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heavenlyhera
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posted January 26, 2011 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heavenlyhera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I met this guy in college my freshman year and when I first met him. I swear I found him breathtaking. I could never figure out the right thing to say around him and I always felt like he was secretly a demigod lol. He was so soft and yet very masculine at the time same time. It's been over 2 and a half years since my freshman literature course and one day we were talking. I am a philosophy major and I suggested some really good philosophical books for him. We got along really well. Next thing I know, I am actually seeing my dream guy!! Then he told me he wanted to get "serious" and wanted to have a talk about what we both wanted in relationships because he really felt deeply for me. He said since we'd already had sex that he was already starting to find himself attached. We spent a lot of time together and got close pretty fast, then next thing I know we had intense blows at each other. We aren't talking right now, because we decided on a break and some space. I just wanted some insight on this relationship, like how I appear to him? Does he find me attractive? Does he want anything long term with me? I know these are questions I should already know for myself. It's just with the blow out and not talking, I just want to figure out what's going on. My roommates and I are throwing a huge valentines party. I really want him to be my valentine. I said some messed up things when we got into the argument and I want to make it up. But I first want to know what our synastry chart is saying.


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posted January 27, 2011 03:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TrueTaurus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
That's cool. I'm a philosophy major as well.
I'm not good with synastry charts. I find them confusing to read...what about a composite, and individual natal charts? Sounds like there might be potential, but the intense blowouts might indicate passion. Fights and passion go hand in hand.

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Lucia23
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posted January 27, 2011 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I am assuming that neither birth time is certain?

Anyway--this guy has a mutable Pisces Sun, and other things in his chart are very FIXED--Aqua moon, Taurus Venus. Within his own natal chart, until/unless he's very mature, he'll have some trouble communicating in romantic relationships, period.

Guys with Sun, Moon, or Venus in Pisces (and he has Sun-Venus) get very romantic and attached fast, and then later they can end up swimming away, either literally, or just internally. The long haul is way harder for them, even if they stay involved, sometimes they're only halfway there. His Aqua moon can make him detached, too...like he gets very intrigued at the beginning, before you know each other well, then cools off.

It seems like you met his romantic ideals and the sex made him feel close and attached. I'm sure he's very attracted, and you are special to him. The hard part here will be communication, and I think if you want to reconnect, you can let him know that in person--say "I feel connected with you, I want to be around you."

I'm concerned about the "blows"--if you're saying it's a PHYSICALLY volatile relationship, like you hit each other, that's a red flag and you should steer clear, even if you feel very attracted.

If it is not a physically violent or verbally abusive relationship, you two can play it by ear. Communicating with ease over a long period of time won't come naturally, so you two would have to figure out your own rhythm for getting closer, through trial and error.

The air planets in both charts communicate nicely together, but what they're communicating is totally at odds with his core personality/Pisces Sun. Which makes his natal chart challenging in all of his relationships.

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heavenlyhera
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posted January 27, 2011 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heavenlyhera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lucia23:
I am assuming that neither birth time is certain?

Anyway--this guy has a mutable Pisces Sun, and other things in his chart are very FIXED--Aqua moon, Taurus Venus. Within his own natal chart, until/unless he's very mature, he'll have some trouble communicating in romantic relationships, period.

Guys with Sun, Moon, or Venus in Pisces (and he has Sun-Venus) get very romantic and attached fast, and then later they can end up swimming away, either literally, or just internally. The long haul is way harder for them, even if they stay involved, sometimes they're only halfway there. His Aqua moon can make him detached, too...like he gets very intrigued at the beginning, before you know each other well, then cools off.

It seems like you met his romantic ideals and the sex made him feel close and attached. I'm sure he's very attracted, and you are special to him. The hard part here will be communication, and I think if you want to reconnect, you can let him know that in person--say "I feel connected with you, I want to be around you."

I'm concerned about the "blows"--if you're saying it's a PHYSICALLY volatile relationship, like you hit each other, that's a red flag and you should steer clear, even if you feel very attracted.

If it is not a physically violent or verbally abusive relationship, you two can play it by ear. Communicating with ease over a long period of time won't come naturally, so you two would have to figure out your own rhythm for getting closer, through trial and error.

The air planets in both charts communicate nicely together, but what they're communicating is totally at odds with his core personality/Pisces Sun. Which makes his natal chart challenging in all of his relationships.


My birth time is not for certain. But yes, his is. I agree with 110% of what you said. It all applies perfectly. I even wrote him last night saying that the maturity between communication with us is bad. We're both adults, let's talk this over and grow up. He is really mad at me though right now. I felt like he had communication problems though. We had sex already but not that much because everything was there so quickly and gone the next day. He told me he gets attached easily and then hurt and he didn't want that with me, so he wanted to know for certain where I stand. He said he doesn't take to things like, "I love you" in the middle of sex easily. He gets really attached if he hears that. So two days after saying that in the middle of sex with him or as he calls it "love making" (that word sounds so weird from a guy to me), we had this huge blow out and we haven't spoken and the time we did speak it was really harsh things. I keep apologising but he won't let it go. Does his chart show a tendency to hold on to grudges? Does it show in comparison with mine that he genuinely cared?

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posted January 27, 2011 10:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Synastry can only give you a hint of compatibility it does not overrule the reality of your relationship.

"how I appear to him? Does he find me attractive? Does he want anything long term with me? I know these are questions I should already know for myself. It's just with the blow out and not talking, "

Obviously he found you attractive enough to have sex with and wanted a relationship. Long term relies on things the synastry cannot say because you are two individuals bringing your own experiences into the relationship and whatever this blow-up was about needs to be resolved.

Focus on communication and resolving your differences. If you can do that then you have long-term potential. At this time, don't look at the charts, look within yourselves.

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Lucia23
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posted January 27, 2011 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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heavenlyhera
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posted January 28, 2011 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heavenlyhera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I can't really look within myself because I've caught him in lies before. He has a hard time telling the truth. And a hard time with communication in general. So I really don't know the answer to that from within.

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posted January 28, 2011 01:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Because you know he has a hard time with reality, telling the truth, etc. you do kind of have an idea of what you're dealing with. He's told you that he'll build this quick love, and it'll be fantasy...and over time it will be found imperfect, and when it crumbles he'll feel destroyed over it, like you betrayed him for not creating this perfect dream with him.

From what I've heard from Sag's here, Sag/Pisces is a tough one to make work long term. Eventually the Sag wants something more than the Pisces is giving.

Having a masculine Sun, Moon, and possibly Ascendant (air and fire signs are masculine), you're the man in this relationship, and he's the girl with his feminine Sun and Rising. He might feel like you're abrasive towards his feelings, or like you're unsympathetic or too cavalier.

It sounds like you guys have passion but not friendship. You can cooperate, but you don't feel free to communicate everything for fear of hurting the other one. If you can't have decent, straightforward conversations about things it's going to be hard. It'll drive you both crazy trying to read between the lines all the time.

If you can take it slow, take it slow. You have to reel in this fantasy he's creating. You have to ground him, which may feel tough for you, because you need grounding yourself. You're both prone to flights of fancy. Yours are more heroic, and his are more emotional.

I hate to leave it here, but I've got to get to bed.

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heavenlyhera
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posted January 28, 2011 11:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for heavenlyhera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by AcousticGod:
Because you know he has a hard time with reality, telling the truth, etc. you do kind of have an idea of what you're dealing with. He's told you that he'll build this quick love, and it'll be fantasy...and over time it will be found imperfect, and when it crumbles he'll feel destroyed over it, like you betrayed him for not creating this perfect dream with him.

From what I've heard from Sag's here, Sag/Pisces is a tough one to make work long term. Eventually the Sag wants something more than the Pisces is giving.

Having a masculine Sun, Moon, and possibly Ascendant (air and fire signs are masculine), you're the man in this relationship, and he's the girl with his feminine Sun and Rising. He might feel like you're abrasive towards his feelings, or like you're unsympathetic or too cavalier.

It sounds like you guys have passion but not friendship. You can cooperate, but you don't feel free to communicate everything for fear of hurting the other one. If you can't have decent, straightforward conversations about things it's going to be hard. It'll drive you both crazy trying to read between the lines all the time.

If you can take it slow, take it slow. You have to reel in this fantasy he's creating. You have to ground him, which may feel tough for you, because you need grounding yourself. You're both prone to flights of fancy. Yours are more heroic, and his are more emotional.

I hate to leave it here, but I've got to get to bed.


Thanks for the reply
I do agree with most of what you're saying. But I don't feel like the man in the relationship at all. I feel like a little girl lol. I am always so emotional and he is very detached and tries to play the heroic part all the time. Maybe he is better at hiding it though.

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AcousticGod
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posted January 28, 2011 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe his Aquarian Moon and Mercury comes into play more than I think. Some Pisces males are known for their emotional drama, so I'm surprised you'd find him to be the detached one.

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Lucia23
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posted January 28, 2011 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Pisces Sun is going to want to avoid conflict and drift away when things get uncomfortable. His Aqua Moon makes him want LOTS of freedom.

You might have meant "I love you" as: "I like hanging out with you, you're hot."

This guy probably heard it as: "Because you've contacted my vagina, I want to keep you trapped forever and EVER in an emotional and sexual prison where you stay with me FOREVER in a Very Serious Relationship with Very HEAVY demands, are you up to that, or will you let me down, and you never have another lover ever again and either do I and the WHOLE FUTURE of each of our WHOLE LIVES will be about meeting each other's emotional needs FOREVER."

With a guy of any sign, "I love you" works best after 7 happy months together, and after he's said it, you say it back. Of course there are exceptions, and you have to be yourself and follow your heart...but the "I love you" probably heightened his natural ambivalence. If you do things like WRITING him that you're "both adults", that probably exacerbates his feeling that this is something heavy, serious, and demanding that he would like to escape.

Synastry charts can't tell you how someone will feel about you, whether he's serious, or what will happen in the relationship--they just show POTENTIAL emotional patterns and dynamics that can play out many different ways.

My guess with his chart is that he is not the type to hold grudges--more that when it seems serious or hard, he wants to escape it (Pisces) and remove himself (Aqua.)

A serious relationship can't be planned in advance through discussion, it has to develop organically over happy time together.

My advice would be to forget the blowout and forget seeking validation (here or from him) about how he feels about you...if you want something with him, IN PERSON (no letters, with any guy of any sign the longer you can wait to talk about or label your Relationship, the better) touch his arm, make friendly eye contact, and say, "Hey, it's too bad things got so weird with us. I want to hang out again, though."

See if you can start having fun together and spending time together that you both enjoy. Otherwise, best to move on.

If you're desperate for validation (from him or an astrology website) of his feelings for you, this definitely won't work, he'll sense that intensity and it will probably just make him feel ambivalent and uncomfortable and want to get away.

I can't tell where that's coming from in your natal chart--you look light and fun. I think if you take a light touch with this and stay open, you'll be able to tell whether it's a good thing for you to get more involved with him.

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Lucia23
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posted January 28, 2011 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Shorter answer: from his natal, he looks like a guy who's very attractive, but frustrating to try to be involved with.

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heavenlyhera
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posted January 28, 2011 09:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for heavenlyhera     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the replies everyone.

Yes, he is very detached. He does have some emotional dramas in a way.

I also wrote him letting him know that I wanted to be friends and that I know we would be a good match because we share a lot of similar interests. I also told him I usually am not this persistent with people after a blow out, but I do care for him and I find him very unique and I don't want to lose a really special person in my life.

And yes, he is very very attractive. I think that might also be an understatement. He is gorgeous..

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posted January 30, 2011 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Steam     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by heavenlyhera:
I can't really look within myself because I've caught him in lies before. He has a hard time telling the truth. And a hard time with communication in general. So I really don't know the answer to that from within.

Astrology aside, why would you want this in your life?

Get over how cute he is, if he's very attractive he is enjoying a 'stable' of women or who knows, could be a psychopath. Looks are great and important but fade fast when the character can't match. Beware!

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