posted August 03, 2008 05:14 PM         

This is a situation which has been going on for several years now. I have tried to leave him many times, each time finding that I could not. I broke up with him again finally towards the end of last year, then things happened recently which caused me to pine for him and I have broke down emotionally several times, as it is quite a dilemma I am in. On one hand I feel that the best way to get over him would be to move away. But unfortunately it cannot be this straight forward, as we both have joint responsibility for our children. If I move away, I will only be able to see them at weekends (I can't drive them to school from where I would be as I don't have a car).

I am losing my mind over all this right now. I was wondering whether there is a reason, as far as our charts go, that I have been unable to let him go entirely for so long.

My DOB: (edited)

posted August 03, 2008 05:43 PM         

I think its all that 8th house stuff:
* pluto, mars, nn conj is incredibly tight and makes the situation galvinised.
* You also have moon-saturn aspects both ways (one squ, one conj) which adds a lot of permanence of emotion. I often see the square in permanent relationships even though its considered a "red alert" aspect.

* A few chiron aspects probably adding to sense of fatedness (as well as the saturn stuff I've just said)
* Pluto aspects with sun both ways - again adding to the inability to get away and tightness in a relationship
* Ura -nn conj - disruptive conditions maybe

Also your sun sits right on his DC - so he won't let go. YOur nep is also conj his sun - he probably thinks you are a dream. He also has issues of letting go.

And you like guy, jup and venus in your first. Maybe you mght see him as a bit paternalistic - saturn in the 1st and argumentative - mars in the 7th

posted August 03, 2008 06:35 PM         

But as this relationship has always been difficult...I do need to leave him...right? (You don't have to answer....I am just thinking out aloud).

A fortune teller also said the same thing about him not letting go, which I didn't find out was true until after....but she said I would have to let go.

An astrologer years ago told me that the relationship was a karmic one, as opposed to as twin soul one.

Anyway....I hope things will heal eventually.
(Please help me, God!).

posted August 03, 2008 06:51 PM         

Planets are not compelling you to do anything. Rather, planets tend to be MIRRORS of what's happening inside of you and around you. You still have free will on how you choose to live your life within its particular confines. How do you take control of your destiny?

posted August 04, 2008 04:34 AM         

It isn't a case though of leaving the same house as him....this was already done a while a go.....

Yes, I know I need to follow a different path in life to him....because even if we were frends who just saw each other now and then (which is how it was)....we would never have that really deep soul connection.

The hardest thing though, is that there are two children involved in this.

I feel so alone and torn....it's just agonizing right now.

I need to belong.

How long will the T-Saturn thing last?

posted August 04, 2008 11:46 PM         

You will be experiencing a Saturn return later this year, and with it, you will be forced to let go of illusions because the same T Saturn will also be squaring your Neptune. Not an easy time. Don't be surprise if you lose faith in your religion.

Other challenging aspects for the next 2 years will be T Pluto squaring your natal Venus, signifying power struggles in relationships. This will not be a good time to form stable relationships, though you might find yourself in very intense and passionate ones.

posted August 05, 2008 12:49 AM         

That Pluto trine Jupiter is going to be wonderful reward energy and may give you your faith back if it should temporarily drop in level, as it does for everyone at certain periods in life. But just remember that all that's required is "faith the size of a mustard seed" and I know you've got that.

Also, as far as feeling like the planets have you stuck in a karmic relationship, it sounds to me like the karma has been paid so you CAN move on. Also remember that the planets do nothing, people do.

Difficult aspects are just another form of lifting weights and different kind of weight resistance while all the time you are BUILDING SPIRITUAL MUSCLE so don't be afraid of those aspects or any difficult times in your life. Those rocks are there for your roots to push your flowery face out of the dirt to shine in the sun.

That's how it works because God is one mysterious dude.

You'll feel better once Saturn stops sitting on Mar's head, like boys play fighting.

Geocosmic Valentine

posted August 05, 2008 07:30 AM         

F*** them all.

Karma is a cop-out.

posted August 05, 2008 07:30 AM         

Does the universe/ matrix, only give to us
What we can handle?
Why then do I feel crushed
And in such pain
I'm losing my mind;
I've lost my mind.
I just want to feel
Some strong arms around me
But no, the matrix has
Left me all alone,
Cast me aside
With nowhere to run,
Or to hide.
Perhaps I am meant to suffer
Perhaps it is for a reason
Or perhaps my energy is needed.
A sacrifice upon life's altar.

posted August 05, 2008 07:51 AM         

F*** planets
F*** fate
F*** thinking and
F*** damn emotions!!!!!

posted August 05, 2008 08:11 AM         

I don't like this world.

But at least things won't always be like this, eh?

Perhaps a Time will come.....

posted August 05, 2008 10:12 AM         

You may not like this world but the planet LOVES you...
I agree though - I don't like people who **** all over other people either.