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Topic: Your thougts on a Sun square Saturn double whammy in synastry are?
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Got Gemini?
Knowflake Posts: 1037
From: Mercury
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted May 24, 2008 02:44 PM
 
Anyone ever expriencd a Sun square Saturn double whammy in synastry? (one is 2 degrees and the other is 0 degrees).Also does it make a difference that the two people have harmonious sun-Saturn aspects natally? Do you think that might help negate the bad aspects of the double whammy? (to be specific, one person's Saturn sextiles their sun and mercury. The other person's Saturn sextiles their sun. Both people's sextile aspects are 0 and 1 degrees.) ------------------
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heart cakes
Knowflake Posts: 1561
From: canada
Registered: Sep 2007
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posted May 24, 2008 03:19 PM
my giant guess here is that you both excite one another. according to liz green, sun-saturn aspects are basically a GOOD thing. the energy tends to be comprised of the sun person being a shining example of all the things the saturn person is afraid of.. so saturn is drawn to the sun and the sun feels benevolent and warm towards saturn. so having a double whammy sounds very very nice. like you would each have a lot to offer AND learn from one another. the light of the sun can cast light into the shadows of your fears, and both of you provide this for one another. sometimes saturn might want to control things, though, out of insecurity or fear, but needs to relax and take in all those good qualities he admires in the sun person!IP: Logged |
Got Gemini?
Knowflake Posts: 1037
From: Mercury
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted May 24, 2008 03:26 PM
Cool beans. I appreciate the speedy response! That sounds like a great thing then. Whenever I read interprets for that aspect in my synastries, I'm like, "Wow! Those negatives sound NOTHING like me." I am nowhere NEAR a controlling person as I do not believe in trying to control people. ------------------
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heart cakes
Knowflake Posts: 1561
From: canada
Registered: Sep 2007
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posted May 24, 2008 03:34 PM
well, gemini isn't really controlling at all. at least i don't think so. and anyone who is trying to control in any situation is doing so cuz they feel OUT OF control, you know? so once you understand that, it's easy to see through it. but there is also a great wisdom to saturn and the sun can steady itself and apply itself within saturn's guidance. so balance is key..IP: Logged |
Unmoved
Knowflake Posts: 2160
From: Born in S.Africa
Registered: Jun 2007
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posted May 24, 2008 03:35 PM
I have read that it is one of those toxic unions that are difficult to break away from. It also signifies a maturity difference making one partner the parent figure and the other childish with both parties finding each other insufferable. When I see this aspect, I run unless there are other counter-acting aspects. Even so, I still run because Im too unevolved.IP: Logged |
Unmoved
Knowflake Posts: 2160
From: Born in S.Africa
Registered: Jun 2007
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posted May 24, 2008 03:48 PM
To add... A double whammy equals double the trouble because the parties could have reached a consensus otherwise with one accepting the other as the boss but when both have it, I would say u r both screwed, not just one of you. But its a deep bond all the same. Deep and choc full of endurance. IP: Logged |
bvanzy
Knowflake Posts: 379
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Registered: Jul 2007
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posted May 24, 2008 03:52 PM
Yeah, sorry Got Gemini, but I don't like the sound of this either, and while they might feel binding, they are emphatically not loving, and they could take time to play out in their full non-glory.However, since you both have them, at least both of you suffer equally at the hands of these aspects  IP: Logged |
heart cakes
Knowflake Posts: 1561
From: canada
Registered: Sep 2007
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posted May 24, 2008 03:53 PM
so is it the square then? or just the sun-saturn contact in general? IP: Logged |
bvanzy
Knowflake Posts: 379
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posted May 24, 2008 03:54 PM
You are both used to Saturn helping rather than blocking you in your own charts, so the squares won't be offset in the synastry. IP: Logged |
Got Gemini?
Knowflake Posts: 1037
From: Mercury
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted May 24, 2008 03:59 PM
How would you think that double whammy would play out with our other moon conjunct Pluto double whammy?My sun and merc also trines her Pluto and her Venus sextiles my Pluto. There are more plutonian aspects between us but those are the ones I remember off hand. Her NN is also conjunct my asc. So whats the word on that? I hear you unmoved. My thing is that I can be the passive one or the leader depending on the mood of the relationship. I'm comfortable in either position. I will say I don't like being controlled if the controller is being malevolent. ------------------
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clockworkrose
Knowflake Posts: 121
From: Pa, USA
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted May 24, 2008 04:23 PM
It's going to be a long-lasting relationship... you'll feel bound to eachother. Other than that, I don't see it as a romantic aspect to have between two people. Look for other aspects, such as Sun-Moon, Moon-Venus, ect. that maybe will help lessen the effects of the sun-saturn square.I've never experienced the double whammy, but I have experienced the Sun-Saturn square, and there always seems to be a 'heavy' feeling between the two. Always long lasting, it feels like you can't get away from the other person, no matter how much you despise them lol. It's never been a personal favorite of mine honestly. IP: Logged |
heart cakes
Knowflake Posts: 1561
From: canada
Registered: Sep 2007
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posted May 24, 2008 04:44 PM
what about saturn square sun and saturn trine sun, each at 6 deg orbs in synastry?IP: Logged |
clockworkrose
Knowflake Posts: 121
From: Pa, USA
Registered: Jul 2004
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posted May 24, 2008 04:59 PM
the sun trine saturn isn't that bad.. not as heavy, but adds some stability. and with the 6 deg orb for the square, it won't be as strongly felt.IP: Logged |
Got Gemini?
Knowflake Posts: 1037
From: Mercury
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted May 24, 2008 05:28 PM
We also have her sun trine my Venus. Her Venus sextile my moon. My moon sextile her merc and Venus. Her moon trine my sun and merc (wide). Her juno conjunct my Venus. My Neptune conjunct her Venus. Her NN conjunct my Asc. Her mercury conjunct my IC. Her psyche trine my Sun and Merc. Her moon/venus midpoint conjunct my IC. And there are more that I don't remember off the top of my head.We also share some progressed aspects (mostly my progressed to her natal, the other way around is all hard aspects). ------------------
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bvanzy
Knowflake Posts: 379
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posted May 24, 2008 06:29 PM
Well, those are some great aspects Got Gemini. But they don't ease the flow of the Saturn square Sun double whammy. It just means you are more likely to fall for each other, adore each other, AND have to deal with the Saturn Sun squares issues.Saturn square Sun drains your energy, increases bitterness and the potential for deception amongst other things. However, you won't only operate on that level, but on all the others too. Magi astrology says Saturn clashes increase the desire to bond with someone, then hurts the people involved. Your other aspects together are pretty intense and loving, so this relationship could hurt. IP: Logged |
Got Gemini?
Knowflake Posts: 1037
From: Mercury
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted May 24, 2008 07:31 PM
Ive had feelings for this girl for almost 20 years. I know it was mutual when we were young and I have a hunch that she still feels the same. Its like I put my feelings for her in the back of my mind and she has done the same. We'll see though, we'll see. ------------------
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EighthMoon
Knowflake Posts: 1400
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Registered: May 2007
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posted May 24, 2008 08:31 PM
Well, I thought looking up some people who were Caps and Cancer friends/past loves might make sense, since my Saturn is in Aries.The Cap and I were best friends for 4 years before we dated. We broke up and didn't see eachother for a few years. Saw eachother and dated again. We have lost touch now, but really were in synch. (Granted, our moons are conjunct.) The Cancer who's sun squares my Saturn and I were more like brother and sister...and fought like brother and sister. We dated in middle school (back when it was junior high school) and then hated eachother for a week, then he moved away. We visited him on family vacations. We both went to the same college, by coincidence, after 2 transfers. We dated for about 5 minutes. We were roommates our last few years (back to brother and sister). We still keep in touch and I consider him family. Don't have tension with either of them. I have tons of tension with Pluto squares and oppositions, but Saturn just feels a little familial or parental to me. Definitely binding! Just my 2 cents!  8th IP: Logged |
bvanzy
Knowflake Posts: 379
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posted May 24, 2008 09:24 PM
Well I think you've got the answer as to how the Saturn square Suns have affected you both so far. They've seriously delayed you two getting together.Good luck with it. IP: Logged |
Lana29865
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posted May 26, 2008 12:39 AM
How is the composite like?IP: Logged |
Got Gemini?
Knowflake Posts: 1037
From: Mercury
Registered: Jul 2007
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posted May 26, 2008 12:59 AM
I don't have her correct birth time. I'm guessing her Asc could be either Libra, Cancer, or Scorp. I'm leaning more towards Libra.------------------
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Lana29865
Knowflake Posts: 441
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Registered: Mar 2007
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posted May 26, 2008 06:04 AM
I asked because sometimes a tricky double whammie can turn into something easier/more constructive in a composite chart, which is what the two people actually create together... :-)
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