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Topic: Midpoint Info From HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS
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Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 2821 From: Sacramento,California,USA Registered: Jul 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 12:32 PM
I want to share some midpoint information from Robert Hand's book, HOROSCOPE SYMBOLSI added my aspects,midpoints for examples. Orbs: Direct midpoint pictures (conjunction,opposition) - 1'30 Indirect midpoint pictures(square,semisquare,sesquiquadrate) - 1'00 Rules for Delineating Midpoints:
When reading a chart, one uses midpoints mainly to give additional information about the cosmic state of each planet. Thus the midpoints I look for first are those attached to individual factors in the chart. Only when I am interested in finding out more about a specific issue will I look at midpoint axes that are no occupied by a single factor. In a few cases, such axes will be the focus of a number of midpoints will therefore have importance. The effects of individual midpoints will be seen most clearly when they are set off by dynamic factors such as transits,solar arc directions,or progressions. Not all midpoints are to be taken equally. Here are the criteria I use for picking out the important ones. 1.Midpoints involving Sun,Moon,Midheaven,Ascendant taken more seriously than others. One or both factors making up the midpoint may come from this group, or the midpoint may be in a hard aspect to one of these factors. for example: Sun square Pluto/Midheaven - '42
2. Direct midpoints---ones that are conjunct or opposite a single factor are more important than midpoints that aspect a single factor by square,semisquare,or sesquiquadrate. I find that direct midpoints are as important as major aspects in influencing the chart. One neglects them at one's own peril;if you use no other type of midpoint, use these for example: Venus conjunct Sun/Jupiter - '01 Uranus oppose Mars/Saturn - '13 3. Midpoints of single points that also happen to be in aspect to each other are more intense and sensitive than those where the two single points are not in aspect. Even relatively minor aspects should be considered,and also those that would ordinarily seem out of orb. I think this phenomenon is responsible for the large orbs other astrologers often get away with on major aspects. In a T-Square, grand cross,grand trine,or other aspect pattern that is also a midpoint configuration, one often sees orbs that are larger than 5 degrees, and yet the aspect still seems to operate strongly. I find invariably that the midpoint of one or more of the pairs of planets involved closely aspects one or more of the other factors by a hard angle. This ties the factors together in a way that no large-orbed major aspect could. One should always check those major aspect patterns to determine whether or not the midpoints they form are in close aspect to one or more of the factors in the aspect pattern. for example of midpoints of single points that also happen to be in aspect to each other being more intense and sensitive than those where the two single points are not in aspect: Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune - '17 Moon square Neptune - 1'22 Moon square Saturn - 1'56 Saturn oppose Neptune - 3'19
for example for a relatively minor aspects: Mars oppose Mercury/Saturn - '50 Mercury triundecile Mars - '37 Mercury quinqueundecile Saturn - '25 Mars triundecile Saturn - 1'02 for example of wide orbed aspect(over the 5 degree orb that Robert Hand recommends in his book,HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS) that is viewed as valid because of its effect due to being part of a midpoint picture Moon conjunct Mars - 7'16 Mars semisquare Moon/Mercury - '08 Moon semisquare Mars/Midheaven - '23 Uranus semisquare Moon/Mars - '45 4. With midpoints as with any other worthwhile technique, a theme should be repeated several times in a chart it is to be taken seriously. Possibly the one exception to this is direct midpoint combinations,but data from these should,like any other indication,still be checked against the rest of the chart. for example: Neptune in 3rd 3rd house ruler(Pluto)sextile Neptune Mercury parallel Neptune - '33 Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune - '13 Mars square Mercury/Neptune - '49 Neptune semisquare Mercury/Ascendant - '54 In regards to major themes:
Aspect patterns(aka Harmonic Syndromes)can definitely show a major theme in a chart. Direct midpoints can show major theme in a chart Indirect midpoints can add to a theme that's in a chart to reveal a major theme. Raymond
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Peri Moderator Posts: 2700 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 09, 2008 01:06 PM
my progressed asc and moon will conj my sun/moon midpoint next year, what do you think it might mean? IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 2821 From: Sacramento,California,USA Registered: Jul 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 01:24 PM
It could indicate significant relationship..........especially if activated by transitI have solar arc Mars square my Sun/Moon midpoint right now, and it will be activated by transiting Pluto,Jupiter,and Mars. A secondary progression nor a solar arc picture won't manifest as an event unless it's activated by a transit to it.
That's what I read from Cosmobiology books and been told by some Uranian astrologers. Raymond
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Peri Moderator Posts: 2700 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 09, 2008 02:02 PM
thanks, Raymond, Ive got transiting Pluto sextile my natal Sun/Moon midpoint.IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 2821 From: Sacramento,California,USA Registered: Jul 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 03:29 PM
Only conjunction,opposition,square,semisquare,andsesquiquadrate tend to be used with midpoints. They are said to be the aspects that involve events. The soft aspects are said to be indicator of psychological conditions.but....if it works for you, then fine. I find that hard set rules can be questioned just like I am questioning things in mainstream astrology. another thing...I believe that midpoint to midpoint oppositions and conjunctions are valid. Those are actually harmonic quads. I would use no more than 1 degree orb but focus more on ones within half a degree. I have Sun/Mercury conjunct Jupiter/Uranus with 3 minutes of arc.
I am checking out midpoint transits to natal midpoints for instance transiting Jupiter/Uranus is conjuncting my Moon/Node,transiting Jupiter/Pluto conjuncting my Moon/Venus,and transiting Pluto/Node conjuncting my Moon/Jupiter simultaneously right now. They seem significant..especially when both natal midpoints involving the Moon. Only time will tell I am going to start a transit journal to record events that can be in synchronicity and fit the symbolism of the planets,points involved in transit. I am going to include solar arc and secondary progression. The Jupiter/Uranus conjunct Moon/Node is exact on Dec 13th. The Jupiter/Pluto conjunct Moon/Venus is exact on Dec 11th. The Pluto/Node conjunct Moon/Jupiter is exact on Jan 28th. I will keep track of those dates. I believe that the Hamburg School/Uranian Astrology use of midpoint-midpoint pictures are valid...especially with their being based on harmonics. http://www.astrosoftware.com/ArabicParts.htm http://www.astrosoftware.com/Symmetries.htm
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Peri Moderator Posts: 2700 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 09, 2008 03:39 PM
aha so i have to look for opposition,square,semisquare,sesquiquadrate aspectsIP: Logged |
missneptune Knowflake Posts: 273 From: Portland, OR, USA Registered: Feb 2006
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posted December 09, 2008 04:20 PM
This is a great book, I own it!IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 2821 From: Sacramento,California,USA Registered: Jul 2006
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posted December 10, 2008 10:38 AM
I just want to add something.Solar Arcs,Secondary Progressions can be triggered by transiting Ascendant,Midheaven,Moon,Mercury......it doesn't have to be a transit from Sun,Venus and the slower stuff. So there are actually many opportunities for a solar arc,secondary progression picture to be activated which can manifest as an event. a Uranian astrologer friend of mine that I chat with on irc told me that.
Raymond
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missneptune Knowflake Posts: 273 From: Portland, OR, USA Registered: Feb 2006
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posted December 10, 2008 04:05 PM
I also read in this book that let's say for example you have a Yod in your chart, that you should look at the midpoints between the two quincunx planets and the sextile. I calculated these midpoints, and I noticed that Mercury quincunx Moon midpoint is in Taurus in the 5th house and Sun quincunx Neptune is Libra in the 10th house, and the midpoint between the Moon and Neptune is in Aquarius in the 2nd house. The actual Yod is pointing to the 8th house, with the 1st and 3rd Houses included. What do you think the midpoints suggest?------------------ Sun - Leo Moon - Pisces Ascendant - Sagittarius IP: Logged |
Glaucus Knowflake Posts: 2821 From: Sacramento,California,USA Registered: Jul 2006
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posted December 10, 2008 11:51 PM
Yep........geometrical aspect patterns = midpoint pictures the 2 planets in sextile are the base of the yod....the near direct midpoint of the 2 is the point that is semisextile both. so if a planet is semisextile both, it's conjunct the midpoint of the 2 planets.
the 3rd planet that is the apex is at the far direct midpoint of the 2 planets, and that means that it opposes the midpoint of the 2 planets in sextile If it's a tight orbed yod..especially an exact one, then each planet that is in sextile will be sesquiquadrate the midpoint of the other planet that is in sextile and the planet in quincunx for example
Neptune in Sagittarius sextile Pluto in Libra, and they are quincunx Sedna in Taurus for a yod. Sedna(the apex) oppose Neptune/Pluto(base) midpoint Pluto sesquiquadrate Neptune/Sedna midpoint Neptune sesquiquadrate Pluto/Sedna midpoint a perfect 3 point symmetrical geometrical aspect pattern like a grand trine,minor grand trine,yod,thors' hammer, t-square will have 3 corresponding midpoint pictures.
it would be easier for me to understand the question, if you let me see the chart. I do better with visuals.
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