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starrym
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posted May 17, 2008 09:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrym     Edit/Delete Message
There are a couple really rough transits going on in my moms chart as of late:
Saturn opposition Jupiter,
Saturn conjunct Pluto,
Saturn square Moon

Im worried about her and noticed shes been out of it lately. Can anyone tell me about their experiences?

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Geocosmic Valentine
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posted May 17, 2008 11:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Geocosmic Valentine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Starrym,

That combination of planets is suggesting loneliness, hard work and serious loss and could also be affecting her health. If you know what houses in her chart are ruled by Saturn, Pluto and Jupiter, that will help you in figuring out what areas of her life are being affected, but because you said that she's "out of it" seriously consider checking her health anyway.

When Saturn makes stressful aspects to the Moon in a woman's chart, it's always a good idea to just keep your health as strong as possible around the female related organs, the breasts, belly and reproductive system. Also because Pluto naturally squares her Moon, I'll strengthen my suggestion to keep a strong eye on female health issues. I'm assuming your Mom is over 40, ask her about her health, but don't get worried, I'm just speaking in terms of prevention.

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artemisss
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posted May 18, 2008 04:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for artemisss     Edit/Delete Message
hey there

i am currently going through the same transits.....

natal saturn in scorpio in 9th house, pluto in scorpio in 8th house, moon in pisces in first house ... ouch


some things i have experienced over the past few months....


broke up with my bf of 2 years in march, got a great job for the summer in CA, (my home town.) so i will be moving from NY back to CA, for 2 months, this week...

i got strait A's in law school for the first time....

i have never been more of an insomniac as i have been since march, i dont sleep until 6am....and i have been very very very very sad post break up, but very very focused and hard working

also, i have been very very very social, a lot of new men "Friends" in my life...but that could be because of some other reasons/transits...[jupiter conjunct venus]

also, have not had any desire to eat much, and dropped down to about 105, but i also have had no desire to work out either.... just a lot of unhealthy and self destructive habits


per astro.com:


Saturn square Sun: Patience and perseverance

Beginning of November 2007 until beginning of August 2008: This influence represents a time of critical developments. Various factors in the outside world will challenge you strongly, and it may seem difficult to maintain your freedom of action in whatever you are trying to do.

You may feel unusually discouraged at this time, because your vitality is at a low point. It may be best not to struggle too hard against any adversity that comes into your life now. Patience and perseverance will carry you through until your energy level is up again.

Authority figures, such as employers, government officials or parents, may prove difficult to deal with. You may find that they are not receptive to your plans or suggestions, that they resist your efforts. It is advisable to work patiently to bring them around to your point of view. Don't withdraw from the confrontation, but don't fight blindly. That would guarantee defeat.

This period of your life is directly linked to a time seven years ago, a time of new beginnings for you. This time now is made especially difficult by the fact that many of these projects have been going quite well, and the current difficulties seem totally unexpected.

However, this is a period of trial, which will demonstrate whether or not those new beginnings were valid. Anything invalid is likely to fall by the wayside. You will probably regard it as a failure. But you may not be aware right away that this is happening, especially if you are not paying close attention.

Your ambitions may be thwarted now, but be patient and make sure you are on the right course. If you are, this period will be a trial rather than a defeat. Even if it is a defeat, you can still accomplish a great deal by transferring your energies to more productive areas.


Uranus trine Saturn: Understanding limitations

Beginning of April 2008 until beginning of March 2009: At this time in your life, discipline, order and responsibility can lead you to understanding and freedom. You will learn to understand and respect your limitations and work with them so that they are no longer so limiting. Everyone has limitations, but they can be used in a positive way and actually become tools for managing your life.

Your approach to life is very methodical and thorough, but you are not satisfied with the status quo. At this time you will seek out ways to constructively create changes, taking a very definite course of action to achieve what you want. Not satisfied with abstract formulations of principles, you want to know exactly how to do something, so that you can immediately get to the task. Therefore this is an excellent time for studying any difficult but practical technique.

This is a good time for learning new ways to advance in your profession. You may appear ambitious, but you are really working carefully to expand your world and avoid undue limitations on your life. Whatever your motivation, you will win favor from your superiors, because they can see that you have balanced hard work and discipline on one hand with innovation and originality on the other. For this reason you may get a promotion of some kind now, which will bring you greater power and authority. But even if you achieve a new position, you are not likely to cease working for change within the system that you are part of. You will continue for some time, perhaps always, to work for reform and new ways of doing things, but always in the practical manner that got you there in the first place.

Saturn opposition Moon: An emotional trial

Beginning of September 2007 until beginning of June 2008: This is one of the most emotionally trying influences. It is frequently associated with domestic or professional problems, emotional depression, loneliness, difficulties with women or difficulties with personal relationships, often leading to breakups.

This influence represents an "alienation crisis," that is, a crisis brought about by the discovery that you have been neglecting your emotional and psychological needs. As a result you feel alone and disconnected from others, like an alien in the world whom no one else can ever adequately understand.

To a greater or lesser extent, everyone's life revolves around an overall task or purpose that makes one's life unique. The purpose may be a job, motherhood, fatherhood, some movement that you believe in or anything else that gives you a sense of purpose. Often an alienation crisis occurs when you discover that you have gone too far too fast in pursuit of your life purpose and have neglected your psychological and emotional needs. Perhaps you have neglected your relationships or your domestic life, or you have repressed your feelings. In this way you build up a wall between yourself and others, which makes you feel alone and alienated.

You must make your personal life and your profession or other central purpose work together. That will require changing your lifestyle so that you can pay equal attention to both.

it will be a passing phase, and hopefully she will be feeling better this week with the earth grand trine, i know i have been

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starrym
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posted May 18, 2008 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starrym     Edit/Delete Message
thank you Geocosmic Valentine and Artemisss

Geo, you're right - health is something of an issue now too. Over the last few years she's become overweight due to pressures at her job. otherwise she has a very strong body and it seems resistant to the strains. i just am worried that her new weight will catch up to her and dampen her health.


i notice that her health has been up and down lately- but nothing serious. i really want her to take off time from her job and focus on relaxing herself and making time to destress herself but she spends 100% of her life there (sounds a lot like you Artemisss.. focused and hardworking... but perhaps in too manic of a way?).

another problem is that she works in the business world and her company has had billions in losses - shes super worried about getting fired soon and works every night until midnight and wont take any sick or vacation days off.

its not that we're really really strapped for money but she has worries of being in a bad place financially.

i will ask her to keep an eye on her health. if you have any suggestions of what i can do, please let me know..

here is her data (April 8th, 1962)

transiting Saturn (Virgo) in 10th opposing Jupiter (Pisces) in 4th (very close to MC-IC)

transiting Saturn conjunct Pluto in 10th (Virgo)

transiting Saturn squaring Moon in the 8th in Gemini

many thanks...

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