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IV XXIV
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posted May 03, 2014 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV XXIV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I've done some reading on it and I'm getting copious amounts of paradoxes. Some say it's a terrible placement to have and basically are praying for my future partner, others are saying it's a great, protective placement.. Then I read something along the lines of issues with abusive parents, and homelessness and living in other people's homes/being miserable for the rest of my life.


So.. If anyone has the same placements, or knows anything about this placement.. Please shed some light. I'm a bit worried now lol.

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BellaFenice
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posted May 03, 2014 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BellaFenice     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What are your aspects and the house ruler?

I have Taurus Mars in 4th with neutral mars aspects and house ruler is Aries. I haven't had any major issues, except power struggles with my dad, which are minor.

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neptunicity
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posted May 03, 2014 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptunicity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have Mars in the 4th. My parents can be violent. We were beat up as kids as a form of "discipline". My mom is dead already, but my dad and bro molest me while I'm sleeping, it's sickening. Our "family" is also prone to having violent fights. Mars in the 4th is TERRIBLE, because you can't feel safe in your own home.

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IV XXIV
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posted May 03, 2014 08:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV XXIV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
quote:
Originally posted by BellaFenice:
What are your aspects and the house ruler?

I have Taurus Mars in 4th with neutral mars aspects and house ruler is Aries. I haven't had any major issues, except power struggles with my dad, which are minor.


It depends which site I use.. astro.com tells me my Mars is in the "end of the 3rd house", everywhere else tells me 4th. Cancer Mars, and my 4th house is also in Cancer.

Aspects:

Mars Opposite MC (Capricorn)
Mars Opposite Uranus (Capricorn, 9th house)
Mars Opposite Neptune (Cap, 9th house)
Mars Trine Pluto (Scorpio, 7th house)
Moon (in Gemini, 1st house) sextile Mars
Sun (in Taurus, 12th house) square Mars
Venus (in Aries, 12th house) trine Mars
Mars "inconjunction" Saturn (Aquarius, 11th house)

I don't know if this is much relevance but Mars is in Cancer at 28'20 degrees.. almost in Leo, and almost in the 4th house it looks like if you were to take a look at my natal wheel.

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IV XXIV
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posted May 03, 2014 08:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for IV XXIV     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by neptunicity:
I have Mars in the 4th. My parents can be violent. We were beat up as kids as a form of "discipline". My mom is dead already, but my dad and bro molest me while I'm sleeping, it's sickening. Our "family" is also prone to having violent fights. Mars in the 4th is TERRIBLE, because you can't feel safe in your own home.

Wow, I'm so sorry to hear that.. I hope you're doing okay and you're close to being old enough to move out.. Seriously, my heart goes out to you. I know it's highly unlikely and most times done in vain, but I'll be cliche: if you ever need anyone to talk to, feel free to give me a shout out. Can't help much but I can listen. It gets better, though! You won't have to live with them forever. And also: have you considered getting ahold of protective services? It's one thing to feel uneasy in your own home, but to have solid reasons such as molest.. That's a whole new ball game. I hope you seek out help.

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Kerosene
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posted May 03, 2014 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kerosene     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nah..

But this is my favorite placements for guys, I love being around them they are really sweet and easy going.
I think it offsets that masculinity which is kinda refreshing.
The only negative thing is that they suck at confrontation and sometimes fall apart, which in essence is what mars i all about standing up for yourself.

I noticed mars in cancer and leo is really common I know so many people with this placement.. even online there are tons of them

As for the 4th house it's probably nota stellar place for mars because its a domestic house.

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neptunicity
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posted May 04, 2014 06:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptunicity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by IV XXIV:
Wow, I'm so sorry to hear that.. I hope you're doing okay and you're close to being old enough to move out.. Seriously, my heart goes out to you. I know it's highly unlikely and most times done in vain, but I'll be cliche: if you ever need anyone to talk to, feel free to give me a shout out. Can't help much but I can listen. It gets better, though! You won't have to live with them forever. And also: have you considered getting ahold of protective services? It's one thing to feel uneasy in your own home, but to have solid reasons such as molest.. That's a whole new ball game. I hope you seek out help.

Thank you for that nice gesture.

I remember a fellow LL member saying that Mars in the 4th is the worst, she has it but she just said that she's being badly treated at home and wants to move out too. Mars isn't called a "malefic" planet for nothing.

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12muddy
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posted May 04, 2014 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 12muddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Idk about cancer mars, I have taurus mars in the 4th house - violence/abuse in the childhood home. But yah I got out early so things got a lot better. I learn to detect abusive behaviours though so in a twisted way, it really helps.

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next to neptune
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posted May 05, 2014 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for next to neptune     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hate it, seriously hate it… I feel bitter constantly about the fact I was born with this placement… I have virgo mars in 4th, mars opposite moon, conjunction sun and square uranus.

I have never felt lucky with my home environment, never.
I don't stay much at home for the same reason. People don't really visit me either. I don't know why, I feel a lot safer away from my own home. It's really annoying.

What about the day I have to create a family or move in with my boyfriend? I grudge that day I really do. It's going to be chaos.
I have no solution for how to solve this placement, but if anyone knows PLEASE share your experiences!!! IM DESPERATE

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neptunicity
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posted May 06, 2014 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for neptunicity     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, the only solution I can think of is to live by yourself. I'm sure no one will pester you at all when you live by yourself.

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