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Ann7
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posted March 10, 2008 05:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message
I have had an on again off again relationship with a Cap male for almost two years now. I have no clue how to read this man. Sometimes I think he cares for me (a lot) and other times I feel as though he could care less if I come or go. Could someone please read our synastry and tell me if there is any hope and if this man feels as strongly as I do? Or should I walk away from this situation. I care very deeply for him but am afraid of getting my heart broken.

Him: 01/16/1968 12:39 am Los Angeles, California.

Me: 10/30/1968 8:38 New Brunswick, New Jersey.

Any insight is much appreciated. Thank you

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Lucia23
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posted March 11, 2008 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Is your birth time am or pm?

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Lucia23
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posted March 11, 2008 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
In the meantime, I'm taking a look at his chart...

This man has a lot of deep, tricky family issues going on (and by family issues, I mean the legacy of the family he grew up in)...he's had real challenges with issues surrounding a father or father figure(s), especially, and finding the security and comfort to open himself up is really hard for him. In some ways, where it matters, he IS very cold...and he even feels that coldness inside.

Meanwhile, he has a fiery moon and venus that you may be responding to...they create a surface sense of warmth and the potential for passion. With his Mars in Pisces and Venus in Sag...I don't mean to be a pessimist, but when his ideals about love and passion aren't matched by reality, he charges onward, swims away or disappears. It would be very hard for this guy to "find himself" enough to easily commit to anybody.

Synastry: between you, there's probably a strong sexual pull and a sense of karmic connection...WHOA...you each have a snug conjunction between Saturn and the other's North Node. Among other karmic stuff...(your mars, his pluto; his mars, your moon)

I have no doubt that this man feels a strong connection to you, also. BUT his way of dealing with/experiencing a connection like that in his life, due to his family issues and very deep inner conflicts, might not feel happy or good to him. Instead, it might feel threatening, challenging and hard.

My advice: both of you experience communication as a central, #1 priority and need, not just in romantic relationships but in life overall. Yet with each other, you aren't communicating with full openness and honesty. You need to set the tone by being as straightforward with him about your true wants and needs as you possibly can. TALK TO HIM. Meanwhile, the feelings he's showing you are real, and they are as unconflicted as he can get...which is not very unconflicted at all.

Use this as an opportunity to truly communicate and be open with this man you care for. It'll help both of you. It looks to me like he's not ready for a full-time, clear, committed relationship (of the kind Libras ideally think they want)...but with your Sag Venus, however unconscious it is, his distance from you is making him more appealing, in a way that's not the healthiest...now that it's starting to cause you pain, focus on really being a straight-shooter and trying to be true about what YOU really want. Open up to him instead of trying to change him. Open up not only to him, but to yourself and to love in general! Allow life to surprise you.

And with this guy, what you're getting is what you will get more of. By that, I don't mean to walk away. I mean to let go of trying to control the situation, and instead open your heart.

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Ann7
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posted March 11, 2008 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Lucia! Thank you soooo much for looking at things. I was born in the AM. A lot of what you said is bang on. He is cold and even admits to it. He had major issues with his father when he was younger and I think it's safe to say that they still haunt him today. Also, there is an overwhelming sexual pull between us (at least I feel it).

What does it mean when Saturn conjuncts the North Node? Very curious to hear more.

Again, thank you!!!

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Ann7
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posted March 11, 2008 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ann7     Edit/Delete Message
One more thing... It's wild that you suggested trying to talk straight with him. I've been trying to do that recently with no luck. He ends up avoiding me or we play phone tag. :/

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Lucia23
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posted March 12, 2008 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
A Saturn/North Node conjunction is heavy duty. With both of you having that aspect both ways, you both feel linked together, like something was meant to be be...and you both feel serious about the relationship.

Sometimes, to some people, that seriousness doesn't feel good (as in, "I want to spend the rest of my life with this person")...sometimes it feels weighty or scary, especially when the Saturn person struggles with the kind of family issues I mentioned above. Meanwhile, the Node person can end up feeling powerfully drawn to the Saturn person, but also feeling some major unease. A North Node-Saturn conjunction means that you are basically pulling each other into learning lessons.

All of the Saturn-Node action is happening for both of you in Aries...intense fiery action! Saturn feels uncomfortable in Aries, and Scorpios and Capricorns alike are challenged especially by having a fiery Saturn. Your Saturn-Node bond probably feels uncomfortable to both of you on some levels. For you, with a 4th house node, 5th house Saturn, he awakens in you a powerful romantic drive that feels deep ands almost familial. Somewhere deep down, you'd feel reassured if you could marry him and have him be yours. For him, with 6th house node and Saturn, the discomfort effects him on a more mundane, daily level...he might even experience it physically...an everyday sense of feeling heavily drawn to you, yet wanting to flee!

You both have lovely communicative aspects--he's a 3rd house sun, you're a 3rd house moon--and you should both make an effort to open up about this.

Also, another thing that catches my eye is his Leo moon...Leo moons need lots of love, fun and reassurance! That big ole warm fuzzy moon is at odds with some of his chillier aspects. It squares your Sun, which can be another discomfort-causing aspect. When he does warm up and come out of his chilly distance, he might feel thwarted or insecure by how he feels. Your Saturn squares his Sun, too...which can make the Sun person feel insecure and judged.

Scorpios at their best can be honest but not unkind. I think it'll be a great learning experience for you and act of love toward him if you open yourself up and admit what you are feeling...all the different complicated levels of that. I'm not saying it will be fun, and like I said, I think this guy has challenges that make him not ready for a happy, full-time, one-on-one, smooth relationship with ANYONE...but you will feel you were true to yourself.

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Lucia23
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posted March 12, 2008 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Also, one more thought: You are confused because this guy is confusing.

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