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clockworkrose
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posted August 11, 2007 05:43 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was just wandering if any of you have any experience with Venus-Pluto aspects in synastry? Particularly the conjunction, square or opposition.

Recently I met a guy who I had a really intense attraction to. It was honestly from the second I saw him. When our eyes met, I felt this churning in my stomach, and it made my heart race. it was more intense than just butterflies. we kept staring at eachother all night. of course, being the astro-nut I am, I managed to get his birthdate later on. and I found out that we have a Venus opposition Pluto aspect. (his Venus, my Pluto)

Did any of you feel this strong, instant attraction with Venus-Pluto interaspects? Its not the same as Venus-Uranus, which to me seems more electric, more "hey there you sexy thing" lol... its more.... unnerving, unsettling almost. I've never felt this way before right when I met someone; he hit me right in the gut. I'm guessing thats Venus-Pluto... but his Saturn and South Node are also conjunct my Sun, so I dunno. any thoughts are greatly appreciated!

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Xodian
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posted August 11, 2007 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well actually according to me and my Sweets' sysnasty chart, supposably our relationship hits deeper then just a Pluto-Venus connection.

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Umair's Pluto conjunct Angie's Moon:


Angie's emotional responses to Umair are very intense. If Umair is physically attractive to Angie, then the attractive power of Umair over Angie is extremely powerful. However, the attraction tends to have a love/hate quality to it, and you feel drawn to each other, but also wary and distrustful of each other. It is likely that you feel both drawn to each other and repulsed by each other at the same time! The emotional response to each other is intense and complex, and the ultimate outcome of this deep, complex emotional tie is difficult to predict, but one thing is certain: this is not a lukewarm relationship and you 'get under each other's skin', evoking intense feelings from each other. Angie can easily become obsessed with Umair!


Ummmmm... yeah Lol!


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clockworkrose
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posted August 11, 2007 06:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok, thats kind of off topic....

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libraschoice7
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posted August 11, 2007 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This aspect seems to be the one I respond to the most, other than Sun/Mars or Venus square Mars...I think because of all the Pluto and Mars aspects I have in my natal chart I need something intense! An attraction I can really sink my teeth into lol! Yes the square, Conjunction, or opposition can be quite compelling and very consuming. But I will say this kind of attraction is difficult to get away from especially if you have other intense aspects that follow with it. Or have someones Pluto in your 1st, 7th, 8th or even 12th house.

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Diandra23
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posted August 11, 2007 06:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi

I found this about that specific aspect.Hope it helps!
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/001933.html
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum10/HTML/002063.html
http://www.nodeorama.com/viewtopic.php?id=2874

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Xodian
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posted August 11, 2007 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Xodian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
The point I was trying to make was simple:

As you can see, the moon hits the deeper core of a person's preferable nature. Venus more reflects the astetic preference. So just rule out the moon and add in the pluto in the mix and you'll kinda get an idea as to the intensity of the attraction in question .

Edit: Dia came up with better help Lol!

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clockworkrose
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posted August 11, 2007 06:19 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey libraschoice. this is the first Venus-Pluto aspect I've experienced; very intense! I like intensity in my relationships as well.... I have Pluto conjunct my Scorpio ASC. It seems like strong Saturn, Uranus, and Pluto aspects really get my attention.

thanks diandra.

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GeminiLover75
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posted August 12, 2007 03:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have the trine with my bf, and that in itself is intense (and was so upon first meeting) - let alone having a harsh aspect!

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kate_julia
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posted August 12, 2007 04:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My venus trines my partners pluto in synastry as well as our composite having pluto opposite venus.

So to add to the discussion i have to say that it is definatly what it is cut out to be. It would be impossible to break the bond we have no matter what happens. Its a very loving deep attraction on both behaves i believe. Ever since we met it has been unreal.. i think pluto/venus relationships are waaay beyond anything superficial.

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GeminiLover75
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posted August 12, 2007 04:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree about the attraction and the bond. We have the trine in composite also.

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posted August 12, 2007 06:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CoralFrequency     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pluto does not usually affect you, if you also have this aspect in natal.

I've said this before.. I had generational Pluto opposite my Venus with everyone in my year level at school, and some people at university at the moment. I am not by any means attracted to all of these people.

I was only romantically attached to one guy, but he also had Mars on my Venus.. Thus he had Mars opp Pluto in his own chart.. so in some ways we were similar..

Pluto aspects depend a lot on the rest of the chart. Many people were fleetingly attracted to me in school, but that's typical of high school age anyway.. I didn't feel anything romantic for anyone except this guy. However, even with him.. it died eventually. When trust dies, it all dies for me, so I lost respect as time went on.

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jkxx
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posted August 12, 2007 06:43 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Intense is right!

I haven't dealt with the opposition personally but have with the sextile (and so has a close friend of mine). All I can say is once it gets into you, watch out! It'll probably work great for a working relationship but these aspects are also incredibly difficult to shake off in case you are trying to let go of someone.

It might be a good idea to pull up a composite here and see if there's any Venus/Pluto action going on there. And also whether the composite Venus or Pluto make any aspects to the opposite planet in your individual charts. If they do, expect things to get serious.

Either way, good luck

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Dulce Luna
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posted August 12, 2007 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
We have the semi-sextile and sesquiquadrate in synastry (both hard aspects) but it turns into the square in the composite chart. I agree with the common sentiment in the room. I also agree that the moon one would be stronger considering it is your core.

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alvarella777
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posted August 12, 2007 06:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am currently involved with a guy, not as a real "couple", but it is the most INTENSE mental and emotional affair I ever experienced (we have been physically together as well). It's his VENUS conj. my PLUTO (and several other tense conjunctions in our synastry).

Power, control, fear and obsession DO play a major part here. It is totally intense, very confusing as well. It seems we can't let go from each other, at least not mentally/psychologically - even though letting go would be the reasonable thing to do.

The first meeting occurred under "unreal" or "coincidental" or maybe even ... "fated" circumstances, more than half a year ago. None of us could help "falling for the other", it confused and overwhelmed both of us, right at the beginning - that's at least my impression. Some "taboo" factors about all that as well. ("Impossible" or "forbidden" love.)

The strange thing is: Although I am PLUTO and it is his VENUS, I felt from the beginning that he'd be the "stronger" person here, that he'd hold control over everything, that is: controlling me, keeping me on arm's length in a way. I feel that I am under his spell very much - I don't feel plutonically powerful at all! Just the opposite seems to be true: He seems to be dictating the frequency of our meetings and "how far we go" momentarily.

Meanwhile we had some interesting/heavy conversations and I found out: He really seems to like me (I'm not sure whether he is really "obsessed" with me) - but he is SCARED in a way - he feels attracted by me and threatened at the same time. It seems that he does anything NOT to fall for me too deeply. And that makes me powerless, in a way. He seems to struggle to resist me, he even alluded/admitted this in a conversation we had. Lately he told me that he wanted to see me again, that he's thinking about me all the time - but that he's not sure whether it'd be "good" to come together once more, physically.

He said that he'd be afraid that if we got involved more deeply there'd be the possibility for "hurting each other" seriously. I don't know why he feels this way - and, again: All I can do is back off a little and show him/proof to him, that I am serious about him and have GOOD intentions only. I have to show some patience here, which is sometimes very hard for me to do. So he dis-empowers me/my Pluto in a way.

The longer we linger on, the more I get the feeling that all this is unavoidable and that it could be ... really complicated ... really strange and risky ... but: long lasting (maybe). In any case: TIME seems to be major factor here. From my point of view I can say: I won't give up too easily on this one! Of that I am sure.

Hope that this gives you an impression of the PLUTO/VENUS conjt. in synastry.


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clockworkrose
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posted August 12, 2007 02:37 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thanks alvarella. that was really insightful!

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It might be a good idea to pull up a composite here and see if there's any Venus/Pluto action going on there. And also whether the composite Venus or Pluto make any aspects to the opposite planet in your individual charts. If they do, expect things to get serious.

Well, we do have a Venus-Pluto opposition in the Composite chart, but its a bit wide (8'50 deg.) so I don't know if it counts.

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kate_julia
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posted August 12, 2007 07:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
[quote] Pluto does not usually affect you, if you also have this aspect in natal.
I've said this before.. I had generational Pluto opposite my Venus with everyone in my year level at school, and some people at university at the moment. I am not by any means attracted to all of these people.[quote]

I think this is a really good point to make. For eg. I have a natal sun trine pluto..therefore EVERYONE around my age has their pluto trine my sun... Everyone around your same year level has all of their outer planets (starting from jupiter) at a near degree..

So considering all this...would you say that the major aspects too look at when reading the synastry of similar aged couple would be the personal planets to the others personal planets?

I think the more of an age gap that there are between people the more significant the outer aspects to inner planets become..

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clockworkrose
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posted August 12, 2007 09:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hmmm, that makes sense.... this guy is 10 years older than me, and neither of us have a natal Venus-Pluto aspect. also its a pretty tight orb (2 deg.), so both of us definately feel it! I also think maybe some people are more accustumed and 'attuned' to Pluto's energy and maybe feel these aspects more strongly than others? Like strong Pluto/Scorpio in the natal chart.

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Diandra23
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posted August 13, 2007 08:10 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your post made me go and look upon ours:

in sinastry:

His Pluto falls on my 1st house./Mine falls on his 4th house.
my venus sextile his pluto/his venus semisextile my pluto)

we also have venus/mars skuare and venus/mars semiskuare;sun/mars skuare and sun/mars sextile.

Composite
venus8in 9th)semiskuare pluto(in 3rd)

Davidson
venus(in 1st) oposes pluto(in 3rd)

Natally
JOHN: venus semisextile pluto
ANA: venus sextile pluto

Recently i discovered some aspects that points me as becoming obssessive of him - this is kind of freaking me out cause i do see obssessive behaviour as a bad path to follow hihihi - but lookin on to all these posts,it seems that venus/pluto gives a lot of intensity:thats completelly true,as we also felt that right on the moment on ( and we just have less important aspects in sinastry)!

i also feel that force that pull us together,even if all is against it - does this is about Pluto?
its not a bad thing to feel this major bond that its hard to break,it can stick 2 people together many time - this is of course only great if the 2 persons are really in love and dont wanna be apart

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