posted October 30, 2008 07:19 PM         

He has:

- Sun/Venus/Mercury/Uranus in Libra, in Third house;
- Moon/Mars in Aquarius, in 7th
- Neptune/Jupiter in Sagittarius, in 5th

posted October 31, 2008 02:19 PM         

Sun/Venus/Mercury in Gemini
Moon in Pisces
Ascendant in Cancer (it's conjunct with his by about 2 degrees)

I am a singleton Earth (Mars in Taurus) and Fire (Neptune in Sagittarius).

I like him as a friend, however, I can't help but think that I can never feel comfortable enough talking to him about mundane, everyday things for fear of boring him (he's very cerebral). Ironically, sometimes when we're talking he'll apologize for getting too "cerebral" and for "boring" me (he doesn't, btw). I have another Libra friend born on the same day as him and I feel much more comfortable with him. I think the following is the culprit:

Grand Cross with Moo: 22Pis14'57" to Mer: 29Gem27'39" to Jup: 0Lib26'42" to
Grand Cross with Moo: 22Pis14'57" to Mer: 29Gem27'39" to Sat: 3Lib03'02" to
T-Square from Moo: 22Pis14'57" to Mer: 29Gem27'39" and Nep: 23Sag56'54"
T-Square from Moo: 22Pis14'57" to Ven: 19Gem59'35" and Nep: 23Sag56'54"
T-Square from Mer: 29Gem27'39" to Moo: 22Pis14'57" and Jup: 0Lib26'42"
T-Square from Jup: 0Lib26'42" to Mer: 29Gem27'39" and Nep: 23Sag56'54"
T-Square from Sat: 3Lib03'02" to Mer: 29Gem27'39" and Nep: 23Sag56'54"
T-Square from Nep: 23Sag56'54" to Moo: 22Pis14'57" and Jup: 0Lib26'42"

posted October 31, 2008 02:50 PM         

In fact, it's twits on this website with questions like this that make me lose utter faith in astrology. I got *this* close recently to abandoning astrology because of this attitude. In fact, this type of stuff really disgusts me, this pigeonholing.

So there you go, I expressed emotions --> anger, disappointment, frustration and sadness.

And here's another one. My quad Pisces friend (Sun, Moon, Mercury and Venus) left me a card when she left her visit with me, here's an excerpt from the card:

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...thanks for all of your help with the dress shopping and emotional support in general....

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...have a nice day and thank you for ruining my morning.

posted October 31, 2008 03:02 PM         

and there isnt a label like " taurus / gemini = no emotions"

water signs are just naturally a bit over emotional (can be, this varies) and earth and air just arnt over emotional.

but all these signs and elements can get emotional.

its to do with aspects that can make you a bit un emotional though, take me.

i have a lot of earth, and fire, with a bit of air and water.

but all my moon is squared, and i have a grand square, my emotions arn't as in touch as everyone else, but iv still cried over things.

we all need to stop taking this all too seriously anyway.

posted October 31, 2008 03:05 PM         

I go by the ASC for emotions, not the Moon.

Sorry to hear your morning has been ruined 23, but your friend is obviously very happy with what you have given.

posted October 31, 2008 03:24 PM         

By saying ridiculous stuff like airy people have no emotions is like saying that we aren't functional human beings and we can't even understand the basics of human relationships and society. Well, guess what? Us airy people, we're all still here in this society functioning in an acceptable and suitable way!

So please drop this simplistic POPSTROLOGY or encouraging it. If you do, then go get yourself a copy of Cosmo magazine and read the stars there.

posted October 31, 2008 04:00 PM         

I do acknowledge that ALL humans feel emotions, however, some choose to express it more freely and others choose to repress it or deal with it in a more rational matter. I notice those who belong in the latter category tend to let their head rule their heart (not exactly a bad thing), which inhibit their emotional expression, and may come off as cold to someone who is more emotional. Again, I'm just speaking from my own experience and if this doesn't apply to you, please ignore what I just said. Also, from my own experience with people around me, I notice that Air moons are less emotional, water moons moreso. Water moons allow themselves to just BE emotions... which leads me to believe that they're able to experience emotions more vividly than air moons.

posted October 31, 2008 07:23 PM         

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And here's another one. My quad Pisces friend (Sun, Moon, Mercury and Venus) left me a card when she left her visit with me, here's an excerpt from the card:

quote:...thanks for all of your help with the dress shopping and emotional support in general....

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One thing about my Aqua moon friend is he's non-judgmental and a great listener which makes it easy for me to confide in him about my problems. Being an air moon, he is logical and a good problem-solver and is able to see the heart of the issue faster than I am.

Air moons can provide emotional support to water moons by offering solutions to their problems, however, unless there are other aspects in the chart to indicate otherwise - and I'm [u]strictly speaking from my own encounters only[/u] - air moons get scared/confused.. or be at loss for words when people get all emotional on them. Their first reaction is to a scenerio like this is usually, "that person is crazy", or, "that person makes no sense", or they just wanna get out. I even had a Gemini ex-coworker of mine (she's the epitome of a gemini) say this to me: "I'm a very logical person, I'm not emotional at all. It's the same reason why I can't stand emotional people - they are illogical and don't make any sense. I just can't connect with people like them."

Again, this is speaking from my own experience only.

Kick It:

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I go by the ASC for emotions, not the Moon.

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Why is that?

Note to all: Some of you may have studied astrology for a long time and have had the opportunity to make mistakes and move on. This is all rather new to me. I learn mainly through forums (Lindaland, tribe.net, node-o-rama), cafeastrology, astrology-numerology, and skyviewzone (for synastry), and use them in interpreting the charts of friends and family. Astrology has been very informative in helping me understand the motives and actions of people around me. While it's obvious that I have crossed some people by making a general assumption, I hope you all can understand that my goal here is to learn and get answers, not to personally attack anyone.

posted November 01, 2008 08:19 AM         

There's a planetary Water Void, but Cancer is on the Ascendant and so the Moon rules the chart.

I would recommed Janis Huntley's excellent book "Astrological Voids" for gaining a greater understanding of voids on the chart ~ she covers elements, polarities, qualities, and unaspected planets.

In it she says of elemental voids:

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These voids are resonably common. My sample of 400 charts revealed 79 elemental voids

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The position of the outer planets is going to be part of the explanation, as she points out. Think about it, it makes sense.

Bob Marks does a decent job on Element Voids. For water, he gives two examples, one of whom has a Water Ascendant, like the example you have here.

http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/EmptyElement12.1.htm

Like me, too.

posted November 01, 2008 08:32 AM         

The information here is sparse but I'd say he has a substantial understanding of emotion. He probably cares more about other people's feelings that his own.

Aquarius is the Water Carrier, it carries emotion, it doesn't immerse in it. The Moon is in this sign, and like I say, rules the chart.

I don't think he has a Passive Void.

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But with so much air and literally no earth/water

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"Literally" ~ wrong word. He has an Earth planet.

But I see your point ~ that's not much for passive signs. BUT I agree with Kick It in regards to the importance of the Ascendant, here in Cancer. Don't discount it.

You might like this from Janis Huntley's book on a person with a passive void:

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The subject has learned most of the lessons of the passive quality during past lifetimes, and therefore does not need to be introspective, emotional or quiet within his present lifetime.

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posted November 01, 2008 08:37 AM         

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I go by the ASC for emotions, not the Moon.

Why is that?

Note to all: Some of you may have studied astrology for a long time and have had the opportunity to make mistakes and move on. This is all rather new to me. I learn mainly through forums (Lindaland, tribe.net, node-o-rama), cafeastrology, astrology-numerology, and skyviewzone (for synastry), and use them in interpreting the charts of friends and family. Astrology has been very informative in helping me understand the motives and actions of people around me. While it's obvious that I have crossed some people by making a general assumption, I hope you all can understand that my goal here is to learn and get answers, not to personally attack anyone.

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Im looking for answers too Yinyang.

Ive done work on as astrology and decided the best way to do it is using house rulers. Work from the outside in. Which means...Mercury = communication style, Sun = Ego and all that rubbish is just rubbish to me.

Why 1st house for emotions?
When reading into this subject at the start, the ASC is described in about 20 different ways: personality, ego, how you view life, looks, how you react to your environment....
that last one of note.

How you react to your environment normally has rulership over the Moon. As I dont use the Moon for silly stuff like that, I put reacting to your environment as the ASC. It seems more of a personality trait to react to something.
I guess that can come across as saying your personality and "emotions" are either the same thing or both under that heading as individual functions.

posted November 01, 2008 03:17 PM         

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...may come off as cold to someone who is more emotional. Again, I'm just speaking from my own experience and if this doesn't apply to you, please ignore what I just said. Also, from my own experience with people around me, I notice that Air moons are less emotional, water moons moreso. Water moons allow themselves to just BE emotions...

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Well yes, you're right there but that doesn't mean that we have NO emotions, we Air moons probably don't express them in the best way like water moons (except Sco Moon).

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Air moons can provide emotional support to water moons by offering solutions to their problems, however, unless there are other aspects in the chart to indicate otherwise - and I'm [u]strictly speaking from my own encounters only[/u] - air moons get scared/confused.. or be at loss for words when people get all emotional on them. Their first reaction is to a scenerio like this is usually, "that person is crazy", or, "that person makes no sense", or they just wanna get out. I even had a Gemini ex-coworker of mine (she's the epitome of a gemini) say this to me: "I'm a very logical person, I'm not emotional at all. It's the same reason why I can't stand emotional people - they are illogical and don't make any sense. I just can't connect with people like them."

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Yes, ditto above. Probably not the best expression. I can't deny your observations, there must a level of truth there for that person/those people (not how I would act myself) but that's because they don't understand the expression of it, not the actual emotion I think. They simply aren't comfortable with that expression.

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When an element is missing in a horoscope, it may mean that certain traits are weak. But it may also mean that the person just doesn’t consider them important. Sometimes this could lead to overcompensation. The person knows that there is a weakness and tries to overcome it. For instance, lack of planets in Earth Signs could just mean the ideals are so high that they may never be capable of being realized on Earth. Or that there is a lack of concern with practical, day-to-day matters.

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posted November 03, 2008 03:44 PM         

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His chart ~ you've missed out Saturn. Where is Saturn and what is it doing?

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Saturn is in Gemini, in the 11th house and forms two hard aspects (oppositions) with Neptune and Jupiter. It trines Sun, Moon, Mercury, Venus, Mars, Pluto, Uranus.

He has many, many friends but only few know him well (he admitted this). He dislikes people who are guarded but is quite guarded himself which I suspect is due to his Aqua moon. He's a mentor and friend to many but has trouble sharing his problems - he prefers to "take it all in".