posted July 15, 2005 08:02 PM         

I haven't gotten through the entire article, but I definitely plan to go back to it.

Ohhhhh, you know. I know. You know I know you know... ya know?

posted July 16, 2005 02:32 PM         

IYO, do you think conjunctions with the angles would be hard or easy?

My initial reaction would be, overall, easy, as the person making the aspects would find some outlet in their partner's angles? Or I could be pulling this out of my rear. Just a thought...

Another question-- what do you think of Venus conjunct Pluto? According to the article it would be a hard aspect, but I also see that pluto could intensify venus, which could be a positive thing...

My brain is getting scrambly since I read that article and dove back into my synastry with my favorite Virgo.

posted July 16, 2005 02:47 PM         

I do think angles are important, in that they are important to YOU, in your own life.. so anyone who is important TO you, having their planets placed there would increase their importance to you ( depending on the planet in question)

Pluto/Venus? That's a Soulmate/past life connection...
Power struggles yes, but the planets conjunction indicate a major thrust for love as a transformative agent.
Pluto holds power over Venus, but in the same way, Venus holds power over Pluto.
It increases romantic love, and the feeling of fatedness between two people.

posted July 16, 2005 05:24 PM         

And I see that HoroscopeChat is BAAACCKKK!!! Tried all my links and they work again, what a relief, I missed that resource really bad.....

posted July 20, 2005 02:26 AM         

Classically, the Seventh House is the "House of Marriage." A very
common correlate of relationship is to see one person's planets,
especially the Sun, Moon, or Ascendent, falling in the other person's
Seventh House. It's important not to be overly caught up in the dying
notions of "malefic" or "benefic" planets in this regard-my Saturn
falling in your Seventh House doesn't necessarily mean I'll be cold or
distant, or that I will abandon you. It might mean I'll offer you a
serious, mature, growth-oriented commitment. It really depends upon how
consciously I am responding to my own Saturn issues, and you can't ever
see that in a birthchart. Similarly, while my Venus falling in your
Seventh House can certainly suggest a wonderfully tender and romantic
connection, it can also mean that I'll manipulate and seduce you.

Even though the Seventh House is still reflexively associated with
relationship by most astrologers, all the other Houses are
relevant-we're talking about a connection between two human wholenesses,
after all. Still, I'd encourage you to pay particular attention to the
Eighth House, especially between people who are moving into the newer
styles of intimacy where the richness and spiritual relevance of the
connection means more than blind endurance. The Seventh House really
refers to partnerships in general and the grease it takes to keep them
afloat. The Eighth brings in the Plutonian themes of deep, shared inner
work and psychological intensity. It's also more connected with the
bonding dimensions of sexuality than any other House-if you have a
planet there in your own natal chart it will very reliably describe the
kinds of people with whom you are likely to have the deepest and most
compellingly instinctual sense that you are "supposed to be together."
It's about those elusive sexual terms-chemistry and electricity-which no
one can satisfactorily define but which everyone recognizes, usually
from across a crowded room.

The Fifth House is often trivialized as the "House of Love Affairs."
Planets there in your natal chart actually correlate with people in
your life with whom there is a feeling of "business that needs to be
finished." It's easiest for me to make sense of that perception in
evolutionary, reincarnational terms. If you have Neptune in your natal
Fifth House, you may really need to claim something back from a person
who is an unreliable visionary romantic (Neptune). You may need to
release him or just let her go, and that of course is sometimes easier
said than done. It's unfinished business from the karmic past, in my
view. With Mercury there in your birthchart, the person with whom you've
got the unfinished business may be a very good talker. With Mars,
someone whose anger is unresolved. You probably get the idea-just think
of the darker, more seductive possibilities connected with each planet,
and you'll be on the right track.

Those kinds of transpersonal, karmic themes emerge very clearly in
interaspectual contacts involving the Nodes of the Moon as well.
Reincarnation and the larger metaphysical, evolutionary background
against which the astrological story unfolds is a vast subject, really
too big to fit into the framework of this article. The best books I can
recommend to get you going in that domain are Jeffrey Wolf Green's
classic, Pluto: The Evolutionary Journey of the Soul Through
Relationships, and the new book he and I wrote together, Measuring the
Night: Evolutionary Astrology and the Keys to the Soul, Volume One. By
the way, Volume Two of that work will be available in a few months. It
takes the material even further. While I'm plugging books, I was very
impressed with the groundedness, style, and wisdom of Terry Lamb's
recent synastry book, Born to be Together, which is published by Hay
House.

The Fourth House is one of the most basic-and most neglected-parts of
the synastry puzzle. Most of us learn in our first astrology class that
it's the "House of the Home." We then use it to speak of our physical
dwelling places, our families of origin, and our interior psychological
worlds. All that is valid, but let's not leave out the notion that the
pot of gold at the end of love's rainbow is a stable, happy bond-a sense
of "home," created, proven, maintained, and trusted, with a beloved
partner. That's a Fourth House reality. Planets there in your own chart
indicate your needs and possibly your baggage in that department. If,
for example, you have Venus in the Fourth House, then the kind of home
that will work for you is one permeated by a peaceful, aesthetic
Venusian spirit. That puts some constraints on how satisfied you'll be
living with someone who's got Sun conjunct Uranus in Gemini, square
Mars, and five planets jumping for thermonuclear joy in Sagittarius!

If someone transposes a lot of their own planets into your Fourth
House, he or she is likely to fill you with deep, comfortable feelings
of "family." There's just an inexplicable "familiarity" there. Mutual
Fourth House transpositions are common between people who go the
distance with each other, and that bedrock astrological fact seems to
have disappeared from the more generic synastry textbooks. Probably it's
a casualty of our pan-cultural loss of those precious psychological
crown jewels-our Fourth House sense of community, kinship, and absolute
commitment to each other.

One more comment: of all the relationship Houses, I'd say the Fourth is
probably the most "adult." I say that because it relates to the stage of
relationship where it would be appropriate to consider bringing new life
into the world. In a society where "adult" has come to mean "visible
genitals," we've got some collective healing to do in that department. I
like to think of astrologers as leading rather than following in that
great enterprise.

Hadn't thought of the 4th house that way before.

posted July 20, 2005 01:10 PM         

Thanks for the articleS guys,