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QueenofSheeba
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posted November 01, 2003 04:06 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I say they should stay, but as the reconstruction's costs rise higher and higher and the deathtoll mounts, public support for the war is eroding and the Democrats talk more and more about "Bringing the troops home". I doubt they'll do that, though, even if they win the Presidency in 2004-- it would be tantamount to handing the country to the extremists on a platter.

But oh!-- what fun our soldiers are having in the Land Between the Rivers: daily roadside bombings, handing candy out to the children, firefights with the Fedayeen, building infrastructure, now and then a mob confrontation, training a new and improved Iraqi army, the occasional terrorist attack on a hotel...

What do you think of asking the UN for help?

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proxieme
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posted November 02, 2003 11:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
*watching "Inside Washington*

All I know is that it flippin' p*sses me off when 55-year-old syndicated columnists blythely talk about this being a "long hard slog" perhaps lasting years when they're completely disconnected from this conflict in any form beyond the most abstract.

*wants to punch Charles Krauthammer*

It's the removed tone that these people adopt that gets me more than anything; this is not of their world, except to the extent that it affects their career or the careers of those they examine.

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QueenofSheeba
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posted November 03, 2003 04:16 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Plz tell me you have opinions on this.

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proxieme
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posted November 03, 2003 09:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
People do.
They just don't like really, really ugly debates.

(Notice my artful dodge.)

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Randall
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posted November 04, 2003 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Whatever they do, they need to find the real cause of the attacks--Saddam.

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QueenofSheeba
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posted November 07, 2003 12:44 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice artful dodge, prox.

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Motherkonfessor
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posted November 07, 2003 04:52 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wasn't going to post on this topic. I spend too much time online already debating it. So I will try to keep it short and non-inflammatory......

1) Saddam Hussain had nothing to do with 9-11. Nothing. Even Bush said it. Stop watching Fox News.

2) Yes he was a bad man. So is the leader of North Korea, who is building nuclear bombs as we speak. It appears that Kim Jong is going to actually have to set one off before Bush pays attention to it.

3) Its all about oil. Don't be fooled by the pithy statement "We freed the Iraqi people" The US has been bombing Iraq for the past 12 years. The depleted uranium we dumped on Iraq in Daddy Bush's war has caused birth defects and cancer rates to jump 120%. If we cared about the plight of the Iraqis, do we pretend the past 15 years didn't happen?

4) Where's Osama? Didn't Bush promise to bring him in- dead or alive? Or does that not matter anymore because Osama has connects with high ranking Saudis...and Bush and the Saudis go waaaaaaaaaaay back?

I am going to stop with just those points.
Tomorrow there is a funeral for a local girl who was killed in Iraq. She was in the Army.

Tomorrow would have been her 20th birthday.

I have 4 family members serving in various branches of the armed forces right now.
I cannot stomach the idea of anyone..not just the people I know personally..dying in this "conflict." Remember.... Bush said the war is over...

Queen.....we have asked the UN for help. Unfortunately, Bush alienated them with his cowboy stance before we even started the bombing. David Kaye's report has come back.....NO evidence of WMDs anywhere. Bush jumped the gun without UN support...and now he wants money yet still tells the UN that the US will be in charge of all decisions.
Bush made a fool of Powell by making him testify to the UN on the plagarized words of a grad student's thesis that the threat of WMDs from Iraq was imminent.

Sorry for my verbosity. I vote out, out, out. The Pentagon didn't want this war because there was no exit plan. Bush seems to proud to admit failure and just leave.
I am afraid our troops are going to be out there dying for many years to come.

PS Just today it was announced that by January another 85,000 troops will be sent to Iraq and Afghanistan.

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