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lotusheartone
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From: piopolis, quebec canada
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted July 12, 2006 11:30 PM
 
Anything you would like to talk about..the deep mysteries and the Truth..revealed. ...LOts of LOve to EveryOne... . In the beginning..in the last creation..
God created Man Adam...
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silverstone
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posted July 13, 2006 02:42 AM
Greetings Lotus,
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In the beginning..in the last creation..
God created Man Adam... Creations sounds interesting to discuss. I wonder if Adam was the first human? Just some thoughts... 
Rant over
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sesame
Moderator Posts: 1330
From: Oz
Registered: Nov 2003
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posted July 15, 2006 07:54 AM
You guys should read Ishmael ( http://www.ishmael.com/Vision/ ). I've almost finished it, and it has such great stories and theories like you wouldn't believe. Their story of Adam is awesome and thorough. A very spiritual and philosophical book. I disagree with a fair ammount of the ending though.Dean. ------------------
I realized it for the first time in my life:
there is nothing but mystery in the world,
how it hides behind the fabric of our poor,
browbeat days, shining brightly, and we don't even know it. Sue Monk Kidd, "The Secret Life of Bees", p79 My numerology program based on "Star Signs" by Linda Goodman
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juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted July 15, 2006 09:56 AM
Ishmael is one of my all time favorites.
Have you read:
Beyond Civilization : Humanity's Next Great Adventure? Ishmael is a first read tho to understand all the concepts.
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Lei_Kuei
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From: Window Between World
Registered: May 2005
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posted July 15, 2006 11:15 AM
Alien abductions, real or a product of peoples imaginations/wantings!?  If people are being abducted, why so... research in cross breeding perhaps!
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lotusheartone
Knowflake Posts: 6745
From: piopolis, quebec canada
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posted July 15, 2006 12:28 PM
WOW!  wonderful and interesting! In the beginning..first Adam the Eve..some I believe were here from the last fall..
5 couples starting the last creation..as they repesented the planets.. Alien's..well I have not met the star born one's as of yet..in this life..but do have visions..they are more intelligent then us..created just as the 5 couples were..
they pro-create differently..and are not hindered by the physical world of Earth.. The Star born One's have always been here to visit and help..more so through the native Indian culture..for the the World..would not greet them fairly..when they are here, it is to help.. LOts of LOve to EveryOne. ... IP: Logged |
Lei_Kuei
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From: Window Between World
Registered: May 2005
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posted July 15, 2006 12:42 PM
Not so much interested in the creation theories flying about at the moment, its far to messy!Like I said, what of possible abductions, anyone feel the have been abducted or know someone whom has experienced this! I haven't, just so you know  IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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From: piopolis, quebec canada
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posted July 15, 2006 12:45 PM
well..I have seen a spaceship..and it made white bright light all over our house in Canada..the entire house was so bright..this light lasted for a few minutes..then was gone and the ship..went out of sight. ...I did not feel scared..I felt at peace..as if they were doing something Good... . IP: Logged |
Lei_Kuei
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From: Window Between World
Registered: May 2005
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posted July 15, 2006 12:53 PM
Did anyone else besides you witness this, do you live in a built up area or the middle of nowhere.I do believe in space-faring/other realm travelers, I'm also sure that just like here on earth as regards people, there are bad and good "aliens" out there! I saw that movie once, "Fire in the Sky", that put the sh!ts up me bigtime, nasty nasty assed aliens that guy claimed to have seen... What I find most strange is that nearly all such sightings and abductions are reported in America for some reason...
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lotusheartone
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posted July 15, 2006 01:01 PM
Actually my daughter woke up first..and started screaming..and I said right away..it's all right..let just see what happens. ...It was when we first moved to Canada..2 1/2 years ago..in Massawippi, Quebec, Cananda. ... the star born alien's keep the bad one's away..is what has been shone to me. ... IP: Logged |
juniperb
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From: Blue Star Kachina
Registered: Mar 2002
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posted July 15, 2006 01:09 PM
Creation The age old conundrum of the two creation stories have plagued humankind for ages. If we compare the writings of Enoch and Ibn Arabi, we can see the "mystery" unfold.
In the Secrets of Enoch, we read of a perfected Human describing the order of Creation. Enoch was a few generations after Adam and had limited terminology/language to describe the events, Planes and Beings he visited. A couple of thousand years later, with more developed language/terminology, Ibn Arabi describes the very same Creation , Planes and Beings.
Studying both texts, it becomes clear they are in perfect agreement and there was two Creations!
The first was from the Singularity/Essence who spoke into existance the first Creation as we read in John: "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him" (John. 1:1-3). Unseen and unknown, Masculine Essence AND Feminine Essence . The planes of unknown existances followed this order. Angelic orders et al. So, Enoch and Ibn Arabi are stating that the order of Creation is first with the unseen and unknown planes. They then state the second Creation of the seen and known, material form. Adam & Eve, plants and animals. First the Unknown Order than the Known. Two Creations stories unfold. ------------------
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lotusheartone
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From: piopolis, quebec canada
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posted July 15, 2006 01:12 PM
Juniperb..have you read the Sibylline Oracles..it seems we would be on the 7th
Creation. ...what do you think? IP: Logged |
BlueRoamer
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From: Calm Blue Ocean, Calm Blue Ocean
Registered: Jun 2003
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posted July 15, 2006 01:53 PM
The only universal truth is that there is no universal truth. God, like man, time, and perception, is consantly changing. The only constant is the guarantee of change, of uncertainty. Ones mans joy is another mans pain.
One mans truth is another mans falsity. Call me an existentialist, but we create our own truths. Those that believe their truth is the only truth, and force it on others, are simply following what they think is true. But they should not be surprised when others react negatively when a truth that is not theirs is forced on them. Sometimes doing this only reinforces their own personal truth. The more is revealed, the more the mystery deepens. We're all living in the dark, and it's meant to be that way. IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
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From: piopolis, quebec canada
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posted July 15, 2006 01:59 PM
All I can say is..by going from Mind to HigherSelf to OverSoul GOD..you begin to know..and there is no FEAR. ...
and it's shiney and bright
filled with LOve.. . . .IP: Logged |
Lei_Kuei
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From: Window Between World
Registered: May 2005
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posted July 15, 2006 02:14 PM
Lotus: In my opinion if you are being oversouled, it is that being that is exerting its will on you, Id dump the freeloading oversouler lotus Who's to say that everything you see isn't just what your oversoul wants you to see and believe...
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lotusheartone
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From: piopolis, quebec canada
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted July 15, 2006 02:20 PM
My OverSoul..is who I am truly..and all the Love and Light and Magic that comes..well..I just can't deny it!. ... IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 4806
From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted July 15, 2006 02:54 PM
 Please define "oversoul".  Too many different ideas confuse.
I have heard at least 5 versions and definitions of what folks think it means. Broadly and generally speaking I tend to agree with Lei_Kuei. But not sure if he is speaking of one thing and you another. Thank you.  ------------------
~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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lotusheartone
Knowflake Posts: 6745
From: piopolis, quebec canada
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posted July 15, 2006 02:56 PM
I believe I have explained it as best as I can..it is the you-of-you..the God source..level of you. ...IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 4806
From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted July 15, 2006 03:03 PM
Ok
You mean God spark within, not some "thing" hanging about "outside" of your aura clinging to you.
If so, Cool. ------------------
~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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lotusheartone
Knowflake Posts: 6745
From: piopolis, quebec canada
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted July 15, 2006 03:05 PM
Each of our OverSoul's are in Heaven we are always connected to Heaven and the God source..
from Earth Mind to HigherSelf..spirit realm to Heaven OverSoul..GOD. ...IP: Logged |
Lei_Kuei
Knowflake Posts: 288
From: Window Between World
Registered: May 2005
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posted July 15, 2006 03:11 PM
I'm speaking of the cling-on too, not sparky Friendly cling-ons can be ok I guess unless they hack your firewall and remote control your ass IP: Logged |
fayte.m
Knowflake Posts: 4806
From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~
Registered: Mar 2005
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posted July 15, 2006 03:27 PM
I agree Lei_Kuei
If it is outside of you it is not often a good thing. Nothing outside of you is actually you. Exceptions are NDEs and OBEs but no one else is using your physical body. To let something oversee you and run your life is much the same as being possessed.  A soul/entity "outside" is not you.------------------
~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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lotusheartone
Knowflake Posts: 6745
From: piopolis, quebec canada
Registered: Jul 2005
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posted July 15, 2006 03:32 PM
funny..I knew you would do what you are doing..thus it does not matter and I don't Mind. ....Have all the fun you like, Fayte! IP: Logged |
lotusheartone
Knowflake Posts: 6745
From: piopolis, quebec canada
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posted July 15, 2006 03:37 PM
bows, and then curtsies..with big happy smile on face. ... IP: Logged |
fayte.m
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From: ~out looking for Schrodinger's cat~
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posted July 15, 2006 03:52 PM
Lotus I am not teasing you.
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"funny..I knew you would do what you are doing..thus it does not matter and I don't Mind. ....
Have all the fun you like, Fayte!"
What are you going on about this time? 
I simply asked an honest question, then stated my opinion, and that is that.
You have your point of view and I have mine.
You rather surprised me by speaking of an outside God, when you usually speak of GOD WITHIN.
Folks have all kinds of points of views. Some will agree with you. Some will agree with me. Some will not agree with either of us. I see no issue or problem here Lotus. Please "do not assume" malicious intent when none was intended. Thank you.  ------------------
~I intend to continue learning forever~Enigma
~I am still learning~ Michangelo
The Door to Gnosis is never permanently locked...one only needs the correct keys and passwords.~Enigma
The pious man with closed eyes can often hold more ego than a proud man with open eyes.~NEXUS
Out of the mouth of babes commeth wisdom that can rival that of sages.~Enigma
In the rough, or cut and polished..a diamond is still a precious gem.
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