posted April 24, 2008 04:57 AM         

Sun opposite Moon
Sun opposite Uranus
Venus opposite Neptune
Jupiter opposite Pluto

posted April 24, 2008 05:34 AM         

Sun/Merc opp Saturn
Mars opp Neptune
Jupiter opp moon/pluto
Moon opp Chiron

I have mars, neptune, jupiter, pluto (and sometimes moon) in a mystic rectangle.

Often, I feel see-sawish. I can feel both elements and it can be quite confusing but usually if I let it go and forget it sorts itself out. And I suppose the rectangle gets firing too. I suppose, its a placid agreement with the planets. It adds a lot of flexibility to my personality I think, maybe an ability to see both sides. They say oppositions are a lot like gemini and sag in particular.

It doesn't have that friction that requires positive action that squares produce.

posted April 24, 2008 06:00 AM         

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My Jupiter is in the 5th house... I used to teach kids... (and I'm a Sagi rising so Jupiter is my chart ruler). Yeah I've heard about it being a wealth aspect and I do attract money, I just don't always hold on to it. I am learning to be a good saver now though.

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Hmmm interesting. I think the 11th house pluto also reflects adopted children, so the kids that you taught were in effect "adopted" by you.

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Just remembered I also have Mercury opposite Uranus (as well as Aquarius on the 3rd house cusp) so I often burst out and say whatever I was thinking. My Mercury is in Taurus, and sometimes I think faster than I speak and it's strange because my thoughts are racing off ahead of what I'm actually saying. Typing is better for me as I'm a good speed typer. Sometimes it's hard for me to hold back what I want to say, especially when someone else is talking, and I can't wait to find a place in the conversation to jump in and say what I'm thinking. o.o

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Yep, know that too. I have merc rx (aqu) squ uranus and I have the problem of my mouth or hand/fingers keeping up with thoughts. But not only that, I don't say things in a very direct linear way; I circumlocute and literally add bits into stories when I tell people. Luckily people tell me that although my verbalisation is odd, its at least interesting

posted April 24, 2008 04:17 PM         

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Interesting about your Mercury-Uranus square. Sounds like it is more intense than my opposition maybe?

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posted April 24, 2008 04:32 PM         

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Does it feel like you can only express one of the planets at a time?

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No, not at all.

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Or is it more like you must always balance the two, never being too martial or too lunar, for example?

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I don't feel any balancing act. I simply see myself as getting to the point in the most concise manner possible in most situations. I have difficulty elaborating on what I've already condensed into the smallest form.

I do also notice that I communicate in an odd manner sometimes. My choice of words, or the order I put them in can be unusual or formal if compared to everyday language.

Saturn discipline on Mercury is a good thing.

posted April 24, 2008 04:56 PM         

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Saturn discipline on Mercury is a good thing.

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Yes I agree. I have it with the uranian square to my mercury. Saturn makes my thoughts structured and adds a lot of soberness to my thinking and balances out the square. Hard realism.

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I also have a looser opposition from Saturn to Venus. It's 5 degrees, so still valid. I'm not exactly sure how it plays out, though.

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posted April 24, 2008 05:06 PM         

yet another similiarity between our charts - I don`t have a real opposition either, but my best friend has quite a lot of them; her Moon is opposing her Mercury, Venus, Mars and Pluto.
Sometimes, when I talk to her, it`s like looking into a completely different world. She made me notice and be aware of so many things in my social environment (her Mercury, Venus, Mars and Pluto are in Libra in 5th house, while her Moon is in Aries in 11th house), that I had never noticed before. In a way she helped me understand how some of our society "works" - I was completely blind and naive to it in large parts.
Well, her Saturn is also opposing my Aquarius-Moon.

posted April 24, 2008 05:12 PM         

I will buy that Jupiter-Pluto opposition in the 5th/11th house aspect from you. Oh my God!

This is what I'm thinking about it. You are a classic example of "Do what you love and the money will follow."

Seriously, it's as if you can do no wrong. What ever you want to do in your life, the money is going to follow you. Quit the job you don't want. Maybe God wants me to tell you this. What is your dream job? DO IT!! You'll be compensated. Your bills WILL be paid off.

I'll trade my Sun-Mars opposition. Don't worry, you want get too angry because Mars is in Libra, so it's pretty weak. You'll just get angry enough at your boyfriend so he'll fear ******* you off. Other than that, I'm pretty mellow.

posted April 24, 2008 05:16 PM         

Venus also represents money. I've still got some learning to go in order to get this aspect disciplined properly. Although, in times when I've had much more money than I've needed there was never an issue with saving.

posted April 25, 2008 04:45 AM         

So for some the opposition has a see-saw effect, while for others the outer planet merely colors the expression of the inner planet.

I'm just so confuseded! I think I'm experiencing a crisis with understanding aspects. They're all blurring together for me.

If anyone has every major aspect in their chart (conj, opp, square, trine, sextile) have you thought about how each one feels different?

B/c for me, I don't feel much of a difference between them, except for the square. The conj, trine, and sextile feel similar. The planets involved work together automatically. Trying to use one of the planets w/o the other is difficult.

The square is very different though b/c I can use just one of the planets. Sometimes I can be just my 10th house Leo Moon, caring a lot about the group/couple I'm part of and the cooperation it calls for. Other times I can be just my 1st house Scorpio Uranus, wanting to do everything off on my own and telling the 10th house world to kiss my Uranus. And then I have to consciously put the two back together. Mercury also squares my Moon...I can easily separate how something makes me feel from what I think about it.

To contrast, Neptune trines my Moon and if I'm in feeling mood I can't NOT feel Neptunian. It's a part of my Moon. So this could be cr@ppy when Neptune isn't really called for. But my good old Mercury squaring my Moon helps me slow that trine down and think about it rationally. So a square is actually giving me major benefit. Easy aspects can just make it easier for you to be a dumb@ss.

Sorry, this is very unorganized. I'm just trying to better understand all the aspects and why the hard ones are considered bad when they can actually help you, why the easy ones are considered good when they can easily harm you, and how they all feel subtly different.

posted April 25, 2008 05:45 AM         

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If anyone has every major aspect in their chart (conj, opp, square, trine, sextile) have you thought about how each one feels different?....

....B/c for me, I don't feel much of a difference between them, except for the square. The conj, trine, and sextile feel similar. The planets involved work together automatically. Trying to use one of the planets w/o the other is difficult.

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I have all the aspects and I think you have it there in your description. Trine is an automatic harmony without thought or activation - it is just there, both potent and lazy at the same time; sextile is harmony with a bit of ignition - something has to trigger it I believe, it feels a lot weaker than a trine. Opposition is see-saw (for me) that will be balanced out by the planets in due couse, square is a violent and the planets need a counsellor and some sessions!

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Sorry, this is very unorganized.

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Its ok, these aren't easy concepts to grasp, it takes a lot of thinking and I feel at times I completely don't get things

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Edit: By "easy" does that just mean that the planets easily flow together, and by "hard" does that just mean that there's effort required in getting them to work together? But I've seen conjunctions sometimes described as "hard" aspects, yet conjunct planets mold together. So what exactly does "hard" mean? And what makes an opposition hard?

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Well conjunctions are both good and bad. They have good qualities and bad qualities but I guess they are considered hard because they have some negative quality about them and require the planets to negotiate. For example sun conj mercury. Mercury is trying to think but with sun nearby, mercury is forced to take into account ego. Sun on the other hand, would feel this less as mercury is the smaller and combust planet. However sun would be forced to deal with thoughts but all sun wants to do is say "I (am)"

posted April 25, 2008 05:50 AM         

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So for some the opposition has a see-saw effect, while for others the outer planet merely colors the expression of the inner planet.

I'm just so confuseded! I think I'm experiencing a crisis with understanding aspects. They're all blurring together for me.

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posted April 25, 2008 06:27 AM         

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square is a violent and the planets need a counsellor and some sessions!

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lmao! That really helped me get this in order.

So with the trine, the planets are BFF , hanging out all the time and they really understand one another. If I were to walk in on my Moon and Neptune, they'd be gazing lovingly into each other's eyes.

And the sextile gets along, but it's more like a friend who lives out of town but comes to visit regularly. Things may be a little awkward at first, but then everything clicks and they get to know one another better. So if I walked in on my Moon and Pluto, they'd be having polite small talk that gradually gets more intimate, and with subsequent visits the polite stage lasts less and less.

But with the square, they never interact, one's a Jet and the other's a Shark, a Montague and a Capulet. They've been raised not to like one another and are perfectly content with never interacting, would prefer it, actually. And when they do meet, violence ensues. If I were to walk in on my Moon and Uranus, Uranus would have Moon pinned down, and Moon would be sobbing and gnawing at Uranus's ankles while Uranus laughs maniacally. But with some counseling, a respect and cooperation can develop and each planet is forced to better learn who he is and how to be the best version of himself.

The opposition is less hostile, more like strangers meeting for the first time, taking part in one of those work retreats, a survival weekend in the woods, and they slowly figure out how to work together. (This is still the one I understand least. I have opposition envy. )

And finally in the conjunction, it's like conjoined twins, but they don't get the benefit of being identical; instead, one may be a bully and make the other uncomfortable or it could be positive and they combine forces into a superpower.

posted April 25, 2008 07:45 AM         

Conjunctions: Sun-Mercury
Oppositions: Venus-Neptune, Jupiter-Pluto, Sun-Moon, Sun-Uranus
Squares: Venus-Mars, Mars-Neptune, Saturn-Jupiter, Saturn-Pluto
Trines: Moon-Mars, Moon-Saturn, Saturn-Mars, Venus-Pluto
Sextiles: Mars-Sun, Mars-Mercury, Saturn-Mercury, Venus-Jupiter, Pluto-Neptune, Neptune-Jupiter

posted April 26, 2008 05:58 AM         

Excellent thread, mamasita! I loved your definitions of the aspects.

I have a Venus Aries (7th) vs. Mars Scorpio (1st) opposition at 5 degrees

annnndddd....

I have Pisces Sun conjunct Chiron (in 5th) and Saturn (in 6th) opposite Uranus and Pluto in Virgo.

As I wrote about in another thread, my Venus Aries (impulsive, fickle) is at odds with my Mars Scorpio (wanting intensity and depth). I think that Mars acts as a bit of a disciplinarian...which is a good thing. Venus Aries will never "mature" on her own. It's more a matter of me growing up and choosing to allow the other planets to keep her in check!

With the Sun/Chiron/Saturn vs. Uranus/Pluto, I think it's similar to the Mars/Venus scenario in some ways. My Sun in the 5th loves to have fun and be social. Saturn helps the sun keep its curfew and eat its vegetables before polishing off dessert. Pluto, of course is adding the same thing to the mix as Mars in Scorpio. Slow down...wait for something with depth...consider the consequences...look for meaning...learn from the experience. Thennnnn, there's Uranus! Woo hoo...

He adds a bit of daredevil to my sappy Pisces sun. He also gives me a bit of a loopy sense of humor and kinda makes me a fly-by-the-seat-of-my-pants kind of girl. (The words spontaneous road trip come to mind!) The other thing I'm reminded of is that when I was in high school, one of my friends told me that I was a walking contradiction. He said that in spite of my 'goody two shoesedness,' I was the wildest person he knew. Guess that would sum up the Sun/Saturn opposite Uranus!

On another note, did you get hitched yet???

posted April 26, 2008 06:49 AM         

Conjunctions: mars/ascendant, saturn/uranus, saturn/midheaven, uranus/midheaven,

Trine: Sun/pluto, moon/neptune

Sextile: Sun/moon, mars/jupiter, jupiter/ascendant, neptune/pluto

Square: mercury/mars, mercury/ascendant, mars/saturn, mars/uranus, mars/midheaven, saturn/ascendat, uranus/ascendant

Opposition: sun/neptune, moon/pluto, mercury/saturn, mercury/uranus, mercury/midheaven

chiron
opposition: neptune, uranus, saturn
square: Mars
Conjunct: Venus
Trine: Pluto

I added in ascendant, midheaven and chiron.

My Mars seems to be squared with many planets, how typical. I wonder who won? He's situated in Pisces though, I suppose he's angry that he's in a what he thinks is a wimpy sign and makes up for that by being the only planet in my first house. So I'm passively aggressive or vice versa.

Actually, my planets are arbitrary in who they want to oppose or go all buddy-buddy with. As a result I'm empathic, sensitive to people and compassionate, but mischievously love to stir trouble and come out with witticisms that are cutting.
I like to play mind games, but hate that people play mind games with me and I feel very guilty if I play mind games but I think well as long as it's subtle it's alright.

I love to express my affection for others and feel like I love everybody and trust that people have good in them. However I am cold to my friends sometimes just for no reason at all or because they hurt me and I am aloof in many situations because I feel isolated.

I am clingy, sentimental and very intensely emotional. However I am rational, logical to the point of being quite cold-hearted and often feel like severing ties with some people but know I can't.

The dominant planet at the moment would be what decides your actions, even if internally/emotionally what you really want to do is the opposite.

posted April 26, 2008 09:12 AM         

In other words: welcome to the suck.

My Pluto in the 12th opp Venus/Mars conjunction in House 6 is the hardest. It seems there is almost always a hidden enemy in my workplace determined to make me miserable (and the enemy at my last job was quite hostile, borderline dangerous). That opposition also reflects the way my psychological...issues interfere with family dynamics, (6th house is the house of family karma) which is appropriate, as the issues were caused by family members.

My Uranus-Sun opposition is the most difficult for me to deal with on a day-to-day basis, though: Uranus on the Ascendant opposing Sun in the 7th: a girl in high school said it best, "People just don't take the time to understand you, wild sheep."

I don't love my Uranus-Merc opposition at times, but for the most part that's the one I am least bothered by. In my life, it simply reflects the way that my unconventional personality makes it tough for me to communicate effectively with people who don't value individuality. And that's it. No biggie.

posted April 26, 2008 11:21 AM         

The other opposition, Saturn conj Jupiter in 12 vs. Mercury in 6th is part of a t-square with neptune in 3rd, that sucks also, I'm always so self conscious about communication, I almost cringe when I see a typo, or when I could of said somenthing and I didn't.
I also have lilith in scorpio opposite moon-chiron, but I don't know how it manifests, the cookbook sais it's about rejecting the mother image, which could be true. I don't identify with my mother at all, but I have a very masculine chart, and the moon is singleton and unaspected, so...

posted April 26, 2008 11:35 AM         

i really like this opposition.. mainly because i like both of these signs and i get to experience both of them!!!!

the problem with me is that its so hard to distinguish Taurus and Scorpio people. i guess i feel more of what pulls them together and makes them stem from the same root- so they just blur together from me in the sensation i get from them.

i see how people with Taurus are a great match for my Scorpio and people with Scorpio are a great match with my Taurus.

it also makes my experience of Leo-Aquarius that much more foreign and exciting. these signs are intercepted in my chart and i have so little going on with them. but i love spending time with these folks, its like shooting myself off to a different universe... and the way we see things differently really does seem like its 90 degrees turned on its side.

so.. love the opposition, though as with all moon-venus and pluto oppositions it makes feelings intense, sometimes debilitating, driving factors of your life, and is not good for painful experiences.