.

What a ride that was! I supported myself through two degrees, and divorced twice due to my husband's irritation at my insistence on education. Remember that life is an obstacle course, and instead of focusing on the obstacle, leap over it, as if it doesn't exist.

With your Chiron in the 9th you must be positive in the face of absolute denial. If you receive a poor grade, refuse to accept it, refuse to accept any indications that you are cursed in education because you are not. This is just fate testing you. Your optimistic nature doesn't know how to handle the setbacks but they will fall.

Eventually you may even teach others, like I do. I still offer workshops if another person doesn't know what to do. I teach instead of putting others down. You will find that many are very critical and hard on you and others who do not live up to their expectations, you will be able to take that experience and help others later who will help you in life, and teach you even more.

Do not stop learning as it's a life long process, but do not let anyone criticize or hold you back emotionally. We do the best we can with what we have, and intelligence is measured my resourcefullness, and willingless to learn.
In other words optimism is necessary for learning. Your goal in life will be to keep yours going, the solution is to do this for other people and encourage them in their work. They will remember you, and return the favor. Once the 9th house is explored your friends will always be a source of incredible joy and strength.

I have been thrown out of classes, because I was told I couldn't pay attention or was deficient in some way, in those same subjects I now do very well and teach others. So much for teachers. Teachers do not hold the answers to everything, the answers are in the knowledge itself.

lalalinda, that sounds like Chiron saying you are responsible for others, more than yourself.

If your Saturn is unaspected that could be a factor. Mine is unaspected in the 5th. Chiron seems to be more of a factor for me for that reason.

Chiron in the 4th here, I have longings for a different home, faraway, India? China?

posted September 04, 2004 10:22 PM              

Chiron in the second house....perhaps you have a feeling of never having enough even if you have much more then the people around you have. Maybe you always dream about that luxurous house with beautiful decoration and you may even have an image of what it would look like but the dream simply always seems to far to reach. The other people may envy you for all that you`ve got yet you simply don`t seem to enjoy it.

another take on Chiron in the second house could be a guilt over having too much while the image of hundreds of starving people in Africa (for example) makes you feel that throwing leftovers after dinner is a sin. In that case you may seem to feel guilty over your luxurous posessions, and not been able to fully enjoy them. You may even ocasionaly give them away to the needy people.

and last but not least - Chiron in the 2nd may makes one feel unworthy of too much attention and care. You may dusguise it by asserting yourself agressivly but deep inside you crumble down with fear at the sight of the slightest rejection. A very low self-esteem, possibly inherited in childwood travma.

These are only some examples not based on anything I know about you and I know next to nothing. How do you feel Chiron?
It seems that Saturn put us thru obstacles in life while Chiron feels like something we have been born with - an inherited life-long wound. I hope that doesnt come out to pesimistic

posted November 03, 2006 02:54 PM              

And I couldn't see myself doing anything but college and putting myself through it but lately I've been really noticing how hard it is for me. I, for some reason that I can't seem to figure out, keep on getting the worst grades and the worst luck with just about everything I've done in college so far. I've been in college for a year and a half and I can't figure out why I've been doing so horribly this last year.

posted November 04, 2006 06:41 PM              

I have aspects that I'd THINK would put me in a place of power or in the public eye.
Sun conj MC
Sun, Mars, and Mercury in the 10th
Leo rising
Saturn opp MC

Turns out Chiron is also in my 10th, conj. my Mercury.

I hate being in management positions. I get mad stage jitters and stutter a lot. I'm in the Publishing Industry so I can communicate via online and print, instead of through constant oral communication.