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sunshine9
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posted July 10, 2011 10:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'm attaching the synastry of a relationship has had a rather complicated and long history. I have 10 years of history with "Bee", which have seen two attempts at relationship which did not work out due to various challenges and stupidity on both our parts, and finally, one that is working very well so far. This time, fate seems to have given us another precious chance, and we are both more mature and not willing to give up for the wrong reasons, and have come much further than we ever did before.

This time around, we love each other very much, and it is my feeling/hope we will make it to the altar like we have always felt we would.

I had a conversation with Ami Anne earlier today, and am thus posting the synastry chart here for us to look over. Thanks, hon..

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posted July 11, 2011 07:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you Darling
I will be back

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posted July 11, 2011 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sweetie
Could you make it bigger ,please?
It would be much easier

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Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 11, 2011 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Just saw a thing or two. His Uranus conj your Juno. That is fascinating.
Your Juno, the part of you that wants to be a wife , he is shaking up.
He is putting ups and downs in to that part of you JUST as you expressed.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 11, 2011 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Vertex conjuncts your Saturn. That means this relationship is fated.
I do not know what the significance of the actual planet which conjuncts the Vertex is--do you?
IOW,if Saturn conjuncts it does it mean one thing? If Venus conjuncts it does it mean another?
I may do a thread in Astro 2 about it.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 11, 2011 08:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
INTERESTING

His Vesta conjuncts your Venus.Vesta holds things. It holds what it touches.It holds it in such a way to have selfless ,devotion to what it holds.
The surrogate mother exemplifies Vesta.She holds the child for the other woman as a selfless act.
This shows me that he holds YOU very dearly.He holds you in his heart as someone he really loves. Do you feel that?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 11, 2011 08:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Saturn is on your MC. He disciplines you. He tells YOU to be more responsible ,more careful and to pay more attention to the rules.
is that true?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 11, 2011 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
he has a bunch of 2nd house planets/asteroids overlaying your IC.
He feels like home to you.
You get security in the world and self esteem through him.
Does this fit?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 11, 2011 08:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has Mars,Sun, Mercury,Junom Vesta and Ceres in your 4th house.
I can SEE why you care for him so deeply and have stayed so committed over time.
He feels like home to you.

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 11, 2011 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Sappho conj your Chiron. Sappho is eroticism expressed though creative things.
Do you have deep pain which he seems to help through creative things such as his playing an instrument,doing art or just being a creative person in general.
Does HE help your pain by his erotic/creative nature?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 11, 2011 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Panacea is on your Mercury. He is healing you in some way,in the area of your mind/communication.
Is this true? Are you shut down in communicating in some way? Has your mind shut down in some way that HE heals?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 11, 2011 08:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is interesting--natally you and he are BOTH very strong 2nd house people.
This would be good for marriage cuz you are both oriented to the world and gaining stability in the material world so your goals would be similar

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 11, 2011 08:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
His Karma conj your DSC. This relationship was meant to be.
His Neptune conj your Karma.

His Karma, his life plan is PART of your relationship sphere of life. He needs to be with YOU,in a relationship with you to fufill his Karma

He cannot see this perhaps as his Neptune cannot see your Karma cuz Neptune fogs.

This makes sense.Doesn't it? It mirrors what is going on. What do you think?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 11, 2011 08:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Venus oppose his Saturn ,moon and NN.
it looks like a close opposition to his Saturn.
This is not good cuz he could put cold water on your tender love nature.
Do you feel this? Do you feel pushed away when you are tender to him and show your love side to him?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 11, 2011 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Your Sun opposes his Jupiter. His Uranus opposes your Jupiter.

What do you think of these? I am not good figuring out Jupiter?
What do these aspects do in general?
How do you feel them in the relationship?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 11, 2011 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Sweetie
Could you make it bigger ,please?
It would be much easier

dear Ami,

I'm afraid I don't know how to do that.. Can I just send you a link to it - may blow up better as a .jpg?


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posted July 11, 2011 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
Just saw a thing or two. His Uranus conj your Juno. That is fascinating.
Your Juno, the part of you that wants to be a wife , he is shaking up.
He is putting ups and downs in to that part of you JUST as you expressed.

I'd missed that before.. Neat!! So when I'm being wife-y, he has a tendency to introduce uncertainty..

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posted July 11, 2011 03:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
His Vertex conjuncts your Saturn. That means this relationship is fated.
I do not know what the significance of the actual planet which conjuncts the Vertex is--do you?
IOW,if Saturn conjuncts it does it mean one thing? If Venus conjuncts it does it mean another?
I may do a thread in Astro 2 about it.

Ami, I found this somewhere:

"When a person's Saturn is conjunct your Vertex, they may be somewhat 'stabilizing' or offer some sage advice to you. You may look up to this person for the discipline, lessons or structures they bring into your life or visa versa."

I believe the Vertex acts as a sort of fated point in the chart, a 'subconscious Descendant' as some people call it, and so it draws you to people who have close conjunctions/oppositions to your Vertex. With personal planets, it is all the more significant.

My Saturn conjunct his Vtx probably means a karmic connection whereby I help him learn certain lessons he is fated to learn.

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posted July 11, 2011 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
INTERESTING

His Vesta conjuncts your Venus. Vesta holds things. It holds what it touches. It holds it in such a way to have selfless, devotion to what it holds.
The surrogate mother exemplifies Vesta.She holds the child for the other woman as a selfless act.
This shows me that he holds YOU very dearly. He holds you in his heart as someone he really loves. Do you feel that?


He does, Ami.. I have almost always felt the warmth of unconditional love from him, especially when we were going through some rough times..

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posted July 11, 2011 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
His Saturn is on your MC. He disciplines you. He tells YOU to be more responsible ,more careful and to pay more attention to the rules.
is that true?

Very much so.. he involves himself very much in my career pursuits, and we discuss my career development and job search in much detail. I can always count on him for solid advice in this arena (among others).

quote:
he has a bunch of 2nd house planets/asteroids overlaying your IC.
He feels like home to you.
You get security in the world and self esteem through him.
Does this fit?

It fits really well..

quote:
He has Mars, Sun, Mercury, Juno, Vesta and Ceres in your 4th house.
I can SEE why you care for him so deeply and have stayed so committed over time.
He feels like home to you.

He does, very much so! We had a strong rapport from the very beginning, a connection that has stayed strong over time.

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posted July 11, 2011 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK Darling
Put the link on so I can enlarge it. Yes,glad I found some interesting new things.I will keep looking

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 11, 2011 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
He has a Pisces /Virgo axis and your MC is right there on his Virgo side.
It is very interesting how he has so many oppositions.
It must be strange having to deal with a Pisces/Virgo.
I cannot IMAGINE dealing with that .I am a Gemini and both square me lol
Just thinking about something.I think he has a see saw chart.Does he see saw between Pisces and Virgo.
How does it manifest?

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Enlightenment doesn't result from sitting around visualizing images of light, but from integrating the darker aspects of the self into the conscious personality
Jung
Be as wise as a serpents,gentle as doves.

He who controls his Spirit is greater than he who controls a city
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posted July 12, 2011 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
His Sappho conj your Chiron. Sappho is eroticism expressed though creative things.
Do you have deep pain which he seems to help through creative things such as his playing an instrument,doing art or just being a creative person in general.
Does HE help your pain by his erotic/creative nature?

His expression of Sappho does feel very nice, balming to me, healing even.. Though he is not a very right-brained/creative person, being much more left-brained. We do now have a shared interest in art we are cultivating together, to fill the gaps, which feels great..

quote:
His Panacea is on your Mercury. He is healing you in some way,in the area of your mind/communication.
Is this true? Are you shut down in communicating in some way? Has your mind shut down in some way that HE heals?

Cool, Ami.. where is Panacea? What does it generally indicate in a chart?

I do consider myself somewhat communication challenged - the Capricorn flavors mine with more of a cold, analytical feel than with emotion, and I do find myself wishing at times that it were tempered with feeling. Our Mercuries square one another, which I do feel at times.. that we communicate at cross-purposes or don't always get each other as well as we could. However, we keep at it, keep trying, and the Psyche contacts helps us get past this, I think. Perhaps Panacea is playing a role too.. I don't have an understanding of it yet. Could you please explain Panacea to me?

*EDIT: Uh oh.. I think I see what you might have read as Panacea due to the size of the chart - it's actually Parvati, Ami! Parvati, the consort of Siva - they are an archetypal pair in Hinduism. Oops.. I think I better send the link STAT so we don't have to strain our eyes!!


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posted July 12, 2011 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
His Karma conj your DSC. This relationship was meant to be.
His Neptune conj your Karma.

His Karma, his life plan is PART of your relationship sphere of life. He needs to be with YOU,in a relationship with you to fufill his Karma

He cannot see this perhaps as his Neptune cannot see your Karma cuz Neptune fogs.

This makes sense. Doesn't it? It mirrors what is going on. What do you think?


I think I understand Karma conjunct DC better than I do Karma conjunct Neptune. I'm not sure I have a grasp of that.. but I do remember IQ once listing Karma contacts somewhere, and Neptune came up as deception in a past life, or perhaps of a spiritual nature, as in a spiritual guru.. I honestly don't have a feeling about it either way.. perhaps that is the Neptune fogging it. I wonder if he is fogging my perception, or I'm fogging his..

I like the Karma conjunct DC.. also because his name-asteroid lingers around this in my natal chart.. This is one of my favorites..


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posted July 12, 2011 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sunshine9     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ami Anne:
OK Darling
Put the link on so I can enlarge it. Yes,glad I found some interesting new things.I will keep looking

The link to the chart is: http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r14/Sunshine9_album/Astro/SunshineBe e-Synastry-w-ArchetypalPairs.gif

I appreciate your help.. Thanks, hon!


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