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stella polaris
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posted March 27, 2003 01:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
I keep dreaming about bears...
The other night, there was this huge, female brown bear that looked into a big mirror and then the mirror just exploded in a millions bits.
Last night, I dreamt about this house that I've dreamt about many times before. It's red, and situated on the top of a hill. Now I dreamt that it was situated nearby the old town, but higher up so we'd have a view, and there where 20 000 square meters of land, and it only costed ten million drachs, and why did we buy the house were we live, instead of this one? BUT, it turned out that most of the 20 000 square meters was just plain rock, you can't grow anything there. From the house, there were steep stairs going down along the rock. At the bottom suddenly appared a white bear, a young, lean and agrressive polar bear, that was a bear, but actually looked more like a panter. I was trying to get the bear locked in in the garage/basement, I got him in there, and just managed to slam the door behind me when I went out.
Any inputs?

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Ra
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posted March 27, 2003 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Anything for you Stella!

I will look at this tonight.

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posted March 27, 2003 10:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Evergreen     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Stella!

The brown bear staring into the mirror breaking: Are you unable to see, get in touch with, or use your own power (since the mirror breaks)?

The keynote of the bear as a symbol is awakening the power of the subconscious.

The house has a great view, a great price, but is not on fertile ground. You have the ideas, you easy have the time (time is money, and this seemed to be no problem moneywise), but can't produce anything there.

Going down the stairs (sinking into the subconscious) you meet the polar bear, which is the most aggressive of the bears. Looking like a panther, which also is a very powerful animal and symbols reclaiming one's true power. Polar bears live off seals, seals represents active imagination, lucid dreaming and creativity.

you get the polar bear in the basement, slamming the door shut...

Ok, to sum it up; Do you suffer a "writer's block"?? Do you feel unproductive and "on the rocks"?

It seems to me that you either are trying to get in touch with your own subconscious power, but not quite succeed? Or that this is what you need to do to awaken your creative power and use the latter one productively??

You have the strong, aggressive and powerful polar bear/panther locked in you, so feed it some imaginative seals, let it out and see what this powerful animal can do for you!


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stella polaris
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posted March 28, 2003 12:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
Evergreen, you're great!

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posted March 28, 2003 06:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamflake     Edit/Delete Message
I love that, Evergreen!

Stella, you're great! I believe you're onto something cool! Be happy and proud, and go for it!


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posted March 29, 2003 09:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
Hi stella - interesting dream! Also, wanted to let you know I saw your lexigrams. It seems you have been bitten by the druids. Very nice work!

Hopeful

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stella polaris
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posted March 29, 2003 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Hopeful. How's your Mum?

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posted March 29, 2003 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hopeful     Edit/Delete Message
She has one more test to be scheduled - hopefully this week - and then we should know whether it's cancer again or not.

Thanks for asking!

Hopeful

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posted March 30, 2003 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Evergreen, Det var stor! Er De en psykolog?

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Randall
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posted March 31, 2003 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
For Hopeful's Mom:

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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stella polaris
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posted March 31, 2003 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
Evergreen er stor, ja, but I was hoping for your inputs, as well, Ra. Something didn't quite click in Evergreen's interpretation. The thing is, in the dream it was stressed that the house is not mine...Also, as for my creativity, it's quite good at the moment, it flows, flows when I write and I see the end of my book, which feels good. I think maybe the dream has to do with a relationship to a person...
So, what do you think?

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posted March 31, 2003 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
I will certainly take a closer look!

I should get some time tonight.

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posted April 01, 2003 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Evergreen     Edit/Delete Message
Stella, follow your hunches. You have a good intuition and there might be details giving clues in your dream and the feelings you had when dreaming it, that we don't pick up when looking into your dream.

Usually the house represents your self, but since you have a strong feeling it is about your relationship with a certain person, that would weigh the most, wouldn't it? The dream might tell about this person "being on the rocks/unproductive" or your relationship w/ this person being unproductive?

Ra, thank you for the compliment. But your help is needed here!

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posted April 02, 2003 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Stella!

I did not see it at first, but after looking at each of the symbols it becomes apparent (in my opinion) that the whole of the dreams is about unconscious material trying to become conscious, but blocked at every turn. Here is what I mean:

First dream - The brown bear symbolizes a cyclic activity of subconscious energies. The mirror is a reflection of self and symbolizes a connection or window between the conscious and unconscious. The shattering of this mirror indicates that there is a broken connection to the unconscious from whence this energy/material is trying to manifest.

The symbols in the second dream repeat this theme ... but I will have to get to that later ... I am out of time!

And I am trying to see something more specific in the symbols, other than "unconscious to conscious" stuff. I will keep the relationship possibility in mind.

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posted April 03, 2003 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ra     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, as you said, this house you have "dreamt about many times before", indicating cyclic activity anent some aspect of your life (house). that contains some sort of energy (red) which is trying to present itself. Your subconscious is attempting to create a higher perspective (higher up) from which to "view" this old pattern (old town).

You say the house is not yours, but indicate it is desirable and could have been yours (affordable). Could this represent an aspect of self that you have distanced yourself from or do not want to "own"? I do not know ...

Rock does indeed insinuate infertility, but in this context it could represent a barrier. The ground or earth can symbolize the unconscious, so perhaps this rocky terrain indicates a barrier to the unconscious, which would, in effect, make infertile the waking consciousness to this particular energy/material.

The descending stairs can symbolize steps into the sub/unconscious, as Evergreen said, but here they are upon rock, which to me indicates the "hardness" of this process. There is the ability to penetrate the subconscious (stairs) but difficulty penetrating into the unconscious (rock).

The bottom of these stairs could represent the threshold, the place at which the subconscious meets the unconscious - and here appears the polar bear. Very similar symbology to the first dream! Animals can represent instinctual energies which emanate from the unconscious, so this aggressive, white bear is a perfect symbol for unconscious energies (panther) attemtping to enter (aggressive) the subconscious (bear) and into awareness (white). But again, this energy/material is forced back into the unconscious (locked in garage/basement).

So, the question is, what is this energy? There are clues, but I am uncertain. Many of these symbols carry related secondary meanings:
-The female brown bear could represent subconscious, feminine energy.
-The red house could represent emotions - passion?, love?, anger?
-The panther can symbolize instinctual feminine energy.
-The polar bear can represent "cold" or "frozen" emotions/energies.
-The basement can represent repressed sexuality or sexual feelings in a somewhat negative context.

See what I mean? So what does this mean? I can only speculate ... you would know better.

You said you think this is about a relationship ... does any of this symbology fit the situation?

Is someone being aggressive, or are you? Or perhaps aggression is needed?

Do you feel that your feminine energies are being repressed somehow? Or are more needed?

Has this happened before?

It is sometimes difficult to decipher what these unconscious energies are trying to say, because they are, after all, unconscious/unaware by nature!

What do you think?


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stella polaris
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posted April 03, 2003 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for stella polaris     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, Ra! Together with what Evergreen wrote you made this dream make sense to me! I don't think the two dreams are connected. I think the first is about my female self-image being scattered...
The second one is about a relationship to this woman, I thought we could have been great friends, but something happened. There are sides that are attractive and that I would have wanted, but I believe the dream showed me how unfruitful, barren this relationship is and how I just hide my anger towards her and frozen emotions...

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