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Topic: Can someone read our charts to see if we will get back together........
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sinderlou Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2007
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posted December 16, 2008 10:52 AM
I am totally crushed...........my bf and i split up and it has been 6 weeks,,,,,,,,i have cried everyday and have started seeing a therapist,,,,,,,,can someone please read our charts and tell me what can be happening......i am stuck.......i feel like i cannot move on...........this has never before happened in a breakup.......i truely feel like was in love for the first time in my life and i felt it so strongly from him...i keep feeling there is this connection that is still there.......i need to know if i am going crazy to still feel this though we are apart....March 12, 1964 8:23 pm born pittsburgh pa him July 2, 1974 7:30am hundred west virginia It has been a while since i have been here...i feel like i have been truely going thru the ringer....any help is appreciated more than you know...thanks much.... IP: Logged |
alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 581 From: Europe Registered: Jun 2007
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posted December 16, 2008 11:40 AM
SINDERLOU - I remember you - we had a "talk" about this relationship over here in another thread, a while ago. I'll come back to your charts again, if I manage to find the time to look at them again in a moment of silence and concentration. For the moment I just want to say: I feel sorry for you! And want to send you as much strength as can be delivered telepathically.;-) No, really: I remember how strongly you felt for this guy. I also remember that the chart-combination was not easy in all aspects ... Go on with that therapist, talk, talk, talk if that helps you. Hugs from afar! (I know it may sound shallow, but maybe you remember how devastated I was myself during spring and summer. My heartbreak lasted for almost 7 months. No matter how long it takes: One day it will stop. And the relief is unbelievable, one really feels like "newborn". I know this doesn't help while you still feel that pain and still hope for a renunication. All I wanna say is: You're gonna make it, no matter what outcome - okay?) All the best for now!IP: Logged |
alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 581 From: Europe Registered: Jun 2007
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posted December 16, 2008 11:40 AM
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Peri Moderator Posts: 2773 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 16, 2008 11:44 AM
here is your chart:progressed venus is conj natal sun, that is why it feels like the love of your life; pr. uranus trine natal venus, i bet you fell in love pretty quickly? progressed chiron on natal mars (R7) transiting Uranus on natal Sun (sudden changes) transiting Chiron on Pholus (intense pain over the loss) transiting Juno on natal asteroid humptydumpty (the asteroid of break-ups)break-up with your parter transiting humptydumpty conjunct asteroid karma (i think it was meant to happen) pluto on ceres (deeply affected by loss and separation, nurturance was withheld or denied) venus conj NN on vesta (you are deeply committed and are capable of great sacrifice for the sake of your partner) seems quite a painful thing you are going through his chart: tr. Uranus conj natal Juno (sudden, unexpected change in a relationship) tr Pallas on Venus (i am not sure about Pallas, they say shows your approach to solving problems, or represents the denial of one's own gender in an effort to cope with situations that require the skills of the opposite gender in order to survive, as well as the struggle to rediscover and reconnect with essential qualities of one's own sex) tr Jupiter will soon conj DSC (has he decided just to walk away and find someone else?) progressed Pallas on DSC (hmm, dunno) progressed Moon conj Ceres suqare Juno (pain of separation, devastation by the loss of partner) hmm i dont know what was the reason of your break up, maybe he decided he needed complete freedom to pursue his creative expression or something like that? Anyway it is clear, this relationship is more about your transformation and change and it is karmic too so you need to think what this experience/situation can teach you about yourself, your self-love and self-acceptance....sorry i did not mean to get you in for a lecture but this is what helped me to get through intense pain when i lost someone i loved deeply... i dont know how it is possible ... i took a tarot deck to pull a card for you... and Lovers fell out...so maybe you will make up?
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alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 581 From: Europe Registered: Jun 2007
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posted December 16, 2008 11:52 AM
PERI: This is interesting, how you describe asteroid "Humptydumpty". I always had a more general explanation in mind, like "irretreivable change". But, in regard to relationships, your simple description is probably right to the point. I'll keep that in mind, thanks.IP: Logged |
alvarella777 Knowflake Posts: 581 From: Europe Registered: Jun 2007
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posted December 16, 2008 11:52 AM
P.S. to Peri: Do you think that asteroid WHITERABBIT is similar in its quality? Similar to HUMPTYDUMPTY? That's also something I always have in mind...IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 2773 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 16, 2008 12:38 PM
Alvarella, why would it be similar to humptydumpty?A white rabbit can symbolize the awakening of spirit or a symbol for easter and resurrection; also there is an expression in russian 'white and fluffy' heh, it means as sweet/nice as can be, so in my opinion WhiteRabbit has nothing to do with break-ups. IP: Logged |
sinderlou Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2007
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posted December 16, 2008 12:44 PM
Oh peri thank you for your time the first moment i met him i said,,,i feel like i am suppose to meet you and he said I feel the same,,like there is more to this than just a regular relationship
avella i look forward to your chart.........i am glad u remembered me...i have been in the darkest place in my life....long story short i almost took my life...i am trying very hard....i need hope...something that is real..... IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 2773 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 16, 2008 12:46 PM
oh god, sinderlou, please be strong love and light to you IP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4262 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 16, 2008 01:18 PM
Sinderlou,I`m so sorry for you. But I second what Peri said, please be strong. I know it just sounds like silly superficial crap, if I tell you that even the dark times will end, but it`s true. Really, they do. I have been in such a dark place myself, long ago, and I thought this pain would never end, but eventually it did. An it will for you, too. Peri,
it`s interesting I never heard of Humptydumpty before. Why does that asteroid symbolize breakup? However, I looked it up and when I experienced my deepest and worst loss (in love) up to now, progressed HumptyDumpty on 10°09`48 Sagittarius was conjunct my True Node on 10°09`48 Sagittarius. It was exact to the last SECOND! So, I guess this heartbreak was important for my lifepath, and of course it was (in retrospective). IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 2773 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 16, 2008 01:48 PM
quote: Humpty Dumpty sat on a wall, Humpty Dumpty had a great fall; And all the king's horses and all the king's men Couldn't put Humpty together again.
it think it describes its influence pretty accurately ps Ive got humptydumpty conj venus and mars arghhh
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deuxantares Knowflake Posts: 1265 From: Meet Me in Sofia Registered: Nov 2006
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posted December 16, 2008 01:56 PM
What is HD's asteroid number? *too lazy* Sinderlou IP: Logged |
sinderlou Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2007
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posted December 16, 2008 02:02 PM
thank you for your kind words dark dreamer...i am trying to be as strong as i can... i cant even believe i am in this place........i feel shock denial and my heart hurts so bad that i went to the doctor because my chest hurt and actually had x rays done...it has been beating so fast and i have been so anxious...they said that the separtation is very hard on me....oi feel like a part of me is dead.IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 2773 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 16, 2008 02:18 PM
sinderlou, i suggest that you do a family constellation to see if it is possible for you to get back together http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/008222.html IP: Logged |
Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2321 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted December 16, 2008 02:21 PM
Peridoes Sinderlou is having any saturn in hard aspect to kiron? IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 2773 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 16, 2008 02:24 PM
she has transiting Saturn opposition her natal Sunand Saturn conj Moon conj Chiron conj Mars conj Merc conj Sun natally IP: Logged |
GemGemGem Knowflake Posts: 386 From: Registered: Dec 2007
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posted December 16, 2008 02:24 PM
sinderlou, would you mind if I asked why you two broke up? You seem to have incredibly strong feelings for him. If you want to get back together with him, have you tried talking to him and telling him how strongly you feel?IP: Logged |
Diandra23 Knowflake Posts: 2321 From: portugal Registered: Mar 2007
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posted December 16, 2008 02:33 PM
Sturn with kiron i think is the one refered by Magi as the Heartbreak transit - many ones were refered as having this while break ups - in celebrity couples.Then some would eventually get together after the transit has passed.Sinderlou when im feeling low and with no hope i use to read a lot,specially the wise words of Gibran http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu8eStPNTvw&feature=related IP: Logged |
sinderlou Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2007
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posted December 16, 2008 02:43 PM
i began suffering from depression after my brother died in february....i have also been in the midst of a divorce with my husband who i have not been intimate with in 5 years.... he doesnt want to give me a divorce...anyway i was under tremendous pressure.....my bf was being patient. the divorce attorney told me not to leave the relationship until checks from my husbands setttlement came thru since lots of the $$ was because of pain and suffering to his wife.....i wish i would have never listened to the divorce attorney and pushed to get out of this marriage to be with him........... Anyways, besides that........my bf was always on personal sites..he said he was networking his poetry book he wrote but i was always upset about it......I flipped out when he lied to me and said that he was no longer on the sites and i saw him there...he said i was stalking him because i googled his name and saw him on sites...i tried to explain that this was hurtful to me as a woman and to find other resources other than dating/networking sites to promote..... anyway i flung my arms in the air and scratched him...he said that is it.........u hurt me on purpose and i was crying and said i did not mean it....he said forget it and i left and he has not spoken to me since...he told my sister that if i came to his house that he would file a pfa on me because i scratched him...it is so ridiculous...i am so sick over this......so i am seeing a therapist that has treated me for what is called situational depression. which was caused by the stress of trying to leave a marriage from a man that would not let me leave and being in a relationshiop with my bf...it was so stressful on me...couple with watching my little brother die from cancer at the same time
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sinderlou Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2007
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posted December 16, 2008 02:52 PM
diandra the utube was beautiful thank uIP: Logged |
darkdreamer Knowflake Posts: 4262 From: Germany Registered: Aug 2006
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posted December 16, 2008 02:53 PM
Sinderlou,I was having the same symptoms as you do. I felt like I was dead; actually I felt as if I was dying every ******* day again. And then I felt that numb feeling inside. Muffled. Like dead. And I also had these "heart-aches", my heart racing so fast that I thought it would literally break my chest. And I`ve also felt like I was in a "fever-storm";I can`t really explain it. I was simply feverish and numb. At the same time. It was a very hard time, and I cried so much that I thought it would suffice for my whole life. I have cried after that, sure, but no other tears ever felt that bitter. And I also have felt emotional pain after that, but not like that, not like an endless abyss of black nothing. Okay, I think that might not be very helpful. Sorry. But what I want to say is that one can get through it, survive it, and in my case, it was a necessary step of my growth. Without that experience, as tormenting it was, I wouldn`t be the woman I am today. And I feel I am on the right path, but I could only get here, once I had gone through all of this. What I want to say is that in my case it was no mistake, no joke of the universe that I fell in love with that man. It was not wrong. It was meant to be, me falling so head over heels in love. But it also was meant to bring me the experience of anguish. I consider him my greatest spiritual or even emotional teacher today, as it was through him, that I experienced such extreme emotions. I hope you can see a sense and meaning in it all for your life, too. Maybe not today, but one day hopefully. And even if you come back together with him again, you will have changed. You won`t be the person you were before this break up. But that is okay, you`re still you.
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sinderlou Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2007
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posted December 16, 2008 02:55 PM
peri how do you go about doing these family constellations IP: Logged |
Peri Moderator Posts: 2773 From: Kyiv, Ukraine Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 16, 2008 03:01 PM
sinderlou, i posted the link about the constellations in my previous post, read it please, if you want to pm me for more detailsIP: Logged |
sinderlou Knowflake Posts: 1071 From: Registered: Jan 2007
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posted December 16, 2008 06:59 PM
thanks peri...............i will read it thruIP: Logged |
MysticStarlight Knowflake Posts: 20 From: Registered: Nov 2008
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posted December 16, 2008 08:16 PM
Dear Sinderlou, I know what you're going through... I hope you can get him back.St John's Wort tea helps with depression, give it a try, it's better than most things psychiatrists prescribe. love & hugs, Annie IP: Logged |