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Junethird
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posted January 07, 2013 10:12 AM
  
Hello knowflakes  From my understanding of horary i think its a "no" but iam not too sure... I feel like its trying to tell me something else... Someone else? Sun in cap 12 h he is in hiding mode or hiding something... Saturn is the taditional ruler of capriorn and both moon and saturn are in scorpio 8h ... WILL WE TALK TODAY  IP: Logged |
birdy
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posted January 07, 2013 11:11 AM
It looks like a no, and for it to be a yes, there would have to be a added effort on his part. Then his ruler is in 12th, then his other ruler is applying a square to other ruler(mars). Maybe someone else can add some more input because I dont look at horaries enough. IP: Logged |
birdy
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posted January 07, 2013 11:15 AM
Another thing...It feels like he wants to. Theres a feeling of sense of duty when I look at it that holds him back.IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted January 07, 2013 11:22 AM
Thank you for replying birdy. He is cap influenced here and they dont like messy... But they are sticklers for wanting/doing the right thing  working hard to make amends? Moon/saturn in scorpio worry me. Its a very stubborn placement i think. I keep wondering if another is involved... But it wasnt my question to the chart. The asc degrees are at 21 its neraing the end almost.. Horary wise, Sould i reach out today/tmrw or should i wait it out still? Can i offer you a reading in return for your time. Post it here or on my current 5 one card offer page. Ill add you as a bonus  IP: Logged |
birdy
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posted January 07, 2013 11:33 AM
I think you should definitely wait it out. Look at the 3rd house, in Taurus(slow), and ruler in Sagittarius about to go into Capricorn. Mercury is in Cap as well. This is about thinking out what you're going to say, and some delays. His ruler is Sun, so maybe wait till Venus is in Capricorn closer to it. Sometimes you have to look at a horary without using all the rules and just look at it like a natal.IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted January 07, 2013 11:42 AM
Birdy you make some good strong points.Is the moon not via combusta anymore... Ive been reading up on it right now. And timing wise... How much longer should i wait? My gemini sun is getting impatient. But its whats gotten me in this situation in the first place... But ive been very good holding off but the restlessness is kicking in lol I have most of everything i want to say... I like that taurus is in 3h its my natal asc Ok you can edit out your question... Working on it now. IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted January 07, 2013 12:14 PM
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birdy
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posted January 07, 2013 12:24 PM
Thank you June. IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted January 07, 2013 12:36 PM
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birdy
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posted January 07, 2013 12:46 PM
Back to your question- The moon isnt via combusta(I thought it was at first) but for it to be Moon would be 15 Libra to 15 Scorpio. So it's like 4 degrees since leaving that. Did you guys just leave a unpredictable and unfavorable time where communicating with each other was impossible? Im taking a guess here because of it being so close to it.IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted January 07, 2013 01:19 PM
Communication wasnt impossible just being stubborn both ways... we had a big falling out end of nov/early dec... That halted any further progress in our relationship. Soooo very close to establishing a serious move forward together but It was a hard week for me and i fought with my co worker aswell lol... So its been a bit of an internal struggle to accept things as they are... The J silence didnt bother me much until now. We didnt acknowledge each other for xmas/new years and well it kinda sucked to end the year that way but it happened. Now iam not sure how to proceed further... i dont want to keep quiet... I wanna charge and demand he speak to me... But again, its what got me in this situation in the first place. sometimes i think maybe another woman, but it doesnt fit into my knowledge of how our situation unfolded... Maybe he just gave up completely on me, I dunno iam just stuck. IP: Logged |
birdy
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posted January 07, 2013 02:09 PM
I dont see an indication of another woman in the horary. Although the Female energy is seriously highlighted in this horary with Moon in Scorpio and NN with Moon/Saturn conjunction. Its a fixed sign, with Capricorn energy, so it's not your "lite" type of energy. If he is involved with someone else, it would have to be serious with more time involved with the person. You know him better though. Alternatively, He might be going thru something with a female relative or family issues that keep his mind busy in need of alone time.IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted January 07, 2013 02:43 PM
Ok thanks birdy... I have tons more questions ( sorry mercury in gemini lol) but i think ill leave it for now and wait a little bit longer before casting another chart and seeing where it goes IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted January 07, 2013 03:02 PM
This question is more of a clarification of horary rules, i want to understand for future horaries. Iam really bad at explaining but i get the gist of it lolBut if sun is the man. Ruled by cap
Caps ruler is saturn in scorpio
Saturn is male/father/authority figure Moon is female/Mother or the emotions of the question,
Moon in scorpio is its fall... Negative right? diff between detriment?
Moons ruler is cancer Iam not sure the rule for n.n. Also mars is in aqua
Mars is ruled by aries/scorpio The hard mars/saturn aspects make me think he might be cold and cruel out of spite? IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted January 07, 2013 03:43 PM
Hello Junebug!I am afraid the answer is indeed a No, for a few reasons. One would be significators separating without reception but the most important is the fact that Moon is VOC. She doesn't make any aspects before leaving the sign and often this is interpreted as "nothing will come of it". Meaning that even if you go through with your plan to contact him, you are unlikely to get the result you hope for. Indeed, Moon is not in Via Combusta, recently just got out of there. But Moon is in it's fall and cadent in the 9th, so quite in a bad place right now. I believe Moon shows either you or the situation. You are also Saturn though, in the 8th and you are in Via Combusta, which is also a pretty bad place to be and shows much confusion. Given your placement in VC I wouldn't advise that you make contact with J, because you cannot see anything clear while in VC. You think you have a right grasp on the situation but you don't. Just wait it out a little bit longer, Saturn will leave VC soon. As for the possibility of another woman.. to be honest I can see her. Venus in his 5th house, in his triplicity and he is also in her triplicity. Meaning that they like each other. There is no aspect between them but Venus will soon change signs and will start to chase him. That will happen a bit longer from now though, as she is not even in orb yet. There are also interruptions to her chase so might not happen. But let's say there is some sympathy, and there is *some* intent on her part even though it is unlikely to come to pass at this time. Will need a follow-up horary in a couple of weeks or so. For now, wait things out. It's the best thing you can do, judging from this horary. IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted January 07, 2013 04:50 PM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Hello Junebug!I am afraid the answer is indeed a No, for a few reasons. One would be significators separating without reception but the most important is the fact that Moon is VOC. She doesn't make any aspects before leaving the sign and often this is interpreted as "nothing will come of it". Meaning that even if you go through with your plan to contact him, you are unlikely to get the result you hope for. Indeed, Moon is not in Via Combusta, recently just got out of there. But Moon is in it's fall and cadent in the 9th, so quite in a bad place right now. I believe Moon shows either you or the situation. You are also Saturn though, in the 8th and you are in Via Combusta, which is also a pretty bad place to be and shows much confusion. Given your placement in VC I wouldn't advise that you make contact with J, because you cannot see anything clear while in VC. You think you have a right grasp on the situation but you don't. Just wait it out a little bit longer, Saturn will leave VC soon. As for the possibility of another woman.. to be honest I can see her. Venus in his 5th house, in his triplicity and he is also in her triplicity. Meaning that they like each other. There is no aspect between them but Venus will soon change signs and will start to chase him. That will happen a bit longer from now though, as she is not even in orb yet. There are also interruptions to her chase so might not happen. But let's say there is some sympathy, and there is *some* intent on her part even though it is unlikely to come to pass at this time. Will need a follow-up horary in a couple of weeks or so. For now, wait things out. It's the best thing you can do, judging from this horary.
Thanks for the news Hera happy 2013! i guess our road ended last year. And its done and burned up. What do you mean by sympathy? Looks like divine timing and it has nothing to do with me, as the next woman in... Hope all is well
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Hera
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posted January 07, 2013 04:54 PM
Hey June! Happy New Year to you too!I don't think anything has happened yet, they like each other and it seems mutual but it's nothing very deep. Actually him being ruled by you, in a way, he still thinks like you "own" him. But for the next period of time it doesn't look like things are working out for you two. I am sorry.. IP: Logged |
Junethird
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posted January 07, 2013 05:16 PM
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Originally posted by Hera:
Hey June! Happy New Year to you too!I don't think anything has happened yet, they like each other and it seems mutual but it's nothing very deep. Actually him being ruled by you, in a way, he still thinks like you "own" him. But for the next period of time it doesn't look like things are working out for you two. I am sorry..
And the good news keep on rolling in...lol So when venus moves into cap and conjuncts sun... Then thats it. He could very well be moving on with her then. Mercury is in there too. Can i offer you a tarot question u want answers to?
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Hera
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posted January 08, 2013 07:42 AM
Hmm.. Actually it is not that simple between them. I checked the ephemeris. Well, Venus will move in Cap, but Mercury reaches Sun in 10 days (not sure who Mercury is, if it's a person even), preventing their union. Then Sun moves into Aqua also ruled by you and squares you. That also happens before Venus reaches Sun. So they will not get together - if they will, it will take a while and there will be obstacles, one of them being him revisiting things with you once again (and by his initiative, about a month from now). Right now however, Venus is someone who's on his mind and maybe in his heart and seems to be mutual but nothing concrete has happened between them and won't until a while from now (IF it will, I do not get that from this horary but people have free will). So for now, wait it out. He will contact you again, though it is with a square, you still rule him so make the best of it, put your foot on the ground.
As for the Tarot reading, I would love one even though I am scared to ask lmao. All your other ones were so damn spot on and not so positive lol. But I do want the truth and so yes.. I would appreciate one of your awesome readings. It's about love, what else 
Thank you June!
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Junethird
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posted January 08, 2013 01:08 PM
Hera.. Thanks so much. You gave me A little ray of sunshine in dark times lol ill check horary in a few weeks again and see whats up... No wonder both tarot and charts were telling me to wait... Again with the patience theme....You can edit out your question if you want... I gotta run out and get my day going, but ill work on your question tonight and send it privately. IP: Logged |
Hera
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posted January 08, 2013 02:22 PM
Ok June, private sounds great! No rush, I have all the time in the world lolIP: Logged |
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