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cat lover
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posted April 27, 2011 08:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cat lover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, i am friends with this guy who has saturn in scorpio, where as my saturn is in cancer and my sun and ascendent are in pisces.

Do we have a basis for a harmonious/lasting friendship?

Or should i give this saturn in scorpio guy a wide birth?!

I have read that this saturn placement in scorpio can be difficult and in the past this guy has displayed shallow tendencies in him which i didn't trust!

It is only now that he's started to want to talk to me more he has suddenly got my attention. I think he has a complex of some sort, but i just want to know if our saturn placements mean anything permanent? thanks

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mochai
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posted May 04, 2011 08:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You'd have to look at the entirety of the chart. It's not just the sign saturn is under but what that saturn is doing, especially with your personal planets. That will show you how binding it is, but saturn energy can be harsh and too much saturn energy is hard in a relationship. You can post your chart synastry and that should be able to tell us more.

Scorpio is a very deep sign so I don't know where you're getting the shallowness. I am a saturn in scorpio, and I'm usually one of the deepest people most people meet.

Here's a little synopsis..

SATURN IN SCORPIO
Keynote: Power derives from control of the basic forces of nature.

Symbol: A nuclear reactor is heavily encased with lead.

The seriousness of Saturn blends naturally with the secretiveness of Scorpio. Saturn gives the restraint to keep secrets so that a reserved exterior may conceal an active inner life. The character is deep, subtle, masterful, and difficult to fathom.

Since Scorpio's co-ruler, Pluto, is lord of the underworld, and Saturn rules the mineral kingdom, this combination can produce the would-be plutocrat who endeavors to gain control over a substantial share of the earth's resources. A knack for business and finance may pay off handsomely, especially if investments are made in mines, oil wells, and "the excremental industries" which break down substances and produce waste products which must be disposed of.

The ambition to make money is fed by a desire for the control money brings. The ability to influence people by pulling strings behind the scenes leads by slow, persistent, and indirect stages to the attainment of the power sought.

Often these individuals would rather work deviously than take straightforward action. They make effective detectives and espionage agents who, despite their extreme caution, do not avoid danger. The enemy is ruthlessly tracked down, whether this be a criminal, a psychoneurosis, a flaw in a machine, the germ of a disease, a fallacy in a theory, or an error in reasoning. They will continue analyzing and testing in a dogged, impersonal way until the culprit is exposed.

Saturn in Scorpio can denote emotional repressions and deep psychological complexes relating to financial security, sex, and the disposal of wastes.

In Scorpio, Saturn's chilling influence tends to freeze the surface of the emotions and thwart the fires of Mars. There is an aversion to betraying personal feelings even when the inner life is in turmoil. These individuals generally prefer to stand silently in the background and observe the fuss and commotion of human affairs without becoming overtly involved. Yet they are keenly perceptive and capable of enforcing their demands once they decide what should be done.

Scorpians seldom play lightly with the affections of others and they expect their own highly sensitive feelings to be treated with respect. In love, their passions are fixed and enduring, but there can be a domineering and jealous insistence upon having their own way.

Intensely proud, though seldom vain, they hate being wrong and like even less to admit it when they are. If deceived by their beloved, they can reveal a streak of cruelty making them capable of premeditated revenge, or they can retreat into a shell and resolve to forgo the uncertain business of love altogether.

Whatever the Saturnian Scorpian does, they usually do purposefully, for they refuse to expend their energies on frivolities. Even when playing a game, they are aware that they are gaining physical and mental prowess. They make it a point to observe their performance closely in order to rectify mistakes others would let pass. This deliberately cultivated awareness often leads to the success they crave.

This position often gives an element of dark, brooding intensity which can make its presence felt even in charts where other indications show extrovert and enthusiastic qualities. There is usually a tremendous sense of purpose and determination, and emotional energy will be generously spent on attaining objectives.

An excellent and shrewd business sense is perhaps one of the most powerful qualities of this Saturn placing. These people can do extremely well in big business or the international money markets. A certain heaviness is usually countered by a marvelously offbeat sense of humor, and in spite of the usual Saturnian caution, often in relation to overspending, Scorpio knows how to live it up and enjoys excellent food and wine.

On the negative side obsessive tendencies are all too likely, with determination becoming extreme stubbornness. Sadly, there is sometimes a rather cruel streak; once really set on achieving a demanding objective, this person may be ruthless in attaining it. One is encouraged to cultivate sympathy and greater consideration of others. Much hard work will be carried out, and an emotional involvement in the profession is often essential - even if the basic motivation is to make money, this is enough to put them on the road to success.

The sex life can be complex: sometimes a full and rewarding expression is inhibited, and as a result the individual can feel dissatisfied in this sphere of life. It may be that Saturn’s inner authoritative voice will instill jealousy and envy, and if this is not fought against with tooth and claw it will have a very negative effect on the personality and, sometimes, physical well-being.

My personal experience, I don't like business or resources, as it is superficial and destructive to others. I admit to having thoughts of revenge but ultimately I just don't want to hurt the person. I am very deep and I have annoyingly complex emotional complexes. Again, you can't look at just one placement. It's the whole chart that plays the largest role, second only to the soul's own expression of it.

But do post your synastry, I can tell you how binding it is. Scorpio by nature plays for keeps.

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cat lover
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posted May 11, 2011 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cat lover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi mochai, wow long post!

No i dont think that all people with saturn in scorpio are shallow! Its just that before when i knew this guy i was nothing but nice to him and i would help him out when i could. But he just seemed cold and disloyal during that time and used to play mind games with me, i got these negative vibes from him.

However when he did decide to engage in a serious converation with me i found that we could actually have good conversations, but he was the one who used to spoil it time after time when he decided to act all stupid again.

Now a few years on he's decided to be friendly towards me and seeks me out lot which has made me question it.

Yes i still would like to be his friend (because of his good points) but theres a part of me that doesn't trust him because i've seen a side to him which i think is shallow.

I dont know how to do synastry charts or can't remember which website does the charts which everyone seems to go on.

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mochai
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posted May 13, 2011 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mochai     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I usually use astro.com. You can leave your birth data and I'll do it for you or you can do it yourself and erase the data with paintshop and upload it through photobucket or something.

Also, saturn contacts (binds) are about karma. The severity strength etc tells somethings, but if the person forgives then even the severest of contacts can be null.

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cat lover
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posted May 13, 2011 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cat lover     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi mochai, thank you for offering to look at our synastry charts but i've decided to not wonder or bother to much with this guy anymore.

I saw him at work today and he's back to being all cold and calculating again.

I just rather not waste anymore energy on him and i think this has just summed up the situation for me! Thanks again anyway..i feel rather silly now having wrote a post about him!

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