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Housen
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posted July 18, 2021 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Housen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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mirage29
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posted July 18, 2021 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey... What's going on?

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Housen
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posted July 19, 2021 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Housen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
Hey... What's going on?

I feel like I don’t know what to do with myself, there seem to be too many influences on my who I am and it’s hard to integrate all of them 😪

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posted July 19, 2021 12:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations!! {{Heart}} You are in the thick of Saturn square Uranus {double whammy} transit. In fact, everyone in your age group is going through the same Stressful transit right now.

Part of what your age-transit does is to present you with ALL the concepts, principles, values that were given to you throughout life up until 'this' point. These have been given to you subconsciously -- imprinted, especially throughout events from your teen years-- your friend-influences.

Your Mission right now is to be going through all your values, and deciding your 'own' individual values that you'll take with you up until your first Saturn Return.

Some values your friends, parents, teachers, authority figures presented you with DO fit your personal-own values. Keep those on your Menu. The ones you've outgrown, you can gently kindly set aside.

You are defining 'who you are' .. who you 'want' to be, for your Future. .. You are RIGHT WHERE you ought to be right now. Give yourself Credit! If you're 'feeling' like you don't know, then, you ARE doing the Work your chart nudges you into right now.

HAVE YOU RECEIVED your COVID VACCINATIONs?
If not, that's a really good idea that you do that now... Protect your Health.

Also, guard against too much STRESS...
I know that can be really hard to do?..
Too much tension (and worrying) is not nice to your body ... Work on ways to bring down your stress levels, best you can. Lots of 'anxiety' in the General Air right now..

Do you have any kind of spiritual practice?

Are your parents especially religious, or heavy in politics?
(How about you?)

Is there a special Cause you'd like to stand up for in your life right now? Some kind of passion (from things going on in the world)? {If you don't that's okay.}
If you do? .. What are you interested in?
Is there anything you want to fight for, socially?

There's a reason I'm asking you all these questions, based on your Chart, and, things going on in the world right now.

Are you living in the USA?

Are you still living in the parental home?
Ready to make the break, if you are?

How's your relationship with your Father?

You've got QUITE a Chart!! Grand Cardinal Cross -- that's not easy. You came here to earth with a purpose! There's a ton of stress (and some restrictions) that must be mastered and balanced. And when you DO, o m g. What potential!!

Have you decided on a Career yet?
What field did you decide on?
Was/Is your Education a match for what you WANT to do in your Life?

Do you REALIZE how Talented you are???
The Influence you can possibly Have?

You were born close to an ECLIPSE.
That's a special chart too--
Ups and downs... and possible great accomplishments that come with it.

All the lunations right now are DESIGNED to help you with your questions... *Love*

I can 'see' where and how the unsureness you might have is set into the chart, and it was through your upbringing. The things going on in your parental home.
You're concluding a transit to your Neptune, that might have brought some self-doubt and extra worrying?.. Be glad that this influence is waning from your chart transits. Eventually will lift off the challenges to that, in your life.
(Saturn conjunct Neptune)
Faster moving planets and the Moon can briefly bring those things you've gone through as a reminder.

All is happening to assist you! To know 'who' you are, tests your reality and reveals talents and parts of you that you might not have known were there to work 'for' you. Help you to grow good Strength from WITHIN self (Your nep on IC, opp MC).
Some religions can take you TO God.. but unless you have The Divine 'REALIZED' on the INSIDE, then you are not getting 'everything' you need, for your personal Journey. Know who and what you are from the INSIDE== not what others define you as. What is TRUE for 'you'...? *heart* .. Believe 'that'.
It's also good to be able to 'adjust' those beliefs, as you grow in knowledge, and gain Wisdom through experiences. Your Grand Squares are in 'fixed' energies... adopt the ability to 'be' who you are, yet still versatile, teachable, adaptable, mutable. Maintain a "teachable" spirit.

At your age now, part of the task is to Individualize (know and decide 'who' you are, for your own self, WITHIN Society).

Like I said, some things you'll like and want to Keep (Value wise).


SPEAKING in a GENERAL Way,
to the Collective of your Soul Groups.
. .
One of challenges of your particular age/soul group is that of "being different." Cultivating your UNIQUE values to set oneself as BEING more 'different' from everyone else. Thing is? That can also come to work against you. Being eccentric for the sake of being eccentrics .. might be fun. Lots of genius thinking... HOWEVER.. when trying to 'be unique' JUST FOR the sake of 'being unique'.. you'll need to realize that you-all ARE the budding leaders of Tomorrow!
. .
Your generation will be TASKED to come together and make good practical plans that work for EVERY Individual.
(You Housen, have a Gift to help with that.
Mercury quintile Saturn .. practicality, is a skill you can hone that can really serve self and others. *thumbsup* )
Pluto in your 2nd House, trines several planets.
Shows inherent talents you may discover you have.
With natal Venus in your 11th house of friends and associates, you may find that you HAVE the backing you need.
You're getting ready for your VENUS Return now.
Do something pleasurable and Lovely that day for yourself.
. .
There's a lot of hidden wonderful Potential when your Group can deeply discover each other.

Can be Revolutionaries for BEST Causes in this World, that desperately is coming to NEED that now. To bring Humanitarians to the forefront-- saving lives, and building anew after so much destruction.

Housen, you have been given a special Talent by God/Higher-Power. Mercury is pretty prominent in your chart. Transiting Sun is coming to conjunct it in these next few days. Then as the Sun goes into LEO, it will be on your MC, into your 10th... and you'll be getting ready for your Solar Return on the 9th of August? *congrats*

You're also going to have your Venus Return in time for the next Full Moon Aquarius on July 23. This Moon will conjunct your IC-Neptune... Which may highlight matters dealing your Mother?
{How is your relationship with her?}
Consider the influence that your Mother has had on your Values too-- What do you wish to Keep? Which of her values are you going to set-aside for a while?

How exciting for you ...
You're in a time of discovery and Choices.
Building the INNER You.

What are you going to reject, or keep for your own self's future?... (rhetorical)

I've asked a lot of questions.
You can choose to answer, or not! LOL

But KNOW that you are feeling/considering is exactly where you're supposed to be/do in your life right now.

Try not to be 'impulsive'.
Consider the consequences.
Do your research.

You Are A Child of The Universe!
(music) Desiderata (Les Crane, lyrics)
[4:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsYon_3Vlak
You Have a Right to Be Here

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Housen
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posted July 20, 2021 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Housen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
Congratulations!! {{Heart}} You are in the thick of Saturn square Uranus {double whammy} transit. In fact, everyone in your age group is going through the same Stressful transit right now.

Part of what your age-transit does is to present you with ALL the concepts, principles, values that were given to you throughout life up until 'this' point. These have been given to you subconsciously -- imprinted, especially throughout events from your teen years-- your friend-influences.

Your Mission right now is to be going through all your values, and deciding your 'own' individual values that you'll take with you up until your first Saturn Return.

Some values your friends, parents, teachers, authority figures presented you with DO fit your personal-own values. Keep those on your Menu. The ones you've outgrown, you can gently kindly set aside.

You are defining 'who you are' .. who you 'want' to be, for your Future. .. You are RIGHT WHERE you ought to be right now. Give yourself Credit! If you're 'feeling' like you don't know, then, you ARE doing the Work your chart nudges you into right now.

HAVE YOU RECEIVED your COVID VACCINATIONs?
If not, that's a really good idea that you do that now... Protect your Health.

Also, guard against too much STRESS...
I know that can be really hard to do?..
Too much tension (and worrying) is not nice to your body ... Work on ways to bring down your stress levels, best you can. Lots of 'anxiety' in the General Air right now..

Do you have any kind of spiritual practice?

Are your parents especially religious, or heavy in politics?
(How about you?)

Is there a special Cause you'd like to stand up for in your life right now? Some kind of passion (from things going on in the world)? {If you don't that's okay.}
If you do? .. What are you interested in?
Is there anything you want to fight for, socially?

There's a reason I'm asking you all these questions, based on your Chart, and, things going on in the world right now.

Are you living in the USA?

Are you still living in the parental home?
Ready to make the break, if you are?

How's your relationship with your Father?

You've got QUITE a Chart!! Grand Cardinal Cross -- that's not easy. You came here to earth with a purpose! There's a ton of stress (and some restrictions) that must be mastered and balanced. And when you DO, o m g. What potential!!

Have you decided on a Career yet?
What field did you decide on?
Was/Is your Education a match for what you WANT to do in your Life?

Do you REALIZE how Talented you are???
The Influence you can possibly Have?

You were born close to an ECLIPSE.
That's a special chart too--
Ups and downs... and possible great accomplishments that come with it.

All the lunations right now are DESIGNED to help you with your questions... *Love*

I can 'see' where and how the unsureness you might have is set into the chart, and it was through your upbringing. The things going on in your parental home.
You're concluding a transit to your Neptune, that might have brought some self-doubt and extra worrying?.. Be glad that this influence is waning from your chart transits. Eventually will lift off the challenges to that, in your life.
(Saturn conjunct Neptune)
Faster moving planets and the Moon can briefly bring those things you've gone through as a reminder.

All is happening to assist you! To know 'who' you are, tests your reality and reveals talents and parts of you that you might not have known were there to work 'for' you. Help you to grow good Strength from WITHIN self (Your nep on IC, opp MC).
Some religions can take you TO God.. but unless you have The Divine 'REALIZED' on the INSIDE, then you are not getting 'everything' you need, for your personal Journey. Know who and what you are from the INSIDE== not what others define you as. What is TRUE for 'you'...? *heart* .. Believe 'that'.
It's also good to be able to 'adjust' those beliefs, as you grow in knowledge, and gain Wisdom through experiences. Your Grand Squares are in 'fixed' energies... adopt the ability to 'be' who you are, yet still versatile, teachable, adaptable, mutable. Maintain a "teachable" spirit.

At your age now, part of the task is to Individualize (know and decide 'who' you are, for your own self, WITHIN Society).

Like I said, some things you'll like and want to Keep (Value wise).


SPEAKING in a GENERAL Way,
to the Collective of your Soul Groups.
. .
One of challenges of your particular age/soul group is that of "being different." Cultivating your UNIQUE values to set oneself as BEING more 'different' from everyone else. Thing is? That can also come to work against you. Being eccentric for the sake of being eccentrics .. might be fun. Lots of genius thinking... HOWEVER.. when trying to 'be unique' JUST FOR the sake of 'being unique'.. you'll need to realize that you-all ARE the budding leaders of Tomorrow!
. .
Your generation will be TASKED to come together and make good practical plans that work for EVERY Individual.
(You Housen, have a Gift to help with that.
Mercury quintile Saturn .. practicality, is a skill you can hone that can really serve self and others. *thumbsup* )
Pluto in your 2nd House, trines several planets.
Shows inherent talents you may discover you have.
With natal Venus in your 11th house of friends and associates, you may find that you HAVE the backing you need.
You're getting ready for your VENUS Return now.
Do something pleasurable and Lovely that day for yourself.
. .
There's a lot of hidden wonderful Potential when your Group can deeply discover each other.

Can be Revolutionaries for BEST Causes in this World, that desperately is coming to NEED that now. To bring Humanitarians to the forefront-- saving lives, and building anew after so much destruction.

Housen, you have been given a special Talent by God/Higher-Power. Mercury is pretty prominent in your chart. Transiting Sun is coming to conjunct it in these next few days. Then as the Sun goes into LEO, it will be on your MC, into your 10th... and you'll be getting ready for your Solar Return on the 9th of August? *congrats*

You're also going to have your Venus Return in time for the next Full Moon Aquarius on July 23. This Moon will conjunct your IC-Neptune... Which may highlight matters dealing your Mother?
{How is your relationship with her?}
Consider the influence that your Mother has had on your Values too-- What do you wish to Keep? Which of her values are you going to set-aside for a while?

How exciting for you ...
You're in a time of discovery and Choices.
Building the INNER You.

What are you going to reject, or keep for your own self's future?... (rhetorical)

I've asked a lot of questions.
You can choose to answer, or not! LOL

But KNOW that you are feeling/considering is exactly where you're supposed to be/do in your life right now.

Try not to be 'impulsive'.
Consider the consequences.
Do your research.

You Are A Child of The Universe!
(music) Desiderata (Les Crane, lyrics)
[4:14] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsYon_3Vlak
You Have a Right to Be Here


I’m soooooo sorry, I’ve been soooo busy, i PROMISE I’ll reply, I have sooooooooooooooooooooooooo many questions 😩

Thank you soooooooooooooo much

There are a lot of “so’s” in this message 😅

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mirage29
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posted July 20, 2021 10:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
.... Take all the time you need.
It's okay.
There is sooooooooo much to process!

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Housen
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posted July 29, 2021 01:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Housen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mirage29:
*your reply*

Heyyy

So I know this is probably the latest reply you’ve ever gotten from anyone literally lol but it’s 4 am where I am (so that answers one of your questions, no I’m not in the US, I’m nearer to the equator, too near lol 😭) and trust me that this is honestly one of the first free times I have to to devote to finding myself, so I really hope you’re not mad and that you even see this (considering that it’s been 9 whole days) 😭😭

I’m so sorry again (I feel like I’ll apologize a lot in this reply)

Your First question, no I have not been vaccinated (I know, I will)

Yes guarding against stress is really hard (I have some “stress helpers” tho and I will ask about them later in this reply). Picture this: my mind is never at rest (mercury square jupiter lol) and there’re a million and one things right now which need my active attention so yeah. I wouldn’t say that I am dangerously stressed, but I am definitely not not stressed (if that makes sense 😅)

I believe in God. My parents are Christian. They’re not too political, and neither am I but they definitely keep up with the necessary news

Special cause? Hmm. Not particularly. I have more of a “broad” cause; Let me put it this way, if I had a wish, I would wish that absolutely no one is closed minded. I feel like close mindedness is a huge subconscious reason behind of a lot of the conscious expressions of the “isms” of conflict in today’s world (y’know... racism)

Lol there’s nothing I want to fight for socially rather than the dissolution of society itself. Don’t worry its not as radical as it sounds. But I feel like societal norms and standards SERIOUSLY STIFLE individuality, and as human beings I feel like we need to be individuals first before we are social animals. I think we have the sequence reversed (plus my country’s a mess so there’s that lol and a big reason it’s a mess is cus we’re so divided)

Ps. Notice how I said I believe in God and not any specific religion (however if anyone askes, I’m Christian; it’s still important to believe in something specific). Yeah I feel like religion is now more of a divider than a unifier

As I’ve already indirectly answered (if that’s not obvious by now) I don’t live in the USA. For some reason i don’t feel inclined to disclose where I currently am, I hope that’s ok 😊

NOPE I’m no longer living in my parental home 🙂

Oh I’m ready to make a break, but as many before me, I’m realizing that Saturn is VERY hard to ignore in this physical life of a thing 🙂🙂

A year ago I would’ve had a rather negative answer to my relationship with my dad. But now I just appreciate him. That’s it. As literal as my words imply

Oh I know I’ve got quite a chart, even I myself feel the weight of my chart 😭.
Question 1: by “grand cardinal cross” are you referring to the houses or was that an astrological typo? Cus i know my crosses are in fixed signs (except mercury the outcast)

Can you turn all my squares to trines PLEASE!!!! 😩

My education was “on track” until 5 years ago, now I’m reading a course I don’t entirely resonate with. Don’t get me wrong I love math, but I don’t LOVE math enough to study it exclusively. I don’t know what I want to do/be. All I know is that I want to make enough money to enable me live a comfortable money. That’s it. How I want to go about that is anyone’s guess including mine. This is as a result of the fact that, well, I, uhm, have, a, SHITTON of interests. So yeah.

Am I giving u a glimpse into my chaotic mind yet? 🙂

Me? Talented? Possibly influential? You’re too kind

An eclipse? Ive never really looked into that. I know that my moon is a basalmic (idk if I got the spelling right lol) moon, I guess the eclipse makes sense. And I guess that’s question #2: how does me being born close to an eclipse mean anything? What’s the esoteric implication of an eclipse?

HOW? PLEASE TELL ME HOW MY UNSURENESS IS AS A RESULT IF MY UPBRINGING!? Cus lately I’ve been unearthing some memories of my childhood that (I think) are helping me out together the “who” of my personality

Yeahhhhh I’ve recently come to the realization that until I make a name for myself no one would really give a **** , I would just be another rando to them and that has certainly fed into the self doubt you mentioned

I really believe there’s a God. No doubt. No question. It’s man made religion I have a gripe with as I’ve mentioned. I wouldn’t consider myself toooooo spiritual to the point of becoming some kind of shaman but I definitely feel (emphasis on “feel” cus as you can see from my chart I’m pretty watery 🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂) God; more now than I have in a while. I’m still growing so this is no where near the apex of my spiritual journey. But I keep feeling like all that’s going on is happening for my good (the Bible says something similar). I just don’t want to focus on it too much as to become dogmatic and lackadaisical in my actual responsibilities (which I’m prone to do). Is that bad? (Question 3 lol)

Yeah I’ve read that grand fixed cross holders need to learn to be teachable and well I’m a Leo with Mars in scorpio, I can be pretttttyyyy stubborn if I want to be lol. I’m currently learning to come to terms with the inevitability of change and know how to ride its turbulent waves, so I guess that’s a step in the right direction.

Small tangential deviation:

Can I be a writer? (random-ish question number 4)

I promise I’m not “forcing” myself to write this way (it’s 5am I have to think of sleeping so I’m actually typing rather quickly 😅)

And (related question 5) how can I learn how to read and assimilate words quickly? I’m a bit too slow a reader than I would like

Of course these questions are based on my chart

Ps. I don’t write formally, at all, no one would call or describe me as a writer. So this batch of question is 100% random and curiosity driven

Back to your questions:

Once again, am I giving u a glimpse into my chaotic mind yet? 🙂🙃🙂

Now back to your questions for real 😅:

Yeah I’m realizing it’s important, for ones security, for one to find his or her place in society and kinda “operate” or exist from there. I wish I could just be me without having to put on some farce all in the name of attaining worldly success and societal validation buuuuuut, Saturn. (are you seeing my sun square Saturn yet 🙂)

I’m trying to form my values while at the same time not lose myself in them which is what I think a lot of people do (another thing that gives rise to the “isms”)

Yeah don’t be eccentric just for the sake of being eccentric. I know. I’ve read it in many Aquarius/uranus/aspect articles 😩

YES!!!!!! (Can I say I love you?) SOMEONE HAS FINALLY HIGHLIGHTED MY QUINTILE ASPECT!!!!!! My mercury quintile Saturn is one of special interest cus I’ve honestly felt like it influence is not unnoticeable (minus it’s 0 degree orb) I just try not to pay too much attention to it cus it’s apparently a “minor” aspect (plus I’m not entirely sure how my Venus quintile Mars plays out) so PLEASEEEEE TELL ME EVERYTHING YOU KNOW ABOUT QUINTILES AND ESPECIALLY MY QUINTILESSSSS!!!!!?!??? How do they work? What does Venus quintile Mars mean? How do I recognize them in my everyday physical life, cus it’s apparently a spiritual/“talent” aspect? What talents do both my quintiles point to individually? I know this is a lot, I’m sorry 😭

I guess that’s question...? I’ve lost count 😅 For continuity let’s just call the next question question 10 shall we (cus 10 is, well, 10)

YES! My Pluto trines!! PLEASE, which of them can I consider??????? I’ve gone as far as to study the principle behind planetary moieties and how that plays into aspects just so I can know. Cus all my trines are wide and bordering on the limits of orb allowance 😭 (even the trine to the north node; I read that trines to objects like the nodes have a default moiety of 2.5 and hence an orb of up to 5 degrees is allowed...and my Pluto trine north node is well, 5 degrees and 2 minutes wide 🙂🙂🙂🙂. Are you seeing my dilemma!!!!) it’s just the trine to the sun that seems to be “allowable” since the suns moiety is I think 6.5 so it’s aspects can reach orbs of 13. But i don’t know since no one seems to really consider the moieties and the accepted orb seems to be a fixed 10 degrees. The trine to mercury and the mc are of course worse candidates, the worst being mercury since it even forms an out of sign aspect. So please help! Which of the trines to my natal Pluto am I allowed to responsibly consider? 😩😩 (question 10 🙃🙃)

Yeahhhhhhh, incase it’s not glaringly obvious by now, I’m an overthinker 🙂🙂🙂🙂

Ah! My Venus retrograde in Virgo 😩🙂🙂🙂😩 (I told you I have sooooo many questions 😭) honestly what I really want is some kind of interpretation into what exactly that means cus nothing about that placement is “right”. Venus is detriment in Virgo and it is retrograde 🥴. Honestly sounds (and feels) like a double whammy. I definitely OVER-analyze my love relationships and I tend to fall for my friends (11th house) but I also feel like it (together with Chiron in the first house) gives me self esteem issues. And it’s square Pluto 🙂. Really what I want to know is (question 11) what does Venus inconjunct Neptune mean and how does it play out? And how does that whole retrograde Venus in Virgo in the 11th house play out as a grand collective? (12th question) Does retrograde Venus express itself in a more taurean than libran way? (Pregunta numero 13) cus I’ve seen somewhere that it apparently does and what does all of this mean for my relationship with my Pisces girlfriend who has retrograde Venus in Aries (yeah we somehow found each other)? (question 14) and lastly what does virgos ruler mercury being in cancer conjuncting moon in cancer have to add to all of this? (My moon also conjuncts the asteroid Eros by 0 degrees 🙃) (16th question) and while on the topic, is my moon conjunct mercury too wide an orb to consider? And what does both of them being in cancer (which is ruled by the same moon) mean for the expression of my mercury? (Questions 17&18)

Yay you got my birthday!! 🥳 please send me a present 😊

The same me? Talented BY GOD???? You’re definitely waay too kind 🥺

Yes! Please what does mercury in cancer conjunct my mc in leo mean?!?!?!?!?????? (Can u see why I asked if I could be a writer) and jupiter conjunct my descendant?????????? And Neptune conjunct my ic????? (All VERY important questions 19-21)
Please shed a bit more light on the jupiter descendant conjunction (or jupiter setting or jupiter opposite ascendant) and what does that mean since Saturn is also in the 7th house??? (Question 22)

Yeah, I have moon in cancer without any hard major aspects. I love my mum to the sun and back! I would never trade her for anything. She’s definitely a part of my life that I’m exceedingly grateful to God to have been given

What does my Venus placement say about my her this? Cus I’ve read that Venus represents the psychic imprint of your mother while the moon represents her physical presence. So what does my Venus being in Virgo and retrograde say about that? (Question 23)

And last but not the least question 24...please, for the life of me, help me understand both my grand squares with relation to the planets involved!!!!! Absolutely no description of grand squares online is anywhere near in-depth enough and definitely none of them consider my specific planets (and ascendant). So please what do my grand squares mean and how are they meant to play out?????

Ok last last question (25); since mercury is very close to the 10th house cusp, is it still in the 9th house or in the 10th house???? I’ve read articles that say it’s either but I don’t know. Which house am I to consider, is my mercury in the philosophical house or in the house of worldly achievements? Please help 😭

Tbh the only part of my chart I’ve not asked any questions on is my Mars and scorpio placements...and that’s because I absolutely LOVE them and have no problems or uncertainties with them 🥺🥺😩😩

Ok LASSSTTTT QUESTION(s) (no number). Is my chart ruler Mars or Pluto? and what does Pluto being in the second house mean with respect to the fact that it’s my chart ruler?????

I really hope that this reply is not an impulsive one cus I’ve kinda really revealed myself here and my scorpio rising and Mars is ringing the “you’re saying too much” and “Overshare! Overshare!” alarm bells. But idk, I (obviously) don’t usually do this, but for some reason this feels right so I guess we move 😂

I can finally sleep 😩 (it’s 6:45 🙂🙂🙂)

Tbh u would be eternally grateful if you even as much as read this reply yet alone reply it.

THANK YOU SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

See why I kept postponing this reply. I definitely needed to find time for it and I’m glad I’ve finally gotten to it cus it’s been eating at my subconscious for as long as it’s been in my mental todo list. I can finally check it as completed 😩

Thank you sooooooo much once again and please accept my sincerest apologies for the putridly late reply 🥺🥺

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posted July 29, 2021 04:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Housen     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ok 2 more questions 😅

1. What’s the difference between true Lilith and mean Lilith and dark moon Lilith (if it’s distinct) and which one is conjuncting my Pluto and what does that mean? Which Lilith should I be considering?

2. Is Saturn well placed since it is placed in libras house and is exalted in libra? (It’s even still in a Venus ruled sign)

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posted July 30, 2021 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Housen, I thoroughly enjoyed your detailed and humorous reply.
Love your mind!

Don't worry about length of time for making replies.
I hope you'll afford me the same grace...

I live in a gnarly environment that makes me feel sooo sick sometimes. Like right now, I have been researching your chart since 4:00 a.m.-- (when it was quieter). Live in an older apartment building, and the place started shaking and shivering from ~whatever equipment that started at 7:30am, and got stronger at 8:30am. sheesh ...

I see such possibility in your Chart!
Chart is sooo strong.
Challenges will come and are there to train and refine what you have, who you are.


Found myself chuckling, as your descriptions are so 'textbook' to what I've been reading.

soooo..... gotta go right now.
Thanks for waiting.

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"Ruler of The Chart"
SCORPIO ASCENDANT
.. Co-Ruled by Pluto and Mars
* Pluto is the modern ruler for the sign of Scorpio;
* Mars is the "personal" ruler of sign of Scorpio.

(Will do rulers 'in the house-of' later)

GRAND CROSS
Yes, you are correct --
Your chart has a Fixed 'Sign' Grand Cross:
.. Scorpio, Leo, Taurus, Aquarius.
Fixed sign Grand Cross is located in the Cardinal 'Houses':
.. 1,10,7,4.

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QUESTION...
How's your temper?

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Hi mirage

So sorry about your environment 😞. I honestly really hope that things change for the better sooner rather than later (I really mean this). Please get well soon. Take as much time as you need, please do.

Ironically this past weekend I myself came down with a terrible cacophony of severe illnesses 😪. So I myself am currently recuperating. It’s just ironic considering that you literally just told me to take care of my health and now here I am recovering from one of my worst bouts of illnesses in my life (not an exaggeration)

So please take as much time as you need. Seems like we both need it

Ok so both Mars AND Pluto are my rulers. Makes sense. I hope 😭

My temper? Hmm. I feel there’s a distinction to be made here. I definitely FEEL everything “feelable” (to an intense degree at times) the thing is I think that Mars opposite Saturn comes into play and what i actually ACT on is a very very very contracted subset of what I feel. I really hope this makes sense. In a nutshell, I can get so riled up that I want to burn down a house, but, y’know, I actually don’t commit arson

Sending you lots of positive energy 💚

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Thanks Housen ..
Hope you'll feel better
Your chart is heavily lit with transits.
These can have an affect on 'the physical'.

I've been working on your chart all these past days, going through books and materials I hadn't looked through for a long time. The various astrologers take and present different viewpoints.

On subsequent posts, I'll quote you passages from what I've found. So many ways to approach things.

QUESTION:
How far into Astrology are you?
Beginner, Intermediate, ??

Do you know about Progressed charts/planets?
Astrodienst can provide you with those.
(Today is my Progressed Sun's Birthday).
Check out your Progressed Sun, Progressed Moon, and Progressed Ascendant and MC degree.
(Your Natal Sun is Leo, and your Progressed Sun might have entered early Virgo now? )

Since you are near your Birthday ..
Astrodienst also provides "Solar Return" charts.
Go to Extended selection.
Go to Chart Types, drop menu.
Scroll down... Find Solar Returns
...
Choose 'Natal + Solar, with Houses'.
(There are the other SR's too.)
Make sure the Reference Location is set for 'where' your body will be ON that Solar Return (if you're traveling far from your birth location on that day, in that moment).

Total NEW MOON North Node Eclipse in LEO
happened close to the day and time you were born.
Total Eclipse LEO 18.21
Eclipse: Aug 11, 1999 Peak 11:03 a.m. GMT/UT.

Eclipse was the last one of the 20th century (1900s)--
"Y2K" (start of 21st century was to occur).
People were 'freaked out' regarding whether the world's computers would internally be able to correctly shift time without causing worldwide malfunction-- which would affect electrical power grids, utilities, black-out of airport radar/communications at control towers, planes/trains depending on computer programs to control them.
I remember that we were told to fill our bathtubs with water, just in case the community pump-station would stop. We had to fill jugs with clean water for drinking.
People were afraid and insecure-- not knowing whether we could 'trust' and have faith that the computer instructions wouldn't become internally confused!


- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_2000_problem

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_eclipse_of_August_11,_1999
Saros 145

- http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEmono/TSE2009/TSE2009.html
Saros 136, 11 South

Another QUESTION:
July 21/22, 2009
Solar Total SN NEW MOON Eclipse Cancer 29.27
* A few weeks before you turned 10 years old
and the months afterwards--
or even in the months before--
Did anything of note happen to you?
. .
Maybe in your family, your community, or a strong Event in your Country?
Did you and your family need to Relocate?
. .
Could be even something Positive that happened, with your family's public standing?

(Looking at your Mercury Cancer 29+.. there was a strong eclipse to your Mercury-MC during that time).

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quote
pg 72-73
GRAND SQUARE: Keyword: Challenge
A pattern formed by 'two' oppositions, and 'four' squares.
If you have a planet, within orb, in each of the quadruplicities, [then] you will have a Grand Square in your chart.
This is a dynamic configuration that can be a balancing force, if the individual can use these energies 'constructively'.
If this grand cross is not used wisely, it can cause many difficulties.
There is a great strength in this aspect because it creates obstacles that demand attention-- whereas the grand trine can cause inertia and laziness because things come too easily.

* In cardinal signs
the 'outlet' for the grand cross is 'action'.
* In fixed signs
this energy needs an 'emotional outlet'
in some 'self-expressive' way.

* Mutable grand squares
are easier to handle than the others but need more attention.
Too great a diffusiveness,
and too much indecision, is evident.
They 'see all sides' so it is difficult to make a decision.
Note the fixed signs in a chart with a mutable grand cross.
If there are some planets in 'fixed' signs, [then these] will be a big help in correcting 'the diffusiveness and vacillation' of the mutable grand cross.

pg 72
SQUARE: Keyword: Obstacles.
90 degrees apart.
The cross relates to 'matter'.
It has more power than a trine-- if you learn how to handle it.
Trines are static; they ease.
Crosses are dynamic;
they 'force you' to face issues, and in the process, you grow.
Crosses are the lessons we have failed to learn in other lives.
The quickest way to release ourselves from difficulties
is to 'face them' and 'solve them'.
Every time we run out on trouble, it awaits us around the corner through another instrument or another set of circumstances.
Squares represent the lessons we have failed to learn {past lives}
and trines are the harmonies we have earned;
the blessings that come....
when we love, and love wisely.

pg 71
OPPOSITION: Keyword: Awareness.
180 degrees apart.
Oppositions are opposing forces that must be 'reconciled'.
They are easier to handle than squares,
but call for "cooperation."
It calls for compromise.
..
Oppositions can cause you to be pulled apart by two contrary pulls,
but like two poles of a battery,
one may also be illumined by the spark flowing from pole to pole.
..
"AWARENESS" is one of the keywords of oppositions, for 'awareness' causes consciousness to expand and develop.
Without opposing forces, how could we have any choice?
Without choice, there would be no growth in discrimination and awareness.
Oppositions will not give difficulties 'if' you learn how to handle people who do not agree with you.
Learn strategy and diplomacy.
Learn to agree with your adversary while you are in 'the way' {in confrontation} with him.
In a conjunction 'you' do something;
in an opposition 'the other fellow' does.
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Isabel M. Hickey c1970
Astrology-- A Cosmic Science


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ELEVATED PLANET : Mercury

Ray Grasse, April 19, 2018
Decoding the Most Elevated Planet in the Horoscope
from The Mountain Astrologer magazine
April 19, 2018
- http://www.astro.com/astrology/tma_article180419_e.htm

quote
Mercury
With Mercury highest in the chart,
there is an urge to project one’s ideas or verbal skills before the world.
As such,
this is a natural placement for teachers, writers,
those in public relations
or in any occupation involving communication and mental talents.
. .
One finds it in the charts of writers like Henry Miller, Goethe, Balzac,
and Renaissance scholar Marsilio Ficino.
Writer Sylvia Plath had Mercury in dramatic Scorpio as the highest planet in her chart; her famous book The Bell Jar (1963) describes a young woman’s descent into mental illness.

One aspires toward whatever qualities are symbolized by planets near the zenith,
and this provides clues as to the 'role models or mentors' one emulates in life.

In the case of Mercury,
for instance,
those heroes will tend to be more intellectual in nature.
. .
One young client of mine, born with Mercury in Aquarius conjunct his MC, grew up with posters of Carl Sagan and Thomas Edison on his bedroom wall, rather than images of rock stars, sports heroes, or attractive actresses!

But take note:
If this elevated Mercury happens to be in a challenging aspect —
especially with Neptune, Mars, Jupiter, or Saturn
one has to be especially careful with any public statements,
since they can get one into hot water.
. .
I recall a friend with Mercury at the MC squared by Jupiter and Mars.
He was a compelling writer and speaker,
yet found himself the subject of a libel suit over comments he made in public about a colleague, which cost him dearly in legal fees, not to mention many sleepless nights.

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MERCURY QUINTILE SATURN

quote
Mercury quintile Saturn will feel the weight of Saturn on his/her mental and communication processes,
but s/he is likely to 'enjoy the rigor' that Saturn imposes.
And the rigor of her/his thinking and communication
will often be unusual due to the quintile’s vibration.
Mercury is not normally known for being disciplined;
it darts this way and that,
connecting things and communicating thoughts about them.
Saturn’s quintile will make Mercury more disciplined,
so the effect is
deeper, more-rigorous thoughts and communication.

Trines are harmony, but their bearers often take that talent for granted and often don’t use it to its best effect.
. .
Squares drag down the relationship between the bodies they connect;
here, it [is] discipline (Saturn) against thinking and playing (Mercury).
I write “playing” because thinking is often playing.
. .
Quintiles create a joy, creativity, and drive between the bodies and angles they connect.

Joy is often invisible to the person experiencing it; joy moves one into a timeless space.
Quintiles infuse the interaction between the bodies/angles they connect with an element of joy.

REF
Decoding Quintiles [Astrological Aspects]
CS Rollyson
Jan 17, 2020
- http://practicedignorance.wordpress.com/2020/01/17/decoding-quintiles-astrological- aspects/

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MERCURY TRINE CHIRON

quote
It is easy for you to express your thoughts and ideas because of your enhanced sensitivity to other people.
. .
You have a deep understanding of diplomacy
in part because of 'perceived' insufficiencies
that create wounds in your past experiences with others.
. .
You have a gift for diplomacy
and can be an excellent speaker or writer
especially when it is fueled by your own inner wounds.
You may write a memoir about your recovery
or 'process' of 'overcoming the odds'
. .
You may also become a teacher or mentor
for others who struggle through challenging situations
similar to your early challenges.
. .
You are seen as a spokesperson and role model for others
because of your ability
to connect with people of all walks of life.
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- http://12andus.com/blog/view/399211/mercury-and-chiron-aspects-in-the-birth-chart-how-is-your-mindset-and-communication-style-impacted-by-past-wounds?utm_campaign=blog-sharing&utm_ source=transactional&utm_medium=blogsharing


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Mercury square ASCENDANT
. .
"Mercury square Ascendant can mean that your body language throws people off. ...
Mercury square Ascendant indicates a strong lack of intellectual 'self-assurance'.
Mercury square Ascendant means that you might compare yourself to other people.
This creates a lot of deep insecurity that bubbles up in social situations."
-- May 11, 2021
- http://teaandrosemary.com/mercury-ascendant-aspects-natal/

Mercury conjunct Mid-Heaven (MC)
- http://astrology.hi7.co/mercury-conjunct-midheaven-565293528c345.html
- http://skywriter.wordpress.com/2011/04/18/inner-planets-conjunct-the-midheaven%E2%80%94are-you-larger-than-life/

- - -
Lots to discuss there? ...


Also have
Mercury opp Neptune ..
- http://astrologyking.com/mercury-opposite-neptune/
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At the age you are now, you are STILL building your "emotional bank" of life. More experiences to come, to be processed, and sorted for usefulness in your life.

Your Saturn Return, will be a time of Testing out your values, and will reveal what is strong in your and what still needs 'work' done.

In one of the books I read, it talked about the 'impression' and image of your self that your father left on your psyche-- whether he/you knew it or not.
ref. Mars opp Saturn
..
I will present you with it in another posting.

It's hard to do all this, without face-to-face conversations.

PLEASE do not hesitate to ask me about anything!!! *Heart* !!!

You didn't mention 'what' you are studying (that had all those math courses involved).

Is there a career-track your school counselors (or parents) (or self) chose for you?

I really really hope you will feel better soon!
COVID-bugs are on the loose!!

Sending you BEST Light, and comfort...

(This is such a slowwww process,
I appreciate your patience.)

Wanting THE BEST for you.

You have an ADVANTAGE in life BECAUSE you are getting into your Astrology VERY EARLY in your life/career and personal growth.

If you were to keep up your interest in astrology,
you will always have a guide to explain things in life and understand your self and others with more ease!

Much Love *Heart*

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Happy Solar Return, Housen! (Leo 16.25)

Wishing you a Great Year ahead. ..

IN YOUR LIFE,
Some day,
May you find you are with the perfect spouse,
marrying for LOVE, and living in Great Fortune with a spouse-BEST-friend.

If it doesn't happen in a soon-time, it is better to Wait, and be 'discerning' of the motivations of folks that enter your life.

Special Protections

(music) Charm is Deceitful (Karen Hill, psa 31)
[2:21] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4S0rI8eg48

'The Fear of the Lord' --
This phrase in archaic language doesn't mean being "afraid-of" (or in terror of) a person (or deity), as you would with someone whom you think acts with intention and holding an agenda to do mortal HARM "if" you were to displease them in any way.. walking on eggshells?

No.. That 'fear' comes from a liberated safe Heart that holds So Much Love, that you-yourself would never want to purposefully do anything to hurt or disappoint them, nor to hold disrespect to the one who has been so Kind and Loving and Gracious to you. That you don't want to do something that you consciously know in your Heart is deliberately 'wrong'.

When you love a spouse, your open Heart is 'pure' and honest; and you work together in a common-union. You both answer to God (in your Silent places). You act towards the Other with a lovingkindness-- holding them in the "Kind" Light of who they are.
. .
The Human Brain has a part called the RAS-- Reticular Activation System. It's the part of you and me where 'telepathy' happens. The scientists have done experiments where they measured holding kind/good thoughts of another person actually has an effect IN them.
When we hold positive 'liking' thoughts deep in the mind/heart, the other person naturally responds with more receptivity to words. The 'image' you hold of them in your 'thoughts' telepathically communicates.
. .
Many people are already knowledgeable of what their own 'faults' and tendencies are. Many are self-critical!! *bheart* ..
Ideally, when you BOTH, inside your own selves, answer to what you hold as Highest-- the Highest IN you, and the Highest that surrounds you as a Cover-- then more Grace is available. Grace puts faults on the backburner, and holds-Present their Possibilities.

In your Chart,
with your wish for financial goals? I believe that what I see is that you can 'have' what you are desiring ... And that, 'through' the cooperation with Others, partners.

Serve your Kingdom (Mr. Leo!! ..) and remember that having a Kingdom, having people in your life, requires a Listening, and Discerning Heart. .. Make sure you develop that ability to see things through ANOTHER person's Point of View, while knowing your own.

Allow that/those Others TO make a difference, TO inform you while you take in their feedbacks very carefully.

If you don't 'agree'... hold it in a special protected area for your Reference, "just in case"? .. *grin* .

KNOW your Self. Be Okay with YOU. .. Even with faults and failings. You are more than Okay in your deep center. You are Valuable.
. .
Faults or failings can ALWAYS be worked on.
Having the Desire to be your Best Self, and 'going to that center place' in you, where that Resides, will be Cleansing..

Go back to the SONG I left called Desiderata.
Such wisdom...

With you having a Scorpio Ascendant,
and with being born under a difficult chart? It's a sign that you came in with an Advanced Soul.
You also have the Talents that will balance off and allow you to turn challenges into your tremendous Strength and Learning. Your Squares place you in a Workout-Gym. When you ~get the knack, of 'how' it Works Together for Good, you will Tap the Best.

Your other Chart Ruler, Pluto, Will allow you to SURGE past your 'lower self' and you'll find self in the position of Serving Humanity!

Pluto .. and your trines.
You have a deep and intricate mind.
Thing is? Another word associated with Pluto is "obsession".
Trine Mercury? .. obsessing about 'thoughts' and maybe ceaseless repetition of thoughts.

I chose MERCURY as an important planet in your chart for to 'understand'.

(Better start wrapping this up.. The longer I look at a chart, the 'more' it speaks? LOL)

Last Word for today? *grin*

Your Chiron Scorpio 27+ is conjunct Fixed Star Toliman.

It "happens" that Toliman is also known as "The Wound in Chiron's Thigh".

Fixed Star Toliman ..
teaching others,
expanding their knowledge...
these lessons that you are either giving or receiving will be connected to something that has either 'gone wrong' OR 'needs repairing'--
either in an 'individual' sense, OR 'Collective one'.
. .
Healing through knowledge
and through giving of information.
{Stars.. Rigel kentaurus group}.
ref Paul Saunders

Your Chiron Scorpio is TRINE Mercury Cancer, and your MidHeaven (MC).

MARS (1st House) QUINTILE VENUS (11th)
Adopting a style which combines masculine force with feminine persuasiveness, or masculine strength and vigor with feminine grace and beauty; a very seductive aspect.

That Mars Quintile Venus is in your 'tool-chest' as a Balance for whatever might have wounded you regarding 1st House matters.
. .
You are given the 'gift' to be able to change whatever that was, and Make it Right, and Make it work FOR you--- and as happens with Chiron, you will be a GIFT to Others ..through your 'own' Overcoming.

You are still at an age of exploring your world, exploring others, Discovering who you are in parallel with Others. You have PLENTY OF TIME...

With Astrology? .. You have been given the maps, the secrets that you may not have known, that can be elevated to level of awareness (consciousness) in your life. It's a way for you with NO self-judgment, to explore whether 'what it says' be correct OR incorrect (as yet, in your life).
..
Kind of a cheat-sheet?
Gives YOU the Advantage...
It is also FANTASTIC for working with your own mental health too. You can 'see' the triggers and what these can be connected to.

You can't change what you don't know, or can't see.

Once you are aware.. "just observe it" for a while.

Sometimes 'just being aware' can bring instant corrections.

Wishing you Much Love,
on your "Sun conjunct Sun" Transit--
Solar Return Birthday!!!

Be surrounded in an ABUNDANCE of Good Favor

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Hey mirage

Sorry I haven’t replied yet. I’m an undergrad, and we’ve been in the thick of the semester, exams are soon so everything is tight. I promise I’ll get back to you as soon as I can.

I have a lot to read from your replies, I look forward to that! 😩🥺
Thank you soo so so much

And thank you for the solar return wishes 😊🤎

Fingers crossed you still check this thread 😭🤞🏾

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Hi Housen! .. Glad to see you

Your EDUCATION comes FIRST-- absolutely.
No problem with delays--
(I'm just glad you're okay).

quote:
Can you turn all my squares to trines PLEASE!!!! 😩

*laughing* .. sure!! ..
But it requires patience and waiting.

There's such a thing called your 'chart progressions'. The chart is advanced one day for each year you live.

The older you get, the geometry will change. The grand-square configuration will be altered. The tightness of whatever 'congestion' is there will be adjusted.


(I don't have your birthdata, but 'you' can take a quick peek yourself, by going to Astrodienst and choosing a Progressed chart. Where the date for 'today' is, you can change those. Adjust the 'year' up-- and you can visually watch the geometry of the chart change, the older you get.)

One of your first 'changes' will be to your 29-degree Mercury in Cancer. You should(?) soon have a 0-degree Mercury in LEO in your Progressions.


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