posted August 31, 2004 09:49 PM         

I am sorry to hear about the accident and your loss.

I do believe very strongly in karma and reincarnation. Yes, I believe that almost everyone in our lives is from a past life with us.

Betty Bethards, author, mystic, pyschic, taught me that the animals we have in this life, are the same souls of animals we have had in past lives. She also says that animals reincarnate right away.

She also taught me that animals only reincarnate as animals, and people only reincarnate as people. Buddists will disagree with this, but this is what I believe.

There are a few threads here about animals passing.

posted September 01, 2004 04:55 PM         

Here's what I believe about animal reincarnation:

quote:

---

Looking at the question in the light of Theosophical theories, we see that a wide distinction exists between man and animals. Man reincarnates as man because he has got to the top of the present scale of evolution. He cannot go back, for Manas is too much developed. He has a Devachan because he is a conscious thinker. Animals cannot have Manas so much developed, and so cannot be self-conscious in the sense that man is. Besides all this, the animal kingdom, being lower, has the impulse still to rise to higher forms. But here we have the distinct statement by the Adepts through H.P.B. that while possibly animals may rise higher in their own kingdom they cannot in this evolution rise to the human stage, as we have reached the middle or turning-point in the fourth round. On this point H.P.B. has, in the second volume of the Secret Doctrine (first ed.) at p. 196, a foot note as follows:

In calling the animals "Soulless," it is not depriving the beast, from the humblest to the highest species, of a "soul," but only of a conscious surviving Ego-soul, i.e., that principle which survives after a man and reincarnates in a like man.

The animal has an astral body that survives the physical form for a short period; but its (animal) Monad does not reincarnate in the same, but in a higher species, and has no "Devachan" of course. It has the seeds of all the human principles in itself, but they are latent

---

Devachan: In the lecture “The Mysteries of Life and Death," Samael Aun Weor describes the Davachan as “a region of ineffable happiness in the World of the Universal Superior Mind.”And in "Mental Representations," he says, "The dead commonly waste much time in the Devachan. I will not deny that this Devachan is a place of happiness and delights, but the figures that make life in the Devachan agreeable are merely living representations of the families, parents, and friends they left on Earth. In one word, the forms of the Devachan are living mental representations, or effigies. They result in a bizarre nature, that is why I say they waste too much time in the Devachan, but they are happy in this place. They feel accompanied by the loved ones they left on Earth. They do not even remotely notice that this world of happiness is full of mental effigies. If they noticed, they would lose the Devachan for themselves

posted September 02, 2004 03:40 PM         

Randall, You're a one of a kind man

With your marvelous use of words that make me swoon and you compassion... you're lucky I'm a married woman!

posted September 02, 2004 07:46 PM         

How are you doing Alice Rabbit? Condolences for your loss with Cruiser

posted September 02, 2004 09:59 PM         

I remember your baby bird! You made a post about him/her and titled it, "I'm a Father!!!!". I am sorry for your loss of him/her, and I'm sure the little bird knows how much of an effort you made to take care of him/her.

AliceRabbit,

I believe that all animals have Souls, and that they are higher evolved than humans. Animals incarnate to earth, knowing they are going to be slaughtered for human food and products, knowing they will help guide blind humans, knowing they will help autistic children, knowing they have a mission, a place, a role.

posted September 06, 2004 10:21 PM         

My cat, Pippy--I didn't name him--, went missing a few years back and I was so distraut because I was supposed to be taking care of the animals when my mom was out of town. Well, both cats were outside around 10 pm and they looked a little spooked, so I tried to get them to come inside. Quita did, but Pippy wouldn't budge from the front porch. I figured he was old enough to do what he wanted, and I wasn't going to make him do anything he didn't want to, so I decided to check on him later. We never saw him again. I should have picked him up and put him inside.

posted September 06, 2004 11:47 PM         

After he died my husband told me that he would be back and that maybe he would be our son. (Please understand we have known 2 of our children before we even met eachother. We dream about them and converse with them on a regular basis. But there is a third child that we know about but we do not know personally. Back to my story though.) I appriciated the comfort but did not think much of it because he wanted him back as much as I did and we still both do. I went to work that same day and cried all day. My co-workers were so helpfull I was so lucky to have such support. But one of the girls I really like and respect came up to me and ask me if I believed in rencarnation, I said yes, then she told me that she was a cat in her last life time. She gave me a hug and told me I would definatly see him again. I pushed that away too because it hurt to bad at the time. Two days later the family went grocery shopping like we always do at the same wholesale food warehouse. We have shopped there for a year. I was pushing the cart and waiting for Ash to go get toilet paper. I was looking at the floor the whole time cause I really didn't want to be there but went for the company. I looked up just then and noticed the diapers that had always been there but I never paid attenten to one brand caught my eye they were Cruisers. I've never even heard of them before. I know I'm getting carried away with my thoughts but it is so nice to dream that I had already held my third child that has been so elisive all these years and that one day he will return to me.

posted September 07, 2004 01:16 PM         

Might I gently suggest going to counseling or therapy? I lost 5 pets in 2 years, and I wish I had gone. I am sure it will help.