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HappyLoewe
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posted July 17, 2014 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HappyLoewe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is the chart of someone in my family but actually getting close to them is on a whole other level ! They only have work colleagues and one personal friend who they see/speak to once every few months, they live alone and have done for years, they never go out, take photos, do anything. No romantic involvement that I know of apart from a one-night stand about 12 years ago. I really don't understand it. Also, they give off a vibe of don't get too close and it really works. Is anyone able to see what the issues are?

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sweet-scorpion
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posted July 17, 2014 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry to hear your relative has struggled so much. I took a look and here are some observations:

1. This person has Sun conjunct Chiron. As a Chironic person myself [I have Moon con. Chiron], this is VERY difficult and leads to some serious issues with, in this case, the ego [Moon would be emotions and subconscious; Sun is ego and conscious]. This person may have serious confidence problems! He/she might feel under appreciated, misunderstood.

2. There is also a wide opposition to Saturn and a closer opposition to Uranus, showing that Chiron's lessons will not be easily integrated into the psyche. Your relative was destined to following the difficult but rewarding path of Chiron - healing others' pain with empathy. Chiron is an asteroid between Uranus and Saturn. One that is both revolutionary and preserving. However, because of this opposition, you'll find this family member is resistant to accessing his/her own true, inner power. Perhaps he/she is afraid of change or what may come of it. Saturn opp. Sun can indicate gloominess, obstacles to overcome with the ego, and a preference for aloneness.

3. The Sun is widely conjunct the IC showing that there is difficulty elevating the ego in a public setting. Gemini influence may point to serious communication issues. Unfortunately, this person's Sun receive no positive outlet from any other planet/asteroid listed here. The Uranus opposition may make this person seem odd, eccentric, and aloof. Add Chiron on top of it, and you have a challenging sense of self that may alienate others as this person makes a kind of lost quest to understand him/herself better without yielding many results. This chart reminds me of The Hermit in Tarot, especially due to the 3/9H axis emphasis with the above planets being discussed. Isolating the self in order to travel far both physically and mentally. Does this person travel to odd locations, and alone?

4. Mercury is quincunx Saturn. This will definitely point to a taciturn, withdrawn, and sometimes gloomy way of communicating and speaking. Mercury straddles the cusp of the 5th. So, I can see this person not being a very lively talker or someone to have fun with. Mercury is in Cancer, too, so I can sense moodiness/reticence due to moody fussiness. This person may have a 'wet blanket' persona (no offense) especially to Fire signs because he/she feels more comfortable being alone and not talking much.

5. Venus is quincunx Pluto which will show an intensely private person. He/she will not trust anyone very easily, if at all, considering the info you've provided. Venus is also quincunx Neptune which shows that fantasy does not align with reality and this is MAJOR disappointment.

6. Moon is in Aquarius: another typically alienating placement in certain cases. Moon is EXACTLY square Pluto which can show some serious unexpected emotional explosions. A very unstable emotional nature. This is a stormy and turbulent individual, but what's worse, he/she hides this turbulence under a cover of aloofness, silence, and coldness. This is definitely one of the roots of the 'stay away' vibe. Moon trine Venus is the only saving grace here, but the exact square to Pluto is a huge concern. Relationship with Mom likely had a very abnormal, controlling air that did real damage and led to trust issues later in life....

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HappyLoewe
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posted July 17, 2014 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for HappyLoewe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by sweet-scorpion:
Sorry to hear your relative has struggled so much. I took a look and here are some observations:

1. This person has Sun conjunct Chiron. As a Chironic person myself [I have Moon con. Chiron], this is VERY difficult and leads to some serious issues with, in this case, the ego [Moon would be emotions and subconscious; Sun is ego and conscious]. This person may have serious confidence problems! He/she might feel under appreciated, misunderstood.

2. There is also a wide opposition to Saturn and a closer opposition to Uranus, showing that Chiron's lessons will not be easily integrated into the psyche. Your relative was destined to following the difficult but rewarding path of Chiron - healing others' pain with empathy. Chiron is an asteroid between Uranus and Saturn. One that is both revolutionary and preserving. However, because of this opposition, you'll find this family member is resistant to accessing his/her own true, inner power. Perhaps he/she is afraid of change or what may come of it. Saturn opp. Sun can indicate gloominess, obstacles to overcome with the ego, and a preference for aloneness.

3. The Sun is widely conjunct the IC showing that there is difficulty elevating the ego in a public setting. Gemini influence may point to serious communication issues. Unfortunately, this person's Sun receive no positive outlet from any other planet/asteroid listed here. The Uranus opposition may make this person seem odd, eccentric, and aloof. Add Chiron on top of it, and you have a challenging sense of self that may alienate others as this person makes a kind of lost quest to understand him/herself better without yielding many results. This chart reminds me of The Hermit in Tarot, especially due to the 3/9H axis emphasis with the above planets being discussed. Isolating the self in order to travel far both physically and mentally. Does this person travel to odd locations, and alone?

4. Mercury is quincunx Saturn. This will definitely point to a taciturn, withdrawn, and sometimes gloomy way of communicating and speaking. Mercury straddles the cusp of the 5th. So, I can see this person not being a very lively talker or someone to have fun with. Mercury is in Cancer, too, so I can sense moodiness/reticence due to moody fussiness. This person may have a 'wet blanket' persona (no offense) especially to Fire signs because he/she feels more comfortable being alone and not talking much.

5. Venus is quincunx Pluto which will show an intensely private person. He/she will not trust anyone very easily, if at all, considering the info you've provided. Venus is also quincunx Neptune which shows that fantasy does not align with reality and this is MAJOR disappointment.

6. Moon is in Aquarius: another typically alienating placement in certain cases. Moon is EXACTLY square Pluto which can show some serious unexpected emotional explosions. A very unstable emotional nature. This is a stormy and turbulent individual, but what's worse, he/she hides this turbulence under a cover of aloofness, silence, and coldness. This is definitely one of the roots of the 'stay away' vibe. Moon trine Venus is the only saving grace here, but the exact square to Pluto is a huge concern. Relationship with Mom likely had a very abnormal, controlling air that did real damage and led to trust issues later in life....


Dear Sweet-Scorpion, thanks so much. It is a female and I have to admit that I don't see/speak to them often but they definitely have this aloof vibe which you have mentioned repeatedly. They don't appear to trust anyone and I've noticed that the fear of emotionally intimacy is crippling, especially if a man pays her attention. She does what she can to rebuff/rebuke their attention. She seems to prefer not to impose herself on anyone or to even bother anyone. I don't ever remember her asking for help. I do feel that she doesn't get enough acknowledgement when she does do something for someone. I also believe that she may have some sort of psychic/healing ability as I've noted that people tend to seek her out to relieve themselves of their problems. I wish I could be around her more and observe her more often because I find her totally fascinating. It really is like she is a one-woman band that eats, drinks, and feeds itself emotionally. Its amazing. I wonder about the lack of love in someone's life which might send them doo-lally after a while but she seems to always survive. She appears very normal but I reckon she must hid all of the turmoil and struggle like you said. I think her path is to help/heal other people and always before asking or needing anything for herself. I do hope she finds someone for herself eventually and allows them in to feel what love is like and to bask in its glow

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sweet-scorpion
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posted July 17, 2014 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sweet-scorpion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by HappyLoewe:
Dear Sweet-Scorpion, thanks so much. It is a female and I have to admit that I don't see/speak to them often but they definitely have this aloof vibe which you have mentioned repeatedly. They don't appear to trust anyone and I've noticed that the fear of emotionally intimacy is crippling, especially if a man pays her attention. She does what she can to rebuff/rebuke their attention. She seems to prefer not to impose herself on anyone or to even bother anyone. I don't ever remember her asking for help. I do feel that she doesn't get enough acknowledgement when she does do something for someone. I also believe that she may have some sort of psychic/healing ability as I've noted that people tend to seek her out to relieve themselves of their problems. I wish I could be around her more and observe her more often because I find her totally fascinating. It really is like she is a one-woman band that eats, drinks, and feeds itself emotionally. Its amazing. I wonder about the lack of love in someone's life which might send them doo-lally after a while but she seems to always survive. She appears very normal but I reckon she must hid all of the turmoil and struggle like you said. I think her path is to help/heal other people and always before asking or needing anything for herself. I do hope she finds someone for herself eventually and allows them in to feel what love is like and to bask in its glow

You are welcome. I'm glad I could provide some insights about her character. It seems that she has tuned into some of her Chrionic powers, then. That is good. I feel like the opposition between her Sun-Chiron in H3 and Uranus-Saturn in H9 will be challenging...however if she can overcome her problems she will have a well developed mind. She just needs to learn to trust others and regulate her emotions without controlling others in the process. '

Everyone needs love and human contact, even the 'Hermits' of our world - she is a true Hermit in the sense of the tarot, but she needs to learn the value of bonding, of course. If she can find someone who can tap into her Moon-Venus trine - someone who can understand her delicate emotional needs b/c of difficult past experiences or a bad childhood - she will have an easier time being herself in love. Finding a fellow intellectual will be important due to the Air emphasis in her chart.

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