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Topic: Venus square Saturn
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BroodingMooodlin
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posted October 13, 2007 05:54 PM
 
I have this and let us just say that I feel down-in-the-dumps when it comes to feeling loved, or giving and receiving love. I also have Venus square Uranus and I wonder if that exacerbates the problem. Both of these planets are in my fifth house and Uranus is the ruler of my seventh house.
At this point, I'm pretty eager to know about anyone else who share this aspect or personally knows someone else who has this (actually, this is more of a plea for help, lol). I guess other stressful venus-saturn aspects etc. apply as well... Any input would be highly appreciated.IP: Logged |
BroodingMooodlin
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posted October 13, 2007 10:28 PM
Okay I guess not...IP: Logged |
seastar
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posted October 13, 2007 10:46 PM
i have saturn opposed venus. it is as ive been told in the past a self love self confidence issue. i have none people walk on me and i take it and then get angry underneath and then get depressed. also i have uranus sq mars,moon, plutomy best guess is that its overcome by seeing your self in a positive light no matter what. just my bit take it or leave it.IP: Logged |
BroodingMooodlin
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posted October 14, 2007 09:02 AM
Okay, well I value your bit highly. Thank you. IP: Logged |
sthenri
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posted October 15, 2007 07:03 PM
Hi, I do know a few people with Uranus in the 7th and they seem to like traveling and meeting new friends,As for Saturn in the 5th, My Saturn and Venus are close in the 5th and I attract friends who have their Saturn aspecting my Venus very often, it's a tough thing because nothing is ever good or bad, life just plods along. The best you can do is remember that it's your life and you are loved by all your friends, keep your emotionally secure friends close and the depressed ones at a distance. I like taking trips that make me feel up and happy and memories are good, sentimental. Are you sentimental in any way? You probably have an excellent memory and good taste, you will have good luck with your home and your significant other when you choose because you are careful. I rely on friends most of the time who are like family. My sister's venus is in capricorn and we are very similar even though my venus is in aries. Does any of this make you feel better:>
And I'm a Taurus sun so you know how much we can Brood! IP: Logged |
Iam
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posted October 16, 2007 04:44 AM
I have Saturn square Venus.
I usually avoid gathering. I rarely feel the need to meet or chat with people. Normally, I meet people to talk only when there is really a relevant topic to discuss! Most of the time I prefer/feel comfortable being by myself rather than with people (of course with a few exceptions). I guess all these have their source from my fear, fear of saying wrong or irrelevant or uninteresting things, fear of being judged, fear of being unlovable,... so it's somehow like I hide myself or run away from people. Interesting enough, when I am away from people, my necessary skills required for being with people become blunt and dull, and I become more and more boring and stay even further and further from them. I believe that all these can be changed as I think I'm conscious of my problems, the point is just that whether I am willing to change!
Further, I have never ever been moved by any boy/man until when I reached 35+ years old! I believe we can definitely relate this to Saturn square Venus.Uranus square Venus. I don’t know all the possible manifestations of this aspect but I know a person with this aspect. I know he can be very easily attracted to girls (smart and beautiful ones) and he was somehow promiscuous. And I think he has also been that kind of man who can turn from hot to cold (in his temperament and his relationships) swiftly and unexpectedly. I guess (just guess) this can somehow be related to Uranus square Venus. … But I am aware that aspects in a chart can modify each other. Besides, when you are in a relationship, cross-chart aspects can modify the influence of each person’s natal aspects. For example, if Venus of a “Uranus square Venus” person forms an aspect with Saturn of the other person in a relationship – maybe the Saturn person can then curb the Uranus square Venus, so the Uranus square Venus trait may not show itself in that particular relationship. So that's it that I guess related to Venus square Saturn or Venus square Uranus in separate charts. I have no clue on how they can probably manifest if you have both aspects in your chart!  May I ask what kind of career/job or daily routine you are in? I just try to figure out how Uranus and Saturn (aspected with Venus) express their energy in your house of self-expression.
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Vintry
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posted October 16, 2007 07:25 AM
BroodingMoodlin,I have a venus/saturn square and hate it. My venus sextiles my uranus so I guess it is different from square. All I can say is that we need, we crave acceptance because our self esteem is so low that it needs restoring. I am slowly changing because it is time to start respecting yourself at least! I don't want some silly aspect to ruin everything for me. I am worthy of love as much as venus/saturn trine person so why always be scared, insecure and push love/people away. With this square, it is some kind of a personality complex.. Some people have an inferiority complex, we are the opposite. We belittle ourselves. So let's NOT! And, in my oppinion about your venus/uranus square, I think you will need to know what you want from a relationship because with people of the opposite gender you will eventually, unconciously blow hot and cold with them. They will find it hard to understand you and will feel pushed away by you. Having venus/saturn square it will make things worse for you because once you love someone and find it hard to express your love, you will also push them away without even intending to do so. Anyways, if you understand what your problem is, like I understand mine, then I am sure you will be able to fight it! Good luck and all the best in love department and others! IP: Logged |
BroodingMooodlin
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posted October 16, 2007 07:48 AM
Sthenri,
I’m glad you can continue forth, with the solace of feeling and hearing others’ hearts beating alongside yours, no matter how surreal, wretchedly disheartening, and indifferent the world can be sometimes. It does seem nice to have reliable friends who are emotionally secure and who aren’t so emotionally draining. I don’t have many friends but I immensely value the few that I do. Although I don’t see them much either (I can be a hermit lost in a coma sometimes) I light up like a pinball machine whenever I do (so much for being an Aqua, heheh). Still, it’s even more comforting to know there are others to whom I can relate as a fellow human in times of despair and especially so when I rejoice. Thank you for responding, Sthenri; you’re a real sweetheart. And if I may say so, yes, we are entitled to our brooding and anything else that makes us feel alive against the humdrum monotony of going through the motions!!
And to address your question about sentimentality, I guess I am that way. There are always things that seem to remind me of places that I’ve been to, the things I’ve seen, the voices I’ve heard, and the people I’ve known...Lam,
You sound like me regarding the distancing. A lot of times, I really do prefer my own company. I can enjoy an occasional rendezvous and spending a day with a friend or two while my roving eye gleeful searches for eye candy (I think that’s where the Venus square Uranus comes in! lol) but I think the latter is more because I’m perpetually single. Relax, though. If I had an ideal lover or partner I’d only have eyes for him, and besides, I only get excited when I travel far from home as in to another country, or at least, another city. I am forever bored by my dull neighborhood. I also think the Uranus aspect is somewhat culpable for my introversion and feelings of alienation. However, again, I have unexpected bouts of spontaneity etc. (I think that pertains to my loaded fifth house and the sag in my chart) but it’s more the exception than the rule. Saturn really sobers and dampens my mood and I’m still pretty shy regardless.
I feel strange in large crowds, or even a relatively small group; I’m only comfortable with one or two people at most, and that’s IF I trust them and can put my guard down. The prolonged isolation and depression outweigh the minute scintillating gaiety by FAR. I seem to push socializing and such aside to focus on “far more demanding” issues, lol. Anyway, lam and sthenri (you too, seastar!), I appreciate your generous contributions.  You’ve made me feel a lot better (for now, at least, haha).
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BroodingMooodlin
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posted October 16, 2007 08:28 AM
Wow, Vintry, your reply was as touching as it was accurate.I agree that I am pretty much my worst enemy. I'm constantly berating myself on a daily basis. Thankfully, though, I'm not as bad as I used to be. As for the Venus/Uranus square, I think I do puzzle the opposite sex...or something. It's sad and funny (meaning ironic) because I 've never really had a boyfriend before. I've had little relationships supposedly but in which I think the guy and I had a mutual liking/attraction to one another but they never developed further. They were eternally stuck in friend mode like we were both biding our time but didn't know when to open up and break the ice. They did seem to run hot and cold and constantly edging toward the precipice of truth, beyond which we never egressed. I met one of them in Europe, but I haven't gone back since to see him and the long-distance thing is like a joke in our situation. I think he's regarding the whole thing as simply friends. I don't see the two other guys at all. One moved away for school, I know, and the other...well, let's just say things didn't go too well with him and I cut him off swiftly and suddenly. I think he was the one who was being aloof and distant, and it probably surprised him to see me playing the ice queen. I don't think it has anything to do with looks (actually maybe it does) because honestly I don't think I'm quite lacking in that department. I can be kooky but that's more of an Aqua-leo thing, I'd say. But it is strange when it comes to how guys react to me. They seem interested but they rarely approach me. And the guys who like my friends always act extra-possessive and super-jealous whenever I'm around. Hahaha. I don't know why they feel so threatened, and by feeling so, some of them have been kind of rude to me. It's kind of pathetic but it cracks me up every time, because their behavior certainly doesn't alter my bond between my most prized friend(s). But I think some of the things I've mentioned deal with other things in my chart. Your comments were really helpful Vintry. Thank you!  IP: Logged |
BroodingMooodlin
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posted October 16, 2007 08:30 AM
Ps, my heart goes out to anyone who must cope with this bull, or any kind, in any way, on a daily basis. IP: Logged |
meissieri
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posted September 18, 2013 03:51 PM
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Sandra018
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posted October 13, 2013 06:45 PM
I know a few females with this aspect ( Venus sq Saturn), my first cousin being one of them, and its challenging.
Its actually interesting that all 3 females with Venus-Saturn contact are extremely beautiful and attractive but so unlucky in love.
My first cousin- she is now in her early 40s, never married and no kids. Actually I don't ever remember her having an actual relationship. Doubt she will marry at all.The 2 other females with this contact( one of them has the opposition, and the other one square) are both in their early 20s so there is still hope. The one with the opposition has had some relationships, although its been challenging, and she is very active, goes out a lot, has a ton of friends and contacts and still nothing...
The one with the square is actually still a virgin, but all 3 of them, again, drop-dead gorgeous.
I am always interested to find out what aspects have the people with challenging love lives. My Venus is opposed to Pluto, so I can relate.. IP: Logged |
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posted November 23, 2013 07:51 PM
Not sure anyone will see this but I have this aspect too. I have had long term rels(3+ yrs) that ultimately didn't work out. I too have problems with confidence and going out meeting people making me always single. I also have only very close people who I'll hang out who I can trust.IP: Logged |
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posted December 26, 2013 11:50 PM
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posted December 27, 2013 03:46 AM
For me Venus square Saturn is like that:Friends: Such a lovely friend you are. You are so good I'm gonna use you endlessly. Then I'm gonna dump you in the bin like an old rag. In the end there are others better than you. Love: Sorry darling. I cannot love you. You see that girl over there? She's BETTER than you. She's not as ugly as you are, she's loved by everyone and she has qualities that you don't have. You can die. I hate you anyway. OR:
I like you so much. You have no idea how much. One day, I will have you naked in my bed and then I'm gonna brag to my friends how stupid you are. IP: Logged |
curiouswoman
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posted December 27, 2013 08:18 PM
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Originally posted by whaaat:
I have Saturn in the 7th, Saturn opposition AC,Venus Square Saturn and Sun square Saturn. I have always struggled with feeling lovable. I'm also extremely jealous, but not possessive.
I often feel like I'm not wanted so I often find myself abandoning people and situations. I also cry easily, which freaks people out and contributes to my reputation as an emotionally unstable individual.
I'm very quiet and shy, and when people do acknowledge me I come on too strong (I just feel such an intense rush of affection/gratitude that someone noticed me that I freak them out). It's a behaviour that has been with me since childhood. I would never make an effort to let people in because of a fear of being rejected, so I would sit there like the stereotypical loaner 'freak' and wait to get noticed. And then if someone noticed me I'd blush and tear up and they would freak out (I would too if I were them)or if someone made a joke about me to perhaps attempt to involve me in their conversation or smth I would break into tears.
I'm getting better, but it's like carrying a rock around my neck. I still feel rejected and ridiculed, and will sometimes burst out crying at the ripe age of 18. 
i know exactly what you mean, hugs 
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curiouswoman
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posted December 27, 2013 08:20 PM
hugs Rosalind quote:
Originally posted by Rosalind:
For me Venus square Saturn is like that:Friends: Such a lovely friend you are. You are so good I'm gonna use you endlessly. Then I'm gonna dump you in the bin like an old rag. In the end there are others better than you. Love: Sorry darling. I cannot love you. You see that girl over there? She's BETTER than you. She's not as ugly as you are, she's loved by everyone and she has qualities that you don't have. You can die. I hate you anyway. OR:
I like you so much. You have no idea how much. One day, I will have you naked in my bed and then I'm gonna brag to my friends how stupid you are.
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Taineberry
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posted January 12, 2014 03:53 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Rosalind:
For me Venus square Saturn is like that:Friends: Such a lovely friend you are. You are so good I'm gonna use you endlessly. Then I'm gonna dump you in the bin like an old rag. In the end there are others better than you. Love: Sorry darling. I cannot love you. You see that girl over there? She's BETTER than you. She's not as ugly as you are, she's loved by everyone and she has qualities that you don't have. You can die. I hate you anyway. OR:
I like you so much. You have no idea how much. One day, I will have you naked in my bed and then I'm gonna brag to my friends how stupid you are.
I hear you Rosalind. I have this aspect too. My understanding is that with Saturn squares you will never get approval from external sources. Indeed it IS SATURN's FUNCTION to make us turn within, to become our own inner authority, and to learn to approve ourselves. It is so difficult, but it is the only way and it entails a life long learning curve to tame the ego to the point that it does not matter if you don't receive the love and acceptance you crave.... You give love anyway because you ARE love. IP: Logged |
HPDBlue
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posted January 16, 2014 08:27 PM
I have this aspect and know someone with venus opposite saturn. In my past I've had issues with people and relationships. I was fawned , groped, pursued, desired, obsessed after left and right. They all ended up either abusive, a flake..leaving me alone in my sweat drenched bed while they run home to their wives and husbands. I started to not trust people and I believed that I was unlovable. After years of being abused and unloved, I came to the sudden realization that I was doing it all to myself. Some serious soul searching and healing began . I learned to love myself, appreciate myself, give service to others in loving ways which would not compromise my own integrity. Now, years later, I value myself and don't place myself into abusive relationships. I look very deeply inside myself and observe my desires regularly and If someone offers me something that doesn't match what I'm looking for I don't even touch it. Even if it's marriage. It takes time to get to know me, to get close enough to bed with me on an emotional/heart level. Because of that people fall in love with me a lot, but I still remain by myself. Not alone, just with ME. and I love it. It doesn't have to be a harsh aspect. Yes at first it might feel that way. But it really does bring you tremendous strength, growth, discipline and maturity. I love this aspect now, and I love the energies Saturn has to offer. Without it, and all those tears, I wouldn't be where I'm at now.
The person I know with the opposite- She has difficulty being appreciated and loved. Yes she has a quirky in your face OCD personality but people just can't warm up to her, even when she tries to be sweet and accommodating. I see the look in her eyes, it bothers her. She sees others being appreciated and loved and a flash of sadness slips out. She has 3 planets retrograde on her chart, saturn being one of them. Lots of internal activity going on with this girl. =) I love her so much.
Anyways. Yeah. Saturn. Yay. IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 17, 2014 01:07 PM
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AlexDern
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posted January 17, 2014 02:27 PM
Venus square Saturn means love delayed, but the native May love his career, money, etc...relationships are seventh house issues and Mose marriages are not based on Venusian love...they are based on idealistic love which is more of a spiritual value.IP: Logged |
Randall
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posted January 18, 2014 02:56 PM
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posted January 23, 2014 12:34 AM
I have venus 12th house quintile Saturn. IP: Logged | |
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