posted April 29, 2021 11:45 PM            

Thanks!

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posted May 12, 2021 01:20 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Sun conjunct Chiron in 8th house may signal an issue since his birth. it may be hereditary/genetic, since it is opposite Uranus in second house and square to Jupiter in the 4th house... jupiter is also the ruler of 2nd house, where also Saturn is. Sun Chiron and Mercury in Gemini, and Uranus in second house, they may point to neurological issue.

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posted May 12, 2021 01:24 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Sun conjunct Chiron in 8th house may signal an issue since his birth. it may be hereditary/genetic, since it is opposite Uranus in second house and square to Jupiter in the 4th house... jupiter is also the ruler of 2nd house, where also Saturn is. Sun Chiron and Mercury in Gemini, and Uranus in second house, they may point to neurological issue.

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posted May 12, 2021 06:41 AM            

When I stopped eating vegetables as much, a lot of my pain became way less.

posted May 17, 2021 03:22 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
Hi Laylay,

Reynauds syndrome is a autoimmune disease, it may have a psychosomatic root, but it's mainly linked to immune system, and it can also be linked to diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis. did any neurologist ever explore this link?

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posted May 17, 2021 03:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
I've got my own fair share of issues that cause pain due to autoimmune diseases that got activated, and I've found what I consume also has an impact on my pain levels.

When I stopped eating vegetables as much, a lot of my pain became way less.

Just last week I decided to have some mixed veggies and then in the middle of the night I experienced nearly debilitating chest and arm pain. Everything was inflamed. So mainly I just eat fish and some meats and it keeps my pain levels down. Since then I've narrowed it down and found I can at least have some lettuce and cabbage and broccoli as veggies via elimination and reintroduction over time. But some just make things worse. I know this isn't an astro related answer but this is just an idea to throw out there - it could be something to try or a direction to investigate to at least alleviate some pain.

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posted May 17, 2021 11:00 AM            

I took more time, and EDITED.
(Next post is 'better' worded.)
Had NO idea that 'this' post had gone through--

posted May 17, 2021 12:14 PM            

Just expressing a general gripe here, not meant to be AT anyone here.

~~
RE the word "Psycho-somatic" ...
That word, used by some, is subtly meant as a "put down" of the person that suffers, and for which medical-science, as it stands, is not advanced-enough to diagnose. Plus there are incompetent people in positions they have no 'calling' or 'talent' for--- certainly 'low' on the empathy-scale.
. .
This word acts like "code" for
"this person is faking it!"--
They are mentally weak.
"There's really nothing wrong with them-- They are attention-seeking-- drug-seeking; wants to get out of work." This person is "yukky, inferior, silly, and psycho."

Story ---
I'm an older person, born in the 1950s. I have an immune disorder involving my thyroid gland. The thyroid is the 'master gland' in the body.
..
When I was going through puberty, my thyroid started acting-up.. or 'down'?? LOL. I'd visit doctors for the next almost 18 years. The doc would say, aha!-- your "symptoms" point at a low thyroid hormone output. They'd give me the general 'test' (that they had at that time), then say NOPE, it's NOT your thyroid. .... They couldn't determine 'what' my "problem" was.
In the mean time, I {body} was sooo tired all the time, even got depressed {a symptom, including}, the hair on my eyebrows got very sparse, my face and body got 'puffy', my very-thick hair started thinning out. I felt 'cold' when other people felt fine. .... These are some of the symptoms of low thyroid hormone.
. .
Speed ahead to my first Saturn Return.
I had just given birth. My energy was low and I had to keep forcing-self to 'find' the energy to care for my newborn baby whom I was breast-feeding.
..
We had a Christening Party when she was around 2 (or 4) months old. One of my brothers had come with his girlfriend-- She was a nurse.
From ACROSS the room, she pointed at my throat and said "You need to go see your doctor about that right away." My neck had developed what looked like a thick rope around it-- Had developed a 'goiter'. {Thyroid was 'over working' to TRY to make the hormone my body needed for 'energy'. Metabolism of the food I ate.}
..
The doctor gave me a test, and said my body was going into "shock". {I could have dropped over and died!}.
My hormone readings showed extremely low. He took out some pills, and told me to take one every day, and that after a while, I would start feeling a whole LOT better.
Took 3 whole years for my thyroid to work WITH the hormone-supplement given. I remember the actual moment it started to work. I could show you the 'spot' on earth I was standing on. .. hurray!! finally.
The growth went away when my body didn't have to work SOO hard.
Actually? .. My body 'thinks' that my organ, The Thyroid, is a foreign enemy in the body and my immune system is 'rejecting' that organ, trying to kill it. Thyroid is still trying to manufacture life-giving hormone, but now has 'help' in the form of the supplement.
Organ rejection. {immune system}

So! What was "the difference"???
WHY did the doctor find it NOW?

Medical Science had begun to study thyroid more, and created more sensitive 'testing' that could pick-up that there was a problem when the "usual" test was negative yet the patient showed clear symptoms.
Also!! A woman going through pregnancy, birthing the baby, and breast feeding has placed extra-demand on the Thyroid gland. In the "olden days" LOL, low thyroid problems would NOT show up on tests UNTIL the woman has a baby!!

Neurology is still a developing medical science. ...
When a person has to have an operation for a physical tumor on their brain, they PLACE that patient in the hospital's PSYCH floor!!! , where they don't receive the best care due to '~attitudes' by the workers!!

I remember too, an episode of TV show "Touched by an Angel". She accidently wound up unconscious and with a physical injury, and since it affected her memory, she wound up 'in the system'. They gave her a neuroleptic {drug for people that are psychotic!} and she had 'the.WORST' side-effects come out of taking that drug.
Towards the end of course, her 'own' people found her. They were able to convince a Judge that she wasn't 'crazy'.. she was reacting to the side-effects of the drug. He let her out of her 'situation'. But, the 'attitudes' the supposedly 'professional workers' treated her with, was positively AWFUL. {And a place where a lot of 'reform' is needed.}

They give people who have physical obvious neurological problems {like shaking limbs} these very potent "psych-drugs" with awful side-effects -- as though they were 'crazy-people' and their neuro-physical problem is "all in their head" (i.e. doesn't showing up as 'physical evidence' on the x-rays)!
No so-called "oroof" for their symptoms! {Like, they're making it all up because of being ~just-mentally-weak?}

It's good that there are Celebrities fighting stigma right now. I despair when I see MEAN people being so CRUEL to others, because of some kind of handicap, neuro or otherwise. Torques me off!!
(oh my... *laughing at self*)

Laylay... Part of the reason I SAY all this, is because your Boyfriend must be encountering some super-bad ~attitudes from ignorant medical staff people!!!, and those outside the profession.
.. I've seen it. ..

You'd THINK that so-called trained "professionals" would be more Advanced people, ... NOPE. Some folks can be SOOO CRUEL.
{I myself for-now, have to take pain pills for a condition caused by long exposure to neighbors with loud bass woofers!! It affected my nerve-system, making it sensitive to the 'vibration' put out by POWERFUL systems, without being able to 'escape' it in this small apartment. Haven't been able to 'move' because I'm elderly, on fixed income, and poor! ~duh}

I'd love that more Education would be given (on television shows) that stamp-out "the shame" when it comes to neural problems, versus, someone having a psychotic problem.

Past History
... I guess a part of 'why' these things upset me SO much, is from something I Witnessed in my childhood (8 yo).
My paternal grandfather was only in his early 50s. {Chiron Return??}
He was suddenly diagnosed with a malignant tumor on his brain, early 1960s, and given just-months to live. They operated to help relieve pressure.
There were symptoms associated with his brain starting to malfunction.
He started (they say) being 'belligerent', aggressive, was losing the ability to walk to the bathroom and use the toilet by himself.
.. What I "picked up on" was "SHAME".
The relatives were kind of belittling him. This was an Awesome and Mighty Man!! Taurus. The 'way' they talked, criticizing him, sounded shameful!! They were shaming him for this strongman being too weak to help his own self.
I felt so sad.. It was a deep put-down of him. Someone who had BEEN the Hub of the Family. Leader.
Now, they were shaming him. Acting like he did it on purpose. Their faces reflecting such dismell.
Getting Attention?? omg...!!! bleh.
_____

Word Psycho'somatic?
.. They need to change the word? People can be sooo cruel.

It is TRUE that the mind affects the body.
No question about it.
psycho=mind, soma=body.
Mind-Body connection.
New Age philosophies had beat them to it, a LONG time ago. LOL.

___________

Anyway, Laylay..
I really hope that SCIENCE will have more Discoveries, more Innovations, so that your Boyfriend can 'solve' this debilitating pain he's been in.

You are Awesome, for being someone who has been sticking by him, through all this. KUDOS. *Heart*

REFERENCES

Medical Astrology ---
I have always been SO Impressed at the way that Astrology can give Medical Insights. Reveal things that 'might' be on the horizon for a person. Something they should keep in mind, just in case.

And yes, the Gemini planet-placements can point to possible nerve-problems. And, nervous-problems.

My own thyroid problems show-up in my chart.
6th House ruler! and other things I've read in a Medical Astrology book I own.
. .
In the time I've been at Lindaland,
we've had threads leading to Medical Astrology discussions in the LL "Health and Healing" forum.
We've helped people 'find' that they had (for example) thyroid issues in the chart-- which the doctor later validated.

History
Did you know that in the early 1900's that every doctor-in-training had been required to know some astrology-- How to cast and read a Decumbiture Chart, to assist a diagnosis?

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"In astrology a decumbiture chart is an inception chart that is cast for the moment that a person lays down or takes to their bed as a result of becoming ill.

The decumbiture chart is essentially an inception or commencement chart for the illness itself, and it is used in medical astrology in order to determine information about the nature and course of the illness.

The practice is apparently very old, dating back to the early Hellenistic tradition.
It was especially used in late Medieval and Renaissance Europe when most doctors had some training in astrology, in order to help diagnose and treat patients.

- http://theastrologydictionary.com/d/decumbiture-chart/

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The 6th, 8th, and 12th Houses are
Medical Houses.
This URL has some great information.
Prolific Author, Do a search for her books.

Astrologer Judith Hill
pdf notes from astrology conference.
49 pages
- http://norwac.net/wp-content/uploads/Hill_Medical-Astrology-workshop.pdf

.. Informative easy to read Charts!
.. Celebrities in Crisis .. includes Death transits

Best of Luck to your Both!

(music) Cells, Planets {Same thing} :Saturn:
(Erika Lloyd, arr Peterson, Avante acapella, Vid! wow!!)
[6:15] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQMOH4C7CAc

Another book, about History--
Benson Bobrick, The Fated Sky
Astrology in History, 2005.

posted May 18, 2021 01:27 AM            

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Originally posted by Amoranthaniela:
I've got my own fair share of issues that cause pain due to autoimmune diseases that got activated, and I've found what I consume also has an impact on my pain levels.

When I stopped eating vegetables as much, a lot of my pain became way less.

Just last week I decided to have some mixed veggies and then in the middle of the night I experienced nearly debilitating chest and arm pain. Everything was inflamed. So mainly I just eat fish and some meats and it keeps my pain levels down. Since then I've narrowed it down and found I can at least have some lettuce and cabbage and broccoli as veggies via elimination and reintroduction over time. But some just make things worse. I know this isn't an astro related answer but this is just an idea to throw out there - it could be something to try or a direction to investigate to at least alleviate some pain.

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posted May 18, 2021 01:30 AM            

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Originally posted by Laylay:
Yes and unfortunately there are no issues there. He will be seeing an endocrinologist and vascular specialist to rule out any issues into that area as well x

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posted May 18, 2021 01:31 AM            

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Originally posted by Laylay:
Thankyou for your reply, yes we thought this could be linked and did a microbiome test and blood test to check his gut health and immune response. His gut health was absolutely perfect, intact better than mine. There were no signs of inflammation
Sorry to hear of your issues that must be frustrating to live with !

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posted May 18, 2021 03:20 AM            

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Originally posted by KNG9:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Laylay:
[b] Thankyou for your reply, yes we thought this could be linked and did a microbiome test and blood test to check his gut health and immune response. His gut health was absolutely perfect, intact better than mine. There were no signs of inflammation
Sorry to hear of your issues that must be frustrating to live with !

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posted May 18, 2021 03:23 AM            

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Originally posted by KNG9:
When you say 'there are no issues there' you just mean that the doctors have not made a diagnosis of autoimmune disease. often there are no definitive tests... it really doesn't matter what doctors say sometimes you have to find things out for yourself they are often educated idiots with a reductionist framework.. they have no sense of a body as a holistic system and their testing is not always effective for picking up many autoimmune issues.

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posted May 18, 2021 12:17 PM            

Yes, we can pray and hope that Innovations come.

I've heard that once Neptune clears the sign of Pisces, and enters Aries -- and during that time, there will be other long-term transits changing signs that will 'add' -- Neptune in Aries {in past history} has marked times of astounding Medical discoveries and innovations.

Hoping for BOTH of you, a swift resolution for what's going on.

Much Love!

posted May 19, 2021 02:45 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
"The pain itself he describes is in his hip area and radiates through his buttocks and down his legs.
I'm sure one day we will get to the root cause."

this sounds simply like sciatic pain, did he have a spinal MRI scan to search for slipped disk?

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posted May 19, 2021 02:48 AM            

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Originally posted by mirage29:
Laylay Thank you soo much for your kind reply. ... I want to say again, what an awesome soul you have that you stick by him even IN his harsh health mystery.

Yes, we can pray and hope that Innovations come.

I've heard that once Neptune clears the sign of Pisces, and enters Aries -- and during that time, there will be other long-term transits changing signs that will 'add' -- Neptune in Aries {in past history} has marked times of astounding Medical discoveries and innovations.

Hoping for BOTH of you, a swift resolution for what's going on.

Much Love!

{Stoika.. you rock}

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posted May 19, 2021 03:09 AM            

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Originally posted by Laylay:
Yes a recent MRI showed a slightly bulging disc in his lower back that has only started to develop recently but was advised that it is normal due to aging and this will happen with most people. He doesnt think it has anything to so with his pain though as it started when he was 16 (no spinal issues could be seen at that time).
I wonder if it's possibly deep vein thrombosis or something similar but we will see a vascular specialist and see what they say

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posted May 19, 2021 07:25 AM            

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Originally posted by Stoika7:
I have been struggling with sciatic pain since 20 years, very disabling situation, had also surgeries that didnt work out, but the thing is that it all was caused by a very small bulging disk and most doctors didnt think it was big deal, when it actually was because in the end it was clear that I had a stenosis, which is the spine channel too narrow, entrapping the nerve. Obviously your boyfriend case may be completely different, but consider that my stenosis wasnt diagnosed for 15 years simply cause most doctors werent able to see it in the MRI, but one only neurosurgeon, who told me this narrow channel was mainly congenital and the bulging disk was a consequence of this, not the cause... In any case I am not convinced about a vascular issue since he would have different symptoms, swollen and hot leg, and he would have had major consequences by this time... Maybe he should attempt a electromiogram to check the nerve root path and where the pain comes from, from your description of the symptoms I would rather go to a neurosurgeon just because in my longtime experience/nightmare they turned out to be the only ones able to understand the cause of my issue. It may just be a postural issue that became chronic and he may just need physical training. In any case, I would suggest him to try acupuncture and also glucosamine, in case its a chronic arthritis...

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