posted January 04, 2009 11:01 AM            

Have you ever noticed that you never really feel like friends with your boyfriends?
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Heres the deal. I totally see where he is coming from in that thought. Passion is blinding, I agree. But only because it is a very powerful feeling, which makes a it very powerful emotion, which in turn would make it a very powerful Earthy energy, one of the most powerful, because it comes from our base Chakra the seat of Kundalini, the pathway of the serpent wisdom energy. Of course a very intense Soulmate/Twinsoul relationship would activate this energy. Causing them to be very physically attracted to each other in an intense passionate, lusty, sexual way that definitely causes them to be obsessed with each other no doubt this would be first time they had experienced it in a physical dimension.....then look around at so many runners in Soulmate connections, I think its because this energy blinds them making them interested only in the physical Earth plane connection, leaving the passionate energy subject to any willing to harvest it. But if they had been able to ground it in the Earth plane, but also refine it through the alchemical process that Ralight infuses, then as above so below......it would become a connection..... albeit a permanent one in many ways.

Sooo oohh your right, you need to be friends. But how cool would it be if you experienced this passion first. Parted ways, grew a little more and then met up again after you have learned how to be yourselves, your true higher selves. Each in the way your lifepaths had lead and then come full circle back to each other as awakened beings.

Is that the makings of a Twinsoul connection because it is so much more intense than the Soulmate one.....
You actually are forced to acknowledge your inner God independant of each other so that you would always honor that source and not abuse the energy of light.

Could that actually be the purpose of runners, because they are doing it subconsciously, which means they would actually be walking there lifepaths in more pain due to blindness instead freedom due to light on your pathway.
But either way they are walking the path and perhaps if we examine it a very similiar one.

posted January 04, 2009 02:22 PM              

Aries Sun, Moon in Sag, Scorpio Rising

What a ploy! lmao

Yeah, hey all you gorgeous ladies, listen up, let's do it like maniacs and then if we're still on talking terms after that...then I can still keep you on...K?

posted January 04, 2009 02:34 PM            

I hadnt thought about that way!
Your terrible! lol

Notice I am making sure I don't put my moon, sun and asc up again! lol

posted January 04, 2009 05:31 PM            

If you take the time to build a really great fire, then light it evenly it will burn for hours and the ash will remain hot well into the next day

posted January 04, 2009 11:19 PM              

haha, lol

posted January 04, 2009 11:39 PM            

I'm glad it got you thinking, and I hope that's beneficial for you. Much of what you said went straight over my head, because I'm not familiar with a lot of the terminology you're using.

Regarding the sequence of:

• Having a passionate love affair
  
• Breaking up
  
• Growing up
  
• Getting back to the person you were passionate with...

I'm not absolutely certain that it would work, though. The reason is that, for me, it would mean getting back together with a Cancer Sun, which is my opposite sign. The keyword for Cardinal signs [in my book] is "initiation". We initiate things, which means that we always have an agenda that we're pursuing. Two Cardinals together can come to have their agendas clashing. I know that as youngsters I kind of let my personality go by the wayside when I was with her, possibly because I have a lot of Mutable in my chart.

This isn't to say that people of the same modality can't work together. I just think that there's a possibility that, despite the individual growth, the relationship may fall back into a familiar pattern, because it's still the same personalities at the core.

posted January 04, 2009 11:54 PM            

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I cant imagine not having both. I want passion and friendship. Most of my relationships have started off as long term friends.

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I think the best relationships start as good friends and then the passion builds. After all, if you are going to build a fire and you just throw some gasoline over some logs it will absolutely roar and burn you to a cinder but it won't last very long.

If you take the time to build a really great fire, then light it evenly it will burn for hours and the ash will remain hot well into the next day

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~Lovers Beware~

Tender music of the soul can wound or heal the heart...
And love lost before can be renewed....
And stars uncrossed...
Beware old wounds reopened
To bleed from tender hearts again..
The souls to yearn...
For their own true song....
Which must be played to perfection...
And mutual tones and meanings realized..
Or the notes into miseries fall to become a dirge.

Eternal love demands no idle tryst of passion..
Such desire must be
the purest extention of love's true form..
Or hungry flesh to flesh
will poison the sacredness..
And lovers hearts flaming ....
Too soon burn down to hot embers..
And tears fall as bitter rain...
Washing away even the cold ashes....
Leaving at best...
Nothing.

LEXX 2006

posted January 05, 2009 12:42 AM            

Most of my relationships have been consuming, volatile, combative, and extremely passionate. Maybe too much so. But that's also part of how I love, so I don't know if I can reconcile how to be less passionate in how I love, or to even settle for less passion. I just can't change how I love at my core. I really have tried. I tried to be with people on several occasion who I didn't feel as passionately about, because I felt we were compatible, but I just lost my patience with it because it felt like my own heart was missing, and like I was lying to myself in an attempt to replace it with emotional security, which in the end didn't really feel secure at all

I do find though that friendship is extremely important - if I can find someone who I have a wonderful, passionate friendship with and who is completely accepting of me as a person and where we are both mutually in love, then it would be great. But there HAS to be a strong attraction too.
I've always managed to have a pretty good level of friendship with my boyfriends, but I am finding that I would like it to be stronger so that it can last.

posted January 05, 2009 02:32 AM            

But you know all of this is just so abstract because we will all experience Twin Soul relationships in different ways, there is no carbon copy way of predicting what would happen but there have got to be some natural laws that we all answer too therefore we would all see them displayed in a our Soulmate/Twinsoul relationships that we could say maybe it is Universal. It would be like mapping energy but collectively instead of individually. Which would help us be more successful as a whole in dealing with them. Still with me? Lol I better stop there.

Lexx-
Wow! Thanks for that beautiful poem.
To me it is saying that yeah there will be passion but we must learn to protect its sacredness less all of it go up in ashes. Am I right?

VirgoMask:
See my relationships have been all over the chart, they have all been different, some started off with lots of passion some started off as friendships, but in the end the other person always did something to me, all forms of betrayal. In a couple I was even the culprit. Whatever the case they didnt work. But I barrelled through all of them completely unaware and unconscious, so you can only imagine the situations I found myself in. But after becoming more aware of what was going on through Astrology, and other occult studies I learned how to map the situation so to speak.
And now i am like you, I want it all. I want the connection, the passion, and the friendship.
The only thing is now, I see that I had that with someone, and he ran. Just for no apparent reason lol
While I was with him I became turned on to occult studies to explain the dreams I was having and emotions I was feeling. They were all new and either I was going crazy or my life was changing in front of my very eyes.
I literally went from thinking that Astrology was demonized to believing it is Ancient Knowledge in 2 months, freaky right?
Well then I was confused when he ran and took it to mean we werent to be together, but all of my meditations, and all of my answers from higher dimensions, all roads lead back to him, and supposedly his awareness will expand too. In his chart is Neptune is exactly conjunct the Galactic Center and his Sun is only 4 degrees away, right now he is not open to any occult studies as far as I know and so is freaked out by the intensity of our connection, but I am thinking this may all change soon, in light of the times we are in. So thats why I brought up this thread.
But anyway. I think you should just be in the moment tomorrow and operate from love only not fear, remember you have nothing to lose so there is nothing to be afraid of. Feel first and then watch and listen and pick up every clue the Universe throws your way, so you can make the best possible to decision for you VirgoMask, and in honoring your inner God I think the Universe will make sure the outcome is in your best interest rather you percieve it as good or bad in the material dimension your soul will progress spiritually. Ready, set grow! lol

(Its getting late, and I always get really silly for some reason)

posted January 06, 2009 12:09 AM            

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I don't know if it is just all the fire in my Natal chart, but I totally love the passion. I mean I see what your saying, but what if you could balance both.

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I love the passion, too, except for the burn afterwards when it doesn't work out. I don't like that part.

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Two Cardinal signs if they could blend there energies would make one amazing couple. Since you would be able to lead side by side different ways.

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posted January 07, 2009 05:22 PM            

and i have had friendships turn passionate and then return to friendship.

i have never experienced a relationship that balanced both, and am not sure it is possible - but it does APPEAR that some people DO experience this...of course the passion is not kept hot on the front burner for a lifetime, but it is still there -

posted January 08, 2009 01:09 AM            

oneruledbymars

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Lexx-
Wow! Thanks for that beautiful poem.

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To me it is saying that yeah there will be passion but we must learn to protect its sacredness less all of it go up in ashes. Am I right?

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I think the best relationships start as good friends and then the passion builds. After all, if you are going to build a fire and you just throw some gasoline over some logs it will absolutely roar and burn you to a cinder but it won't last very long.

If you take the time to build a really great fire, then light it evenly it will burn for hours and the ash will remain hot well into the next day

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posted January 01, 2010 07:06 AM            

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Sooo oohh your right, you need to be friends. But how cool would it be if you experienced this passion first. Parted ways, grew a little more and then met up again after you have learned how to be yourselves, your true higher selves. Each in the way your lifepaths had lead and then come full circle back to each other as awakened beings.

Is that the makings of a Twinsoul connection because it is so much more intense than the Soulmate one.....
You actually are forced to acknowledge your inner God independant of each other so that you would always honor that source and not abuse the energy of light.

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