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Topic: Can you tell if one is your soul mate through astrology?
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ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 5672
From: Infinity
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted November 10, 2008 08:52 PM
 
Thought: I don't think astrology is enough to say whether or not we are "meant" to be together....it can only represent the energies present in the journey; whether that be for karmic reasons or simply soul growth.I am interested to hear your thoughts on this. IP: Logged |
Kick It
Knowflake Posts: 1032
From: Leeds
Registered: May 2008
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posted November 10, 2008 09:02 PM
Yeah, its possible. I worked out how to find the date when your partner was born and then go find them after doing that. Finding this date can bring up a few options which makes it ideal when comparing to your natal chart. The good/bad thing about this....you find out when your partner is born and thats good for you, but if the idea doesnt work with other persons chart, its mainly good for you, rather than both.
The good thing is that if you find that person and they have the chart that matches yours, it would be indicative of something unique and not repeated with another chart. Something that would point ot having a "one" or "soulmate" I think the movies and women call it.IP: Logged |
ListensToTrees
Knowflake Posts: 5672
From: Infinity
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted November 10, 2008 10:40 PM
What do you have to do to work out this date?IP: Logged |
librasunleomoon
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posted November 11, 2008 12:07 AM
i firmly believe that you absolutely cannot. astrology is interesting but to reduce the human heart and emotions to a series of calculations is degrading. once i met someone i had quite literally the ideal chart with. yet that special something was never there although friendship was nice enough. a friend who had the most loving in love marriage id ever heard of had a very mundane chart with her husband. the people i have fallen in love with often have very average or even bad charts with me. but i would just know when the emotions are strong enough to go beyond the chart.IP: Logged |
librasunleomoon
Knowflake Posts: 187
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posted November 11, 2008 12:09 AM
another reason is astrology interpretations label some partner aspects as bad and some as good. it is not like that in reality. what might be unstable for one couple might be the kind of flexibility another couple needs. what might be too possesive for one pair might be the intensity another pair needs. another reason that its impossible to simply count and list the good and bad aspects of a partner chart of any kind and expect to get answers. IP: Logged |
Iqhunk
Knowflake Posts: 2269
From: Chennai
Registered: Oct 2005
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posted November 11, 2008 04:03 AM
You can apply true love/soul mate checks using astrology if and only if the meeting is uncalculated and by chance.
www.tamsoft.co.in/soulmates.html ------------------
http://www.tamsoft.co.in/articles.html IP: Logged |
blue moon
Moderator Posts: 4700
From: U.K
Registered: Dec 2007
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posted November 11, 2008 04:28 AM
That's about it LTT, you put it so well, there's nothing much to say other than that I agree with you.
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darkdreamer
Knowflake Posts: 3991
From: Germany
Registered: Aug 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 06:05 AM
IQ,you modified your rules, didn`t you?
You`re allowing 5° orb now? Also, if you say conjunction or trine to True NOde, you mean NN, not SN, right? And Isaw you mentioned the asteroid Angel. What would it mean if someone`s Angel was exactly conjunct my Sun; some kind of positive influence? IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 3274
From: London
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 06:32 AM
I think its too wide an orb... and i think 50 might be too low as a total score cos its so easy to hit  IP: Logged |
deuxantares
Knowflake Posts: 1197
From: Meet Me in Sofia
Registered: Nov 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 06:50 AM
DDI think the 5deg orb is just for "preliminary" screening. After that, he says to look for below 3deg orbs. I find it uncanny that my Angel asteroid conjuncts my guy's Venus (2deg). Seeing that he has Chiron in 7th, I think my Angel is in perfect placement vis a vis his Venus. IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
Knowflake Posts: 3991
From: Germany
Registered: Aug 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 07:18 AM
Yes, the 5° orb is only for the prelimnary rule, I noticed that.But I agree with Lara, the overall score of 50 is pretty easy to hit. Just look at my synastry with the "usual suspect": Rule 1 and 2:
my ASC conjunct his ASC
my ASC conjunct his Juno
his ASC conjunct my True Node (0°)
his ASC conjunct my Mars my True Node conjunct his Venus
For the calculation (with 3° orb)
10 points:
my Moon trine his Saturn
my Karma conjunct his Saturn (0)
my Eros trine his Eros (0)
(my Juno conjunct his Eros 3°05)
(my Mars conjunct his Juno 3°06)
(my Saturn trine his Eros 3°06)
his Mars conjunct my Valentine 4 aspects in that category equals 40 points
5 points:
my Psyche conjunct his Amor
his Moon conjunct my Union
his ASC conjunct my True Node (0)
his Juno conjunct my Amor (0)
his Venus conjunct my True Node
(his Mars conjunct my Amor 3°07)
equals 25 points
3 points:
my Venus conjuncts his Sun
my Mars sextile his Pluto (0)
his ASC conjunct my Angel
his ASC sextile my Pluto (0)
equals 12 points
which gives us an overall score of 77 points. It appears pretty much to me. Just was too easy to reach that score.
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Lara
Knowflake Posts: 3274
From: London
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 07:45 AM
I can hit 50 without even using the AC lol(10 points each)
moon trine juno (3)
saturn trine eros (0)
eros sextile psyche (2)
eros trine saturn (1)
juno trine moon (3)
juno trine venus (1)
juno trine saturn (2)
venus sextile mars (3)
mars sextile saturn (0)
NN sextile mars (0)
NN trine juno (1)
NN trine eros (2)
120 (5 points)
amor sextile amor (0)
amor trine karma (3)
amor sextile moon (0)
union trine saturn (2)
union trine NN (2)
25 (3 points)
angel trine moon (0)
angel sextile venus (1)
angel trine NN (5)
angel sextile psyche (2)
angel trine angel (2)
15 120+25+15 = 160 LOL!!!!
and im not even using AC's!!!!! IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
Knowflake Posts: 3991
From: Germany
Registered: Aug 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 08:20 AM
Lara,well IQ said your man MUST marry you, didn`t he?  Ah do you have a Moon-Juno-dw or have you counted the Moon-Juno-trine twice? IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 3274
From: London
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 08:30 AM
yes he did
The silly man won't though cos he's got a hang up over my kids  we have a DW juno/moon, juno/venus, juno/saturn, juno/NN (although saturn one has a quincunx and NN one is out of orb) The juno/moon l listed l did twice
oops! Its meant to be juno trine moon and moon square juno!... so make it 150 LOL Still think the orbs or something are too wide for me to get such a huge total, and you even got a big total! IP: Logged |
deuxantares
Knowflake Posts: 1197
From: Meet Me in Sofia
Registered: Nov 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 08:33 AM
I agree.
What do you think is a reasonable minimum score? 75? 100? quote:
You can apply true love/soul mate checks using astrology if and only if the meeting is uncalculated and by chance.
What does uncalculated and by chance mean?
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CoralFrequency
Knowflake Posts: 1432
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Registered: Feb 2007
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posted November 11, 2008 08:36 AM
lol I got 98. Ya, maybe the bar should be higher.LTT, I'm not so sure you can. I think I'm with LibraLeomoon IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
Knowflake Posts: 3991
From: Germany
Registered: Aug 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 08:40 AM
I actually think the orbs are fairly okay, 3° is a good orb with 2° for sextile.Maybe I personally would leave out the sextile and focus on trine and conjunction (what I even did in the synastry with Jude for the 10 points scale, just forgot about the sextiles. lol).
But I`d say the overall score should be higher. I am not sure exactly HOW high.
But maybe 100?
Also, it would be important to look at which planets and asteroids make the connections.
A synastry with a lot of Saturn or Mars action may feel different than one based on Juno and Valentine I think.
Also, some aspects would belong in several categories:
Example:
Mars conjunct Valentine It could be counted in the 10 points category, but also in the 3 points category. What do we do with this? I counted it once in the 10 points category, but left it out in the lowest category. But I really think I`d like to see 100 points or more, but of course this would have to be researched at several synastries. Also, Lara, maybe it can be that you and this man are just extraordinarily well matched,c ouldn`t i t? IP: Logged |
darkdreamer
Knowflake Posts: 3991
From: Germany
Registered: Aug 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 08:42 AM
BTW I do not necessarily think that you can label / find your soulmate that way.
But this method is pretty useful in looking at the important connections and to see what quality / character the connection would have.IP: Logged |
deuxantares
Knowflake Posts: 1197
From: Meet Me in Sofia
Registered: Nov 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 08:45 AM
quote:
Also, maybe it can be that you and this man are just extraordinarily well matched,c ouldn`t it?
But his FREE WILL overrides the great chemistry/synastry between you two. IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 3274
From: London
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 08:45 AM
maybe you are right and we are just very well matched!I like the sextiles though... l think it's a worthy aspect. I'm gonna work on the degree of my AC now... might push my total to 200 lol
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darkdreamer
Knowflake Posts: 3991
From: Germany
Registered: Aug 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 08:48 AM
Lara,I don`t think you can use your ASC-degree, as you don`t know for sure what your ASC is. The chances t hat you find the right one are pretty slim, unfortunately, and it would distort the result. I also think that the synastry only shows the chemistry that is there, but if you or he act upon it is a matter of free will as Deuxantares said. Free will and progressed synastry.  IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 3274
From: London
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 08:56 AM
quote:
But his FREE WILL overrides the great chemistry/synastry between you two.
yes, totally although the chemistry makes it harder, MUCH harder to actually end what we have. heaven knows i've tried on several occasions and he just won't let me! and l don't want to anyway... lol IP: Logged |
belgz
Knowflake Posts: 719
From: sydney
Registered: Feb 2007
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posted November 11, 2008 08:56 AM
I think regardless of the millions of great aspects it doesnt mean your destined to be together forever. some people are lucky and stay together throughout thick and think i think this is based on your natal chart and how you and the other person is in general.I could meet my soul mate but will probably end up dumping him one day because i will be attracted to someone else later down the track. Im human as if in this day and age we can make it forever? Years ago when our grandparents got married they wrnt allowed as much freedom as us and they had a different ideology to us. Majority of us now dont take noones sh*t and therefore theres more arguements and alot of people degrade themselves and sleep with people who arnt available. With all the excitement and fun going on in the world even though we all long to find our true soul mate we may indeed have a few of them which all fulfill different purposes in our lives.. ------------------
Sun.. Cancer Moon.. Gemini Mars.. Cancer Mercury.. Cancer Venus.. Leo Ascendant....... Virgo IP: Logged |
Diandra23
Knowflake Posts: 2240
From: portugal
Registered: Mar 2007
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posted November 11, 2008 08:57 AM
I can say that from my personal experience,Astrology can CONFIRM that a person is our soulmate ( one of them at least).
I dont believe in a sincere love when a person just "chooses" a partner based on a chart comparison though...that would make someone just an "experience" and would be just an object to "validate" the chart comparison made " a priori"...
I have seen many here who asks for "who´s the best" but without really knowing the person,and simply chooses a partner by what astrology says.
It doesnt work that way.. I met my partner and felt sth very beautiful.I let time pass and when we knew each other better,i asked his data and i started to study astrlogy further.
It was when IQ made me look into asteroids that i better understood how our energies matched each other.
But i already were in love with him and vice-versa. IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 3274
From: London
Registered: Mar 2006
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posted November 11, 2008 09:18 AM
Well said Belgz I think it depends too on where the soul mate is at. Mike, in NYC was def a soul mate of mine yet he was too emotionally immature to be my actual soul mate in this lifetime... plus circumstances proved to be out of our realm. Same with his Leo/Aqua guy... he doesn't want the burden of other's kids. I seem to have a habit of attracting serious soul mates to me. My youngest sons dad was a corker... even DD said "outstanding synastry" and yet the guy is a d1ck. He is unable to hold down a relationship without cheating and l will never go back to that! Same with my ex husband - great soul mate synastry and yet he is violent and insecure beyond belief. Yet, l believe these types of soul mates are karmic ones... they teach us our lessons by acting them out with us and l certainly have learnt heaps of lessons from these 4 alone. So not all lost IP: Logged |
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