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Topic: Wealth - Aspects by sign/association vs by degree
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Aatifah21
Knowflake Posts: 113
From: bloobleeblah.
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 15, 2016 03:24 PM
  
Hi all :-)
So to keep it short and sweet, we know that when it comes to wealth in the natal, most will look for aspects between Venus, Jupiter or Pluto, as well as planets in the 2nd, 8th and 11th houses, the rulers of those houses, etc.My question is, how would aspects by sign factor into that? I'll provide my chart details but I'm asking this in a general sense. In my chart, my Venus, Pluto and Jupiter are all in the same sign (Scorpio) but not conjunct: Sun 29°37' Scorpio
Moon 8°51' Pisces
Mercury 10°02' Scorpio
Venus 16°05' Scorpio
Mars 9°10' Sagittarius
Jupiter 2°25' Scorpio
Saturn 24°10' Aquarius
Uranus 19°29' Capricorn
Neptune 19°07' Capricorn
Pluto 25°36' Scorpio
Chiron 8°22' Virgo
Ceres 23°33' Я Aries
Pallas 25°11' Aquarius
Juno 15°03' Libra
Vesta 3°52' Pisces
Node 3°03' Я Sagittarius
Lilith 9°47' Я Aries
Fortune 29°07' Aquarius
AS 8°21' Gemini
MC 14°02' Aquarius
House 1 8°21' Gemini
House 2 1°04' Cancer
House 3 21°29' Cancer
House 4 14°02' Leo
House 5 13°17' Virgo
House 6 23°36' Libra
House 7 8°21' Sagittarius
House 8 1°04' Capricorn
House 9 21°29' Capricorn
House 10 14°02' Aquarius
House 11 13°17' Pisces
House 12 23°36' Aries
So how would that translate, relating to accumulating wealth? Would it mean that I would try try try and never quite get there? Does it mean that the link is not that strong so it might take longer for me to get there? I will say I am very preoccupied with building wealth and I invest heavily and save as much as possible. I've always beliebved that I would be wealthy of my own accord and I'm very interested in my finances. But just looking at my Venus, Jupiter and Pluto alone without taking houses into account, how would the aspect by association factor into my accumulation of wealth. Or, judging my by aspects, what would you say is the way I'd most likely accumulate wealth? Lottery? Investments? Marrying rich? Etc ------------------
Asc Gemini
Sun Scorpio 6th
Moon Pisces 10th
Mercury Scorpio 6th
Venus Scorpio 6th
Mars Sagittarius 7th
Jupiter Scorpio 6th
Saturn Aquarius 10th
Uranus Capricorn 8th
Neptune Capricorn 8th
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LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 17945
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 15, 2016 04:32 PM
Hi, why would you disregard wealth house/rulers? for this is how it's read.  I can take a look, if you post your chart, but I can only do it with my own method, which is pretty standard, in fact ------------------
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Aatifah21
Knowflake Posts: 113
From: bloobleeblah.
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 15, 2016 04:42 PM
Hi LeeLoo
Thanks for responding! It's not so much that I want to ignore the houses, it's just that my questions was about aspects by association and I wanted make sure someone could explain to me how that dynamic plays out (vs aspects by degree). Please see my chart below. Thanks![IMG]  [ IMG] ------------------
Asc Gemini
Sun Scorpio 6th
Moon Pisces 10th
Mercury Scorpio 6th
Venus Scorpio 6th
Mars Sagittarius 7th
Jupiter Scorpio 6th
Saturn Aquarius 10th
Uranus Capricorn 8th
Neptune Capricorn 8th
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LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 17945
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 15, 2016 04:48 PM
Thank you  but please post an astrodienst chart, and with standard aspects, no "aspect lines to all"The procedure is to look at houses first, then house rulers, and then the aspects between planets, or let's say we actually look at all these at the same time, but there is this logical movement, since the aspects are between sign/house/rulership elements (the planets) and they don't have much value per se. The aspects, I mean Their interpretation is in context, it is not generalized. ------------------
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Aatifah21
Knowflake Posts: 113
From: bloobleeblah.
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 15, 2016 04:55 PM
Hi LeeLoo,I'm a novice to astrology haha so when it comes to houses and house rulers I start getting confused... :-/ Please see my astro finest chart below. Also, please advise if you see anything else that stands out (good or bad)?  IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 17945
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 15, 2016 05:11 PM
Good chances of wealth here, it comes in two stages: the first one is related to a partnership, it doesn't have to be a husband, but clearly a partner met through work. Then this partnership triggers a chain of events of 8th house nature: an investment that can lead to big gains, or even an inheritance. Both sudden, and much bigger than expected, a cash flow (Neptune) but like everything sudden, it can be lost just the same, especially with Neptune there; however, them being in Cap, combined with this moment when your whole 10th house intervenes, you can divide this investment - offshore accounts are also suggested, I don't recommend though, that would be a tricky path, try offshore properties instead - and use the wisdom of Saturn/Pallas. Like all gains, this sudden windfall will be a test for you. Remember that everything we receive, we do it for the benefit of all, there is a flow pouring from someplace else towards us (Neptune) that belongs to all (Neptune). Remember that, and yes, you can make a fortune You will work very hard though, all your life, with or without this wealth, and the more you have, the more you will work, and you will be somehow "prisoner" to it, so make sure this is what you wish With that Moon/Mars you will be tempted to spend a lot, and if you do, you will lose this sudden gain very very quickly. The same goes if you get excessively stingy. So your challenge and spiritual lesson when it comes to finances is to integrate and balance the 2 contrasting sq, Sun/Saturn (with Pluto) and Moon/Mars and direct them both towards a cause that is greater than yourself and your current existence. Good luck!  ------------------
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Aatifah21
Knowflake Posts: 113
From: bloobleeblah.
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 15, 2016 05:19 PM
Hi LeeLoo,Thank you for this in depth interpretation! I have a few questions: 1 - how can you see that the person who will spur this wealth will be met through work? What in my chart suggests that? 2 - the "working hard" part: exactly how hard am I going to have to work, and will it be enjoyable? Im 22 now, but I've always envisioned being able to retire when I'm 30, or at least have the choice to travel and enjoy life by then and know that my finances are in order. The 'being a prisoner" thing is alarming, can you elaborate or give an example of what you mean? 3 - exactly what are the possible sources of these windfalls? Lottery? I am very careful with my finances now and I diversify my investments. What are the chances of the Neptune in 8th interfering with that and could the fact that Neptune is in Capricorn protect my finances and keep them in order? IP: Logged |
LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 17945
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 15, 2016 06:16 PM
Not lottery, a partnership, either marriage or joint partnership. I explained how you can capitalize your gain. The prison comes from betting on one thing, or having too much focus on one thing, especially money, money looks like they free you, and they can free you, if you are also free from them, if it makes sense. Sometimes when we want too much, or just one thing, we end up dedicating our life to that thing, this is the prison. You have to start enjoying your life now, money won't give you this.
My interpretation comes from your chart overall, but one important marker for the partner is 2nd house ruler sq nodal/DSC config with Mars, and your partner could be a big spender too (Juno config).EDIT' your life is mostly about work, 6th and 10th emphasis, and the partner is connected there too, on several levels. ------------------
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Aatifah21
Knowflake Posts: 113
From: bloobleeblah.
Registered: Aug 2012
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posted May 15, 2016 07:27 PM
Oooooh you're scaring me with the work emphasis, I feel like I'm meant to be a slave! :-(Will it at least be work I enjoy? I mean, I do enjoy working as long as I'm doing something I like. I've been working since I was 14, and I have excellent work ethic. I love being of service, as long as my work is genuinely appreciated, and I feel appreciated. If this is what you mean by emphasis on work, then I can understand that. I've always thought that I would own a few businesses and a particular non-profit I wanted to start. I'm not afraid to work but I definitely will need to be able to take a random vacation every once in a while, you know, "me-time". Time with the kids, with the husband, with friends, etc. I just don't see myself doing the 9-5 thing all my life, so I guess that's what scared me initially. If you meant my life would be all about work concerning businesses I've started, then I say bring it on! Thank you so much for taking the time out to respond! There have been a few times I've asked some beginner questions and it was like a ghost town! I sincerely appreciate it. Have a great evening! ------------------
Asc Gemini
Sun Scorpio 6th
Moon Pisces 10th
Mercury Scorpio 6th
Venus Scorpio 6th
Mars Sagittarius 7th
Jupiter Scorpio 6th
Saturn Aquarius 10th
Uranus Capricorn 8th
Neptune Capricorn 8th
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LeeLoo2014
Knowflake Posts: 17945
From: Venus cornering Neptune
Registered: Mar 2014
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posted May 16, 2016 03:24 PM
Sorry, I didn't mean for it to sound so negative. It is just a reminder to keep a balance with your life plans, I guess I think you will enjoy working, and yes, the work seems to be mostly about your business, and something you are dearly invested in. You're welcome!------------------
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