posted October 25, 2010 02:16 PM            

Now, if it is also true that ET's may have links to the governments, and these are the not so good ET's......it makes one wonder where is the good in the world?!! Surely there is good out there?!

Well what if there is, but first we need to ask it to help before it can intervene?

posted October 25, 2010 08:07 PM            

I have been thinking the same thoughts too.

The 'good ones' whom we could refer to as angels or benevolent ETs respect FREE WILL and therefore do not interfere in our affairs. The 'bad ones' and the root of our problems are not unlike locusts, going where they find resources that can be devoured, and ofcourse, not giving a damn about being uninvited guests.

The good ones would rather not interfere with human evolution and allow us to sort us out without outsiders muddling our minds. Only thing is, there has already been so much interference. Different races of ETs have already warped our DNA so much, we cannot survive without it.

Here's a bit of GENETICS 101, that I learnt in my first year. Bear with me, it will be interesting.

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Genetics grades evolution in a vertical tree pattern. There are branches, but the branches are independent and do not exchange genes with each other.

However, gene transfer occurs only in a vertical manner, like a ladder: A -> B -> C and so on.

Now, genes are portions of our DNA and our DNA is made up of 4 basic blocks(nucleotides):
A (adenine)
G (Guanine)
T (Thymine) and
C (Cytosine)

These four letters make up the genetic code which is basically a blueprint for the synthesis of proteins. The above four letters or bases combine in triplets to code for amino acids which form the building block of proteins.

The body uses 20 basic amino acids to build the complex diversity of our genetic make-up.
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posted October 25, 2010 08:09 PM            

A head scratching discovery was made while tracing the vertical evolutionary record of human evolution.

The human genome contains 223 genes that do not have the required predecessors on the genomic evolutionary tree.

Now, at first glance it would seem that 223 genes is no big deal. In fact, while every single gene makes a great difference to every individual, 223 genes make an immense difference to a species such as ours.

The difference between Man and Chimpanzee is less than one percent as genes go; and one percent of 30,000 genes is 300.

So, 223 genes is more than two thirds of the difference between me, you and a chimpanzee!

In the evolutionary progression from bacteria to invertebrates to vertebrates and finally modern humans, these 223 genes are completely missing in the invertebrate phase.

the scientists can explain their presence in the human genome by a “rather recent” (in evolutionary time scales) “probable horizontal transfer from bacteria.”

In other words: At a relatively recent time as Evolution goes, modern humans acquired an extra 223 genes not through gradual evolution, not vertically on the Tree of Life, but horizontally, as a sideways insertion of genetic material from bacteria. [wink wink, cover up ]

An analysis of the functions of these genes through the proteins that they spell out, conducted by the Public Consortium team and published in the journal Nature, shows that they include not only proteins involved in important physiological but also psychiatric functions. Moreover, they are responsible for important neurological enzymes that stem only from the mitochondrial portion of the DNA – the so-called “Eve” DNA that humankind inherited only through the mother-line, all the way back to a single “Eve.” That finding alone raises doubt regarding that the "bacterial insertion" explanation.

An analysis of the proteins which the enigmatic genes express showed that out of 35 identified, only ten had counterparts in vertebrates (ranging from cows to rodents to fish); 25 of the 35 were unique to humans.

So, basically, the scientists are saying that genes, which have not been found in our closest relative the chimpanzee, and whose proteins are not found in other vertebrates like cows and rodents, were suddenly inserted into our genome by bacteria! Now, that's a theory

More on this link: http://www.sitchin.com/adam.htm

So coming back to the original post, I agree that humans cannot simply splice away those genes and hope to survive. Because our evolution was tampered with, we have become "dependent" on those genes for survival.

However, if the radio-buzz on the internet is right, then the benefic ETs have not given up on us and they keep a watch on us and monitor our activities from far. A group of benefic ETs from the Kuiper Belt beyond Pluto have been credited with shutting down the Large Hadron Collidor at CERN before it could damage the Earth.

As Aragorn said in LOTR: The Two Towers:

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There is always hope.

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Love and Light.
Peace.

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अस्तो मा सद् गमय |
तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय |
मृत्योन् मा अमृतं गमय् ||
ॐ शांति शांति शांति

posted October 26, 2010 03:58 PM            

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Thanks FQ!
Hey, you have Hindi in your signature! I like it

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You're welcome
I'm just being my picky self here, but its Sanskrit

Please, don't mind.

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अस्तो मा सद् गमय |
तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय |
मृत्योन् मा अमृतं गमय् ||
ॐ शांति शांति शांति

posted October 28, 2010 03:13 AM              

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If there is good out there, does it need to be invited first before it can help?

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Honestly, I don't know.

If you're looking for concrete, scientifically verifiable evidence, I haven't got it, and I'm not entirely sure what it would look like. Or if it even exists. But I've considered many philosophies, and I can share what seems reasonable to me...

The whole thing about them respecting our "free will" and not intervening seems unlikely. They know we want help, even before we ask for it. Even before we know it ourselves. At the same time, I think they're in a better position to help us when we signal them somehow. But, as I'm fond of repeating, even praying for grace is a grace. In other words, if we're turning to the angels, it's a clear sign that they've already begun to arrive.

Also, I had some thoughts today about how much evil is in the world. When you really see our weakness, and all the greed and corruption that is out there, it's kind of amazing that things aren't even worse than they are! I mean, think about it. Despite the fact that there are many people who will do anything for money, and many people who are willing and able to pay them to do nasty things, -- despite all this, -- there is still so much good in the world. The bad guys haven't won. Sure, the war rages on. But they haven't won. Well, why the hell not? Because something is preventing them.

posted October 28, 2010 11:12 AM            

i think many people can NOT be bought, or at least not in any significant way...and yet i do think that in order to really pass by the "evil forces" one has to consciously open to the opportunity...

however as trite as it may seem now, a film like "its a wonderful life" shows a fairly common scenario where a good person who is about to give up receives a "nudge" from "above" to help them carry on in the face of seemingly impossible odds.

posted October 28, 2010 10:06 PM            

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I'm just being my picky self here, but its Sanskrit

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I read something similar to Hindi and it looked a lot like it

Valus:

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Echoes fade and memories die:
Autumn frosts have slain July

posted October 29, 2010 01:35 AM            

MK Ultra...ritual child abuse....secret societies abusing children....children starving to death needlessly every day because of the needless invention of debt....9/11....people dying in war at the whims and lies of their governments....people dying of poverty, curable diseases, dirty water....animal mutilation in the name of "science" (to get any new product quickly and cheaply onto the market- not just medicine but anything).....

It might be easy to convince ourselves that MK Ultra, ritual child abuse and such do not happen simply because we have not seen it with our own eyes....it seems fictional because we have only read about it or seen someone talking about it on the internet. Poverty....its easy not to think about it as long as we have our basic needs for survival fulfilled, or to say that the reason it happens is just karma or something. Animal suffering...that all happens behind closed doors, not in our faces, so easy to block the reality of it out and only notice the presence of compassion in people; that which is visible to us, not hidden.

posted October 29, 2010 02:18 AM            

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अस्तो मा सद् गमय |
तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय |
मृत्योन् मा अमृतं गमय् ||
ॐ शांति शांति शांति

posted October 29, 2010 03:34 AM              

You believe paranoia exists, yes?

It is a thing. Yes?

And some people, paranoid people,
see all sorts of demons in the shadows.

This happens. Yes?

I'm not saying the other things don't.
I'm saying not everything you hear is true.
SOME things are paranoid delusions.

You don't need to tell me about facing sh!t.

I've been trying to show people here
what happens to animals, you know that.

I've made sacrifices because I didn't deny it.

But I also know not everything is true.

Just because it sounds sinister,
doesn't mean it must be true,
and if you disbelieve it,
you must be running away.

Agreed?

Are you familiar with D.I.D.
(dissociative identity disorder)?

I had a friend who worked in a mental ward.
You might be amazed at the sophistication
of some of the hallucinations.

People who were raped by their parents,
or brothers, or uncles, can imagine
that the president raped them.

They can imagine all sorts of things.
Horrible things, which, nonetheless,
protect them from a truth which, to them,
is even more horrific.

They tell their stories,
and paranoiacs eat it up.

This is how bullsh!t conspiracies spiral.

No, not all of them are bull.

But some are. Some must be.

And in all this time...

What proof can you give me?

Some architecture echoing masonic themes?

And that proves... what?

Seriously.

And even if you are right about all of it,
what good do you think you are doing
just by being right?

By staring it in the teeth?

What are you accomplishing?

Besides making yourself neurotic?

Besides spreading fear?

What's your plan of action now?

You can't even convince ME,
and my mind is as open as an abyss.

Let's see the evidence.

You've spent how many hours on youtube
scouring conspiracies videos???

So, if there's proof,
you must have the pieces, right?

Show them to me.

Show me something.

Because I'm not convinced.

Show me the reptilians,
show me all the rest of it.

Or don't.

Just keep talking big.

Talk some more about how fearless you are,
and how we're all fearful sheep in denial.

And we need to see.

See what?

Almost everyone knows
about the secret billionaire boys' clubs.

We know about that stuff.

We know money is changing hands.

We know the public interest
isn't in the politician's interest.

I've been spreading information
about a plant that lets you see God.

Not too many people want to hear it,
but I can back it up with evidence.

I've spread info about alternative treatments
and what's up with the AMA and Big Pharma.

I've spread The Gerson Method.
It saves lives. There's evidence.
I've shown the evidence. Hard evidence.

What can you show me, that will save lives?

Where is the evidence?

Have you considered the possibility
that you are paranoid?

Please don't be offended.
You know I like and admire you.
This is one issue we disagree on.
But there's so much we see eye to eye on.

I've said what I can say.

If you think I'm closing my eyes, fine.

But I'm asking you to show me.

My eyes are wide f*cking open.

posted October 29, 2010 10:28 AM            

9/11 Evidence?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO1ps1mzU8o
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pi0bDy-6m3o
Edited: Sigh, reading through some of the comments of the link just above made me sad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFIGeINof0Y

posted October 29, 2010 10:33 AM            

Also, for your information, I do not enjoy "talking big" for the fun of it. The only thing I'm interested in is the truth. I do not desire to be "correct" for my own personal satisfaction. I don't care any more. I do not even understand completely what gives me the need to spread information from time to time. I figure it might not achieve anything but I should do a little when I can.

posted October 29, 2010 12:15 PM              

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by me saying I didn't agree that bad is not being allowed to win by something

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I don't know what this means. It doesn't relate to what I was saying in my initial post, or to my reasons for getting worked up in my second post. I got worked up because you seemed to be accusing me of closing my eyes out of fear. And I'm well aware that things are "bad". My initial comments were founded on the assumption that things are SO bad, it is a mystery why they are not worse. Maybe that was unclear.

I never heard of "Mk Ultra",
but I was the first person on Lindaland
to post about the 9/11 cover-up.

I'll watch those videos. Thank you.

Yes, it's frustrating when we can't
find a consensus, and we fuss with each other,
rather than with the ones responsible for the confusion.

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Also, for your information, I do not enjoy "talking big" for the fun of it. The only thing I'm interested in is the truth. I do not desire to be "correct" for my own personal satisfaction. I don't care any more.

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WOW, that's amazing, LTT.

posted October 29, 2010 01:27 PM            

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I got worked up because you seemed to be accusing me of closing my eyes out of fear.

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Valus the bad guys get away with what they do because it happens in secrecy, and when one tries to inform people about it (just from personal general experience), they would rather turn their heads to have "ignorance is bliss" than to acknowledge it and have it disturb them. (I'm referring more to experience with people I know, not directing that at anyone here)

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WOW, that's amazing, LTT.

Congratulations on becoming enlightened.

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posted October 29, 2010 02:01 PM              

The first video is a find,
I never saw that one before.

I've seen the second one.

posted November 08, 2010 05:15 PM            

The way I look at it for free will etc, is as a collective logos the main soul group here chose to leave their garden of eden and enter into a discordian environment, thus the forbidden fruit/apple which pops up again and again in gnosticism, mythology, and many corporate logos. If the collective whole chose help than we would get it. We can learn so much from everything we experience, even the negative. As much as I hate my life now, I chose to experience it knowing how much I would hate it, and I've learned a lot as a consequence. I have seen past lives as a hybrid reptilian, but of course, that doesn't mean it exists. I could be psychotic.. I was even an atheist last year so don't believe me.. I'm a spiritual whacko! It's not something I wanted to see/believe. The majority of my lives before earth were human. In fact, if you don't believe in reptilians, go play on indigosociety.com for a while. Listen to the members talk about illuminati, masonry, and being reptilian and proud. They're psychotic too, and when an entity comes after you like it has for many people who go there, call yourself psychotic and take a powerful neuroleptic to shrink the size of your brain. Have a field day with it in fact. You imagined all of indigosociety! Satanism doesn't exist too!

I'm going to stop now. Ignorance ****** me off. Oh yeah.. the occult symbology in the music industry, particularly with Lady Gaga is bs too. The 2009 Video Music awards was not a symbolic satanic ritual complete with blood sacrifice/mk-ultraesque lady gaga performance. When they were joking about holding hands and praying to satan, they were joking because that would never happen in mainstream america. Let me drink my fluoridated water so I can be part of the controlled masses just like hitler invisioned controlling the Jews in Germany!

A person gloating about being reptilian etc and about attacking some helpless victim.. http://indigosociety.com/showthread.php?34073-i-think-it-s-ridiculous-the- comments-trying-to-warn-us http://indigosociety.com/showthread.php?34721-The-reptilian-attack

their post on mk-ultra, comes with testimony, bill clinton's pseudo-apology among other things http://indigosociety.com/showthread.php?33588-MKULTRA-court-testimonies

Sorry this came out so harsh, and Valus I do respect you. If IS is disinfo it is convincing in it's scope to a larger conspiracy of sorts. The gang-stalking that happens on IS is creepy and intriguing too.

Occult Video Music Awards w/ mk-ultra symbolism, Beyonce, Taylor Swift and Lady Gaga: http://theindustryexposed.com/index.php?option=com_content &view=article&id=15:vma-occult-ritual&catid=2:newsarticles

Lady Gaga Illuminati and MK-Ultra: http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=1676

lady gaga satanic ritual abuse and nwo: http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3979
lady gaga and beyonce

Lady gaga dissociation and violence: http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=3423

Tupac's death and Illuminati.. very long.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iSNWeMqdEm0

There is a f*ing zodiac wheel at hoover dam.. yes.. they believe in this stuff and practice it, but manipulate it to hide the truth from us (see iqhunk) http://www.flickr.com/photos/josh1/4682395357/

About fluoride, I recommend you watch the whole series.. the preson who organized the book was killed by illuminati http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZhQvBQWdH0

They think we're stupid and that they are the superior race. The stuff is right in our faces! And that's not even counting the more subtle mind control and influence they exercise. A part of me feels like on a metaphysical level, they need our permission and free will choice, so putting it out there is what's required to ask.

Either way, don't fear it because that's what they feed on. We are stronger than them and we outnumber them. We are more than our lives. Choose the positive vibration.. love. As hokey as it sounds, they cannot beat that.

posted December 12, 2010 09:26 AM            

The best place to hide a grain of sand is on a beach...hiding in plain sight.

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अस्तो मा सद् गमय |
तमसो मा ज्योतिर्गमय |
मृत्योन् मा अमृतं गमय् ||
ॐ शांति शांति शांति