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peacefulclouds
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posted January 12, 2014 05:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi, I'm dabbling in horary but still very beginner i hope anyone here would like to offer some insight with my very very newbieish question (regarding the houses)!!

The question was: Is he interested in reconciling with me?

http://imgur.com/fYgQsG4

Since the Ascendant is in Capricorn, my significator is Saturn, which is in Scorpio therefore peregrine. Pretty apt for my situation as I feel lost about the situation.

My quesited would be the Moon (7th house in Cancer?)

If that's the case, right off the bat the prognosis doesn't seem to good because moon and saturn is not aspecting at all?

(Now, I have trouble choosing between 7th house or 11th house as my quesited's significator. We were never in romantic relationship, it was one sided from my part. We had a fallout as a friend a week plus ago (because of this). So the reconciliation would be as friends. Before the fallout, we were close. Should I choose 7th (romance/feelings), or 11th(friendship/wish)? )

Thanks, would love some help

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filleaspirant
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posted January 12, 2014 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Haven't looked at the chart yet as I'm off to bed, but wanted to let you know you should always use the 7th house as another person's significator, even if they are a foe.

Also, have you checked the reception between the planets? Google Lily's table of dignities, find the degree of your significators and see what planet rules that degree according to the table. It might make a no answer into a maybe one.

Hope this helps a little

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imeanj
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posted January 12, 2014 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
There's something about the way this situation is described - that it seems like there are some unspoken romantic feelings, regardless of the 7th house. Likewise, as moon he is in your 5th house.

I would say that Moon and Saturn do not aspect here, so he is not interested in reconciling. Also, though Venus is Rx and also is combust due to the Sun, which would suggest he has a love interest of his own, and he is pre-occupied. Even though he is represented by Moon and that as well as Saturn have no involvement with the grand cross, I would say that this means that everyone involved himself and you are being pulled in a bunch of directions and are looking for balance.

That's it for now...lmk if you have further questions and I will try to help. Hug!

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peacefulclouds
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posted January 12, 2014 09:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you for the clarification and helpful info! After seeing the table, I am not too sure if the answer has changed, seems quite grim.

But if you are willing to take a look at later date and let me know your thoughts, it'll be much appreciated. Mean while I will try to interpret things despite the non-aspecting wish..

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peacefulclouds
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posted January 12, 2014 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by imeanj:
There's something about the way this situation is described - that it seems like there are some unspoken romantic feelings, regardless of the 7th house. Likewise, as moon he is in your 5th house.

I would say that Moon and Saturn do not aspect here, so he is not interested in reconciling. Also, though Venus is Rx and also is combust due to the Sun, which would suggest he has a love interest of his own, and he is pre-occupied. Even though he is represented by Moon and that as well as Saturn have no involvement with the grand cross, I would say that this means that everyone involved himself and you are being pulled in a bunch of directions and are looking for balance.

That's it for now...lmk if you have further questions and I will try to help. Hug!



Imeanj I am sorry I didnt see your reply, thank you kindly for your interpretation!

Venus is combust and retrograde, so you are right since he has a love interest. So, I assume he is getting serious with her from the chart.

You are right about the situation. I will expound, if you have time to read it and maybe it will shed some light to the chart.

We were really good friends and had a somewhat interesting connection, we clicked so well mentally, it was strange for both of us, and there was a lot of warmth. We were never physical, however.

Unfortunately I developed some romantic feeling, as you say, but as far as I know, it was purely from my side. It's not unspoken, he knows how I feel because I told him for the sake of being honest. At the time he was just started seeing someone so he rejected me because he can't see two women at the same time.

One of the reason of the fallout is because I can't see him with his love interest so I have been avoiding him, but one night it came head to head and he wants me to get over it because he does not want to lose our friendship. There were interesting arguments/conversation, and he told me "If it helps to know, I'll say i see you as a sister." (I wished he told me in the very beginning but maybe I'm just being obtuse) in the end of our argument, he told me he loves me. At the time I decided to cut the chord because it hurts too much. (I was also afraid/sad that he meant it as a sister. Eitherway it wasn't the right time to say that at all)

We never talked ever since.

He is also much older than me, 22 years older, separated but not yet divorced. But he is seeing a bartendress from the pub we both go to now and probably getting serious.

(I no longer go there of course, though not out of malice )

So that is my situation.. I miss him but I know it is not fair for the other woman, and also not fair for me. I miss our friendship but at the same time I know that.. maybe this is for the best.

In the chart- him as moon in my 5th signifies as him as my interest but not the other way around, right?

What do you mean we're all seeking for balance from the chart? I know I am peregrine, and it's felt very strongly. But I am not sure about him.

Thank you ImeanJ. I wish I can tell what is he thinking. hugs.

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filleaspirant
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posted January 13, 2014 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for filleaspirant     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi peacefulclouds,

Just came by and read what you've told @imeanj and I want to let you know I've been in the same place where you are. Six years ago, I fell for a friend who didn't reciprocate my romantic feelings for him. I tried all sorts of ways of moving past what I thought was a silly crush, to no avail. Finally, I told him how I felt about him, which surprised him but not enough for him to consider dating me. I asked him to then give me space and time, making it clear to him that I wasn't punishing him, but that I needed distance from him to move on. That was four years ago.

We aren't as close as we were before, but I'm proud to say that we've remained friends, even after my self-imposed distance from him. He understood where I was coming from and respected it (of course he only did so because I did let on that it was hurtful to be around him and not be with him). We are slowly but surely building back a healthy and caring friendship, but it took time to get us here.

Horary speaking, he's peregrine but he's in the sign where you're dignified by triplicity, so I'd say he still cares about you. You're also peregrine, in the sign where he's dignified by triplicity too (so you care about him), which is also the sign of his fall, which makes me think you might be mad at him for not understanding where you're coming from. Overall, I think you both care about each other, but you're mad at him for not reciprocating your feelings and/or for not understanding your pov.

Also, I want to point out that Sun in the 1st house indicates a question of some significance and that a solution will come about quickly; Mercury in the 1st house indicates speed in regard to the matter and may be connected to a document; and Venus in the 1st house would be beneficial if she wasn't afflicted.

Have you thought of reaching out and asking for a time out between you two?

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peacefulclouds
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posted January 13, 2014 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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peacefulclouds
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posted January 13, 2014 10:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by filleaspirant:

Also, I want to point out that Sun in the 1st house indicates a question of some significance and that a solution will come about quickly; Mercury in the 1st house indicates speed in regard to the matter and may be connected to a document; and Venus in the 1st house would be beneficial if she wasn't afflicted.

Have you thought of reaching out and asking for a time out between you two?


Hello filleaspirant. Your words soothe me so, knowing someone else had my experience and overcame it lifts my spirits up
I am not angry at him not reciprocating my feelings.. disappointed, yes but not angry. I am angry at him for undermining my feelings (telling me to get over my 'infatuation' for example.) even if I understood why he said that.. was not out of condenscendingness but more like out of trying to salvage the friendship (in a strange way)

As for the your interpretation, that is interesting. I just thought the combust just mean he is pre-occupied by his love interest which means it's a no for my question.

Mercury signifies document? Hmm...

Ah.. this is where ego comes to play. In the past it had always been me who reached out after a tiff, even if it was just a text... (we had a couple arguments about similar thing, but never this big)

This time I think I made myself clear enough. I did say to him I shouldn't see him for a while, few months or even more because of my feelings (but also added it doesn't mean I hate him, despite my anger at the time)

So I am not too sure about reaching out I know this makes me sound so stubborn and maybe a bit immature. But I think the fact he is not contacting me is there's some level of respect of my wish. Or, he simply doesn't care, but who knows

Does the sign say anything about him and his love interest? If it's doing well for them, I hope the best for him. May I move on in timely manner as well.

Thank you filleaspirant

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imeanj
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posted January 13, 2014 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for imeanj     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think what is important is what you want and for you to find balance. I hate to say this, but I think you are better off - and he thought of this when he chose the other person. The age gap, but also other things.

I feel what is important now is for you to accept the lesson that has been brought to you and find the silver lining in the situation. From reading your responses you seem like you have a good head on your shoulders. Work from there and study some astrology and use it to your advantage.

I've been reading a lot of this blog lately - focused on Chiron, might be up your alley.

http://theinnerwheel.com

Hug and good luck!

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peacefulclouds
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posted January 13, 2014 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for peacefulclouds     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Age gap and other things? Incompatibility/difference in way of thinking perhaps?
Yeah I suppose so. You are right, in the end everything has ran its course.

I was reading the site you gave me, the chiron articles are bang on, it;s scary.

Thank you < I wish him the best, and I will try to move on....

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