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cancerrg
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posted February 20, 2007 09:02 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
staright to the question

why do i always feel a lot of pent up emotion in them (and this is coming from a cancerain )
are you as afraid as us that you might get hurt ?
and seriously do you all think they are real with their emotions especially in case of simple friendships or do they have some hidden agenda (am i just being suspicious )

inputs please !

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posted February 20, 2007 11:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I may be blunt, this may be a case of you having an agenda you are not fully aware of.

Cancers are in truth - and I say this in all love - emotion junkies. They live off of other people's emotions. It gives them motivation and focus and a sense of affirmation. This is especially true of Cancer men, but can be just as true for Cancer women. I'm not trying to pass judgement on Cancers. It's just how they are, whether they want to admit it (like my closest pal, a Cancer-Scorp-Sag, who'd sooner die than admit she needs that emotional "charge" from people) or not.

Aqua souls, like myself (Mars in Aqua, strong Uranus), tend to have very intense emotions, *when* we feel them. We aren't the 24/7/365 emotinal beings Cancers are, but when we feel emotion, it's strong and pure. And to an emotion junkie, someone with intense emotions like that can be very attractive. It's just Aqaua types aren't comfortable emoting in the way a Cancer would hope (so they could feed off our emotional energy). We remain detached from our emotions, sometime aware of them, sometimes not. Again I'm not trying to pass judgement - this is how Aqua souls are. Emotions aren't a priority to us as they are to a Cancer, who lives and dies by them.

So you can see the impasse here. We have emotional energy that Cancers want, but we're not giving it up. I know all the verses to this song, having dated enough Cancer types. This does no good for the Cancer to try to be paranoid or suspect the Aqua is doing something beyond being an Aqua. That just drives us away. Cancers need to accept that not everyone is the emotional being than they are, and likewise, not everyone is someone they can leach emotional energy off of. Just because someone feels an emotion, doesn't mean they need to emote it.

So yes you are intuiting emotions beneath the surface of an Aqua. But seeing an Aqua is such a very different creature from a Cancer I would suggest you avoid passing judgement on them, like saying their emotions are "pent up" (which inferred they need to be expressed), especially when it serves your own Cancer agenda. Besides, Aquas are very intuitive in their own way, and likely feel that you want to feed off that energy. That is something Aqua types find repulsive, so they're inclined to detach and withdraw emotionally from you even more.

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posted February 20, 2007 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GN

My god~~~How eloquently put!!!

My Aquarian colored Pisces soul thanks you...

Terri

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posted February 20, 2007 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AgeofAquarius     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*BRAVO*

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DayDreamer
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posted February 20, 2007 04:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
As an Aqua...yep we can be emotional.. At times I wish we were as good as Cancers in emoting cuz it can get frustrating not being able to do so. And obviously half the time we want to be left alone in our inner world. I guess it's a fear of getting too involved with one person, with that person latching on us, becoming dependent on us and not allowing us to be as free to socialize and dream as an Aquarius needs to live comfortably...Aquarians are people persons. If we invest too much emotionally in one person it can be draining because we're more than just about the emotions of one, or the emotions of our selves...we're electric, we need to think, we need to look to the future, we need to care about the whole...Its not being selfish...Trust me I try...its just too restraining at the individual level...When we're stuck at the individual level for too long it's like being in deep water for too long...we get deprived of air and suffocate. Thats when the lightening comes in...upheavel, things have to change, or Aquas start disappearing.

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posted February 20, 2007 04:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Makes me think of the POST A PIC of yourself thread in FFA, that recent Taurus' Cancer Sun/Cancer Moon/Aquarius Rising son. That's going to be an interesting boy to watch.

All the signs are emotional to some degree. Like GN said, though, it's not the constant 24 hour a day experience that it is for Cancers.

Do Aquas have a secret agenda? I don't think so from my experience. I think they aim for justice quite simply. It's about the only thing I see them get upset about.

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posted February 20, 2007 05:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
yeah an aqua with an hidden agenda?!!..Me too, I don’t think so.

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cancerrg
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posted February 21, 2007 01:32 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ah well that was a interesting post (as always ) GM !
but ofcourse i have certain reasons why i said ceratin things (but thats without being judgemental )

when i said pent up emotion , this is not something that i have felt with aquas only , this is something that i have always felt with scorps too .

when ever we are trying to hide things , we are somewere deep down well aware of the enormity of it(and thus our feeling of being differnet ) and thats why we are afraid to show it to people .
my friend circle basically consists of water and air people , majorly .
we, cancers have a hard shell ( a very well known fact )and the aquas have that ' i dont care attitude ' and again this attitude is something that they share with scorps .
deep down all the three are well aware of their emotions . ( infact, among air signs , i consider aquas to be the most truthful in everywhich way )

yes, agree that they are not willing to be as showy of thier emotions but i can't think of another expression other than 'pent up' .

shall be answetring soon , actually you have pushed me to think a bit harder

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posted February 22, 2007 11:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Actually, I knew an Aqua girl who had a better time expressing her emotions more than I do. She cried at graduation when I would not/could not.

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posted February 22, 2007 07:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All,
I think I must be an Aqua thats different from what is normally perceived.

I an Aquarian with Gemini rising am very emotional, dont like crying in company but does not stop me, always thought crying was sign of a weakness but got to realise its just I get embarrased.

I feel other peoples pain immediately, become sympathetic, empathetic or simply just pathetic, can cry at the drop of a hat for injustice but then my other side takes over and I want justice and will go to the ends of the earth to ensure who ever needs it gets this, I am however a bit slack when it comes to justice for me, prefer to take a back seat and think things through for a while, I am everything to everybody, someone who likes to please but says no thanks don't put yourself out for me, when the shoe is on the other foot.

Think I am just a conundrum, a human, perfect in every way and flawed in every way too.

I like myself, just wish I knew myself a bit better, does that make sense or have I totally lost the plot.

Aqua's in my case are not detached nor unemotional, we just hide it better and for longer.

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Annepisces
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posted May 03, 2007 01:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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MUSTANG
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posted May 03, 2007 02:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great post GM! As an aqua, I couldn't have written it better myself.


Acoustic:

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Do Aquas have a secret agenda? I don't think so from my experience. I think they aim for justice quite simply. It's about the only thing I see them get upset about.

I get soooo mad when I see injustice, whether it be towards me or someone I don't even know. If it could, my head would actually spin! I think it's because aquas are so idealistic. Injustice will shake us to the very core, because it is like a lie that encompasses the world.

Cancer: You mentioned you feel this from aquas and scorps, well, that is because we are the same in this regard, but it's expressed a bit differently. Aquas try to hide their intensity by talking a lot and acting cheerful; scorpios don't hide it. We're both intense and secretive, which is the reason I think their is so much friction between us - in my personal expererience, anyway.


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posted May 03, 2007 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bluegreyeyes     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thats when the lightening comes in...upheavel, things have to change, or Aquas start disappearing.>>>>

That's a great description.

Aquas fear being too comfortable... or being too "known"... all the aquas I know tend to dislike very rigid routines or situations, and usually will cause some sort of upheaval or "disappearance" in order to salvage their individuality, their mystery....

Being an aqua, I have just learned to recognize when I find myself getting "ansy" in relationships... I really have to explain it to the person otherwise I will self-sabotage the relationship by ditching the person or ******* them off so that they distance themselves voluntarily.

Aquas really are strange creatures.

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posted May 04, 2007 07:41 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah yes, the old disappearing act- bolting and launching out the door into utter seclusion until of course reemerging. I tend to "disappear" a lot too and avoid making contact with certain people...it makes me feel guilty about it when I actually run into them (or nearly so) because I just can't stand the pressure of attachment. I'm kind of aversive toward the tendencies of certain people who like to "psycho-analyze" out of sheer curiosity or people whom I have permitted to know me a bit more intimately than others. I just hate that whole "I get you" thing, where they act like they can just pigeon-hole you to certain criteria and predict your behavior through inference when it's just mere assumption (oh well, I like to feel unpredictable). I feel like I need to insulate my sense of mystery as well, except it's more like protecting my own essence and being. People who want to call me routinely or see me regularly can be emotinally draining. My response to feeling smothered is retreat. I express my sincerest apologies and would probably explain my true feelings to those poor souls I've had to circumvent. Although I can be social when I want to I tend to be a loner or accompanied by a close friend, and I must even withdraw from them from time to time for recharging purposes.
As for emotions, I think I can be just as equally detached as I can be emotional (and that is intensely). I think my behavior may be rather perplexing to others. They're always like, "You're so quiet..." and I'm kind of surprised but then if they catch me in a cheery mood, they're stunned. Then there's the dichotomy between being intense, circumspect or diminutive and being candidly mellow. People often say, "Relax; you're so tense" but a few minutes later, they're saying "Wow, you're so mellow. It's so weird."

I think I probably drive away people with my emotions though. Although I feel humiliated when I cry in public, a lot of times I can't help it, and I can weep quite bitterly too- and laugh just as heartily. When I was in high school, I used to be so depressed that I'd become accustomed to crying at school several times during the day. No one ever spoke a word to me about why I was upset- ever. They were all sangue-froid and indifferent, (or at least appeared to be so). Hence there was a time when I felt that I shed my tear with pride (and defiantly so) to all the impervious drones surrounding me.

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Makes me think of the POST A PIC of yourself thread in FFA, that recent Taurus' Cancer Sun/Cancer Moon/Aquarius Rising son. That's going to be an interesting boy to watch.


AG -

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posted May 11, 2007 05:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
pent up emotion is an understatement

i haven't cried in 3 and half years

sometimes i feel like i want to scream

but i can't....

i've started a new job and there is "pressure" to socialise with the team....

I don't wanna, just want to do my job and go home...

just want to be left alone in my little dream world...

i'm 35, male, aquarius sun and pisces rising

most likliest word used to describe me....?

conflicted....lol

thanks for reading :-)

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posted May 13, 2007 01:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
:::Cancer: You mentioned you feel this from aquas and scorps, well, that is because we are the same in this regard, but it's expressed a bit differently. Aquas try to hide their intensity by talking a lot and acting cheerful; scorpios don't hide it. We're both intense and secretive, which is the reason I think their is so much friction between us - in my personal expererience, anyway.


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i think , i'll agree with you on this one .

just one more question , when does an aqua start having faith on someone ?

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cancerrg
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posted May 13, 2007 01:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
:: ent up emotion is an understatement
i haven't cried in 3 and half years

sometimes i feel like i want to scream

but i can't....

:::

and i haven't in the last fiften yrs or so .
but that wasn't what i was refering to .

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posted May 13, 2007 07:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Cancer:

I can only speak for myself, but I think we start to have faith when we've completely dissected you under our invisible microscope, and have decided you are worthy of our trust. We need to know that you have our best interests at heart, and that we can trust you completely. In every possible way. Our intuition and our mind must be in accord regarding you. It can take time, but once we've decided that you passed the test, it's hard to get rid of us. We may take a long time to commit, but once we make a promise, we keep it. When we commit, we really commit. We are unconditional in our love, barring a major betrayal.

Of course, I speak for myself here, but I feel it's a true representation of aquarians.

One more thing, probably the most important -don't give him space and lead him to believe he can have freedom in a relationship with you, if that is not how you will really be once you have him. He will feel deceived (Aquas hate more than anything to feel deceived) and you will be unhappy if that is not what you want in a relationship. In short, you'll only be hurting yourself in the end.

Make sure you really want him for him, and not just because he's hard to get. Ask yourself that question privately and give it a lot of thought.

Oh, and scream and cry already! Even if you have to do it in a dark closet with a pillow to muffle the sound so no one can here. Do it. You'll feel tons better.

Good luck to you!

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"One more thing, probably the most important -don't give him space and lead him to believe he can have freedom in a relationship with you, if that is not how you will really be once you have him. He will feel deceived (Aquas hate more than anything to feel deceived) and you will be unhappy if that is not what you want in a relationship. In short, you'll only be hurting yourself in the end. "


You are soooo RIGHT Mustang when u say this! I just posted my experience in a new thread "I got burned by an Aqua Man".. I had to learn what u just said the hard way, unfortunately... :*( (i am a Cancer female)..i guess from his perspective it was okay to be MIA for weeks on end over and over again becuz i never made a big deal about it...even though it killed me inside :*(

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cancerrg
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posted May 15, 2007 06:47 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok , i'll tell you about my experience with aquas .
i have had the worst exp with them earlier .
initailly , it was a mutual suspicion and even hatred .

but with age and time , as i have grown up , i think they see me in a very different light .
i see a lot of appreciation that was so lacking earlier ,as far as faith is concerned , i think they start having faith even before i do .
(infact , i am surprised by their faith in such short periods )


i dont know what has made this happen .
is it my conviction ( i live a life where i do not have to be according to the standards of the society or is it my completete peace with myself or is it my ego and ambition . i dont really know but my guess , its a mix of all this )

tell me what it could be ?

p.s. : if i see it now , my basic friend circle consists of air and water people majorly.

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posted May 15, 2007 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for alanabelle86     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find the whole "Aquas have no feelings thing" to be hilarious. If many people knew, just how deep their feelings actually run...I think they'd be shocked (In true Uranus fashion).


Not an Aquarius myself, but I have a Mars in Aquarius with Uranus conjunct my AC. My boyfriend has the Moon/Jupiter in Aquarius with the Sun conjunct Uranus. He doesn't express much emotion around anyone else but with me good lord, one minute he's crying the next he's screaming, the next he's laughing, and the next he's anxious. And my god, the boy is so deep if he only expressed it to everyone.

I thought that was all due to his Mars in Scorpio (the depth) but my best friend...


She has her AC, Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, and Jupiter in Aquarius. She's the most emotional and sensitive person I've ever met in my life. It didn't make sense to me after reading all the Astro books about the Aquarian "cold detachment".


But cold detachment doesn't equal lack of emotions. We must remember that.

Being a strongly Uranian person myself, I always say that "emotions get in the way of logic". Like Plato, and the true way to happiness and reality is through the mind and knowledge, not feelings and emotions.


Tough call being a person with 5 planets in water *sighs*

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posted May 15, 2007 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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and the true way to happiness and reality is through the mind and knowledge, not feelings and emotions.

Uh nope I do not agree with that at all..

When your able to balance them both is the way to true happiness. I would not want with out the other..

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posted May 15, 2007 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dulce Luna     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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and the true way to happiness and reality is through the mind and knowledge, not feelings and emotions.


Yeah, I also would go NUTS if I could only have one without the other. I need both equally for happiness.

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posted May 15, 2007 04:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I find it funny that everyone seems to think aqua's have no emotions...what about the concept of aqua's being human? Human beings have emotions...and just because someone is an aqua or sag or whatever sign does not mean they are devoid of human emotions.

And to alanabelle86:
As far as you saying that emotions get in the way of logic, in a way you are correct, but on a psychological level believing that the only true way to happiness and reality is through logic, could lead to suppression. A person needs an equal amount of emotions, and rationale to be balanced and healthy emotionally.

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