posted December 03, 2008 12:20 AM         

Like: my Venus is in dark, deep Scorpio, but my Descendant is in airy, detached Aquarius. I want to keep those boundaries between myself and a person I consider a partner, but my Scorpio Venus wants to get in there, probe, and claim what's 'rightfully mine'. It gets really difficult to decide my course of action.

posted December 03, 2008 12:44 AM         

It is hard to integrate.

But then I think maybe it is already integrated, actually. It's just trying to spell it out to someone that makes it difficult, or trying to define it makes it sound at odds...maybe you're not at odds. I'm only at odds when I think about it extensively. Nature isn't consistent, neither are we. We're human.
What human being doesn't want SOME kind of boundary to retain individuality from time to time? I can't imagine...

I guess I just answered my own question LOL...but I'm wondering if I've answered yours.

posted December 03, 2008 01:27 PM         

I WISH I knew how to balance these. All my fire wants to plow right into things, whereas my earth is like: "No! Stop! That's a bad idea!" I end up being very inconsistant as a result.

posted December 03, 2008 03:52 PM         

my chart, I'm very impatient (thanks to Aries Mars and IC)

and independent. But I feel so conflicted constantly thanks

to my Pisces moon which is sextile Neptune, Uranus and

Saturn.

Another factor are midpoints and where the majority are

located. The majority of midpoints in my chart are in

the 3rd house in Pisces (where my moon is located), and

in the 5th house. I have a tendency to think about

communication and daily interaction with others after the

matter, like I'm re-living the interaction in my head. I take

communication with others far more seriously than others,

for example if I talk to someone I like, I suddenly feel like

I know them just by having a conversation with them, and

then always feel disapointed because it was just a light

and casual conversation to them, when it was far more to

me (this explains the conflicting issues with having

Gemini Venus with a Leo Sun in the intense 8th house).

posted December 03, 2008 06:52 PM         

Your replies are all very insightful.

posted December 03, 2008 09:42 PM         

Like you, I've definitely had fear involved in my emotions. Venus square Saturn can abuse, but it can also manifest as people abandoning you in your relationships, which I've definitely experienced.

posted December 03, 2008 10:03 PM         

The funny thing is, he grated on my nerves very easily in the beginning. I felt that he was attempting to get much too involved in the relationship I was in (me + ex) when I first met him. But it's strange now. It was hard for me to accept that I had feelings for him when I started to realize it. This was happening well after my former relationship. (lol) And now that these feelings won't go away, I'm just going to accept it.

posted December 04, 2008 03:42 PM         

What's the rest of your chart like? I have the same placements as you.. Venus in Scorpio with an Aquarius Descendant.

(I also have Sun in Sag opposite Moon in Gemini - talk about inner conflict :P)

I totally get what you're saying.. the last long-term relationship I was in I pretty much favoured one part of myself, only to have lost touch with the rest of me! Since we broke up I've been trying to recover all of the pieces!

posted December 04, 2008 04:13 PM         

my chart is kinda weird. a LOT of fixed energy going on and no cardinal except for my pluto. so all the fixed stuff (sun, moon, chiron, mercury, mars, jupiter, uranus) is sort of at odds with the other fixed stuff, the Tsquare, and i find i have to be really careful because all that fixed energy makes me feel like doing absolutely NOTHING until i've figured everything out (other than daily life stuff). it's like i'm trying to resolve all of the different energies BEFORE i do anything. guess that is a lack of cardinality too.

as for my self in relationships, i have aquarius sun, sag rising and venus, gem dc, so you'd think my approach to relationships is all about fun and whimsey and intellectual rapport.. it's so true, but i also have taurus moon in the 4th exactly opposed scorpio uranus, and my NN and saturn are in the 8th, and my SN is in pisces, so really deep down i'm very romantic and possessive and in this lifetime i'm supposed to learn to really let go and have a deep and thorough intimacy, but my aqua and sag stuff makes me feel all bouncy and like i want to keep things silly all the time, and when things start to get deep, my brain gets confused and if i don't just turn it off and let go into my feelings, i get anxious. i'm involved with a scorpio moon with venus aqua though, so he's kind of similar in that respect and most of the time we are on the same page and adapt to one another and sometimes we're all about the silly, sometimes we're very deep and intimate, so thank goodness for that! he also has a lot of cardinality, which helps a lot and breaks me out of stagnation.

posted December 04, 2008 04:39 PM         

im cursed to have a grand square.

it makes all my aspects so negative.

i have soo many oppositions n squares, i only have a well aspected pluto.

posted December 04, 2008 06:50 PM         

heart cakes - I've got plenty of cardinal and fixed in my chart. Only my Jupiter is in mutable Virgo (the last degree, too). I don't remember the last time I finished a project.

This is my chart.