posted July 15, 2014 05:13 PM            

I'm new here (I suppose this is where I'm supposed to post this question).

Anyway, I just recently became interested in astrology, so please bear with me. I'm an Aquarius sun; above all else, that's how I categorize myself when people ask about my sign. (I don't know much about aspects or anything like that.) But I recently became curious because I'm REALLY-SUPER-INTERESTED in someone who has Scorpio sun, mercury, and venus. I would think my Aquarius sun would run from a person with so much Scorpio influence...

But now I'm pretty obsessed and I can only guess my "detached" Aquarius sun is not as strong as I thought...

I have
-sun square pluto
-pluto in 1st
-scorpio ascendant
-scorpio moon
-pisces venus

I really feel like I'm more the more obsessed person in this scenario (I'm doing my best to hold back.. haha 😁 .
My question is: when it comes to my personality, which traits will win out? My Aquarius sun, or my Scorpio stuff? I'd REALLY love to know.

posted July 15, 2014 05:20 PM            

Depends on the situation.

posted July 15, 2014 05:36 PM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
Why does everyone want to be Scorpio? Jeez

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posted July 15, 2014 05:43 PM            

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Originally posted by starrynight:

It's our mysterious fatal lover reputation. xD

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posted July 15, 2014 05:51 PM            

You ARE your sun sign. If you're kind of in auto pilot... you are your sun. You are your moon.

Then, when called on to go a little heavier into action your planets come into play harder, your aspects.
That's my THEORY. I don't know anyone else will agree.

Another thing is that having aspects to Scorpio will NOT make you Scorpio. It is NOT the same. IMO the sign will always be more natural, more consistent.
Will you have some traits... sure.

For the record, as a Leo with Gemini moon, heavy in Virgo. No offense to Scorpios out there. My nephew is Scorpio and I think he's awesome. But I dated a Scorpio and it was without doubt the most boring relationship I've ever had. Really dull.

posted July 15, 2014 05:53 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Nah I think it's because everyone wants to be "intense and passionate," dark, have depth and yata yata. Every sign has all of those, just expressed differently, some more or less than others. People need to stop comparing everything to one, they're is SO much more to astrology than that.

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posted July 15, 2014 06:26 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Nah I think it's because everyone wants to be "intense and passionate," dark, have depth and yata yata. Every sign has all of those, just expressed differently, some more or less than others. People need to stop comparing everything to one, they're is SO much more to astrology than that.

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Seriously. It's like only scorpios and Pluto placements are allowed to be intense and deep and emotional and sexy and like the sexiest sexies of the sexyverse. I've met just as many intense people with very little Pluto/Scorpio in their charts as people with tons.

Maybe most of scorpios power comes from everyone thinking they know what they're all about

posted July 15, 2014 06:46 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Seriously. It's like only scorpios and Pluto placements are allowed to be intense and deep and emotional and sexy and like the sexiest sexies of the sexyverse. I've met just as many intense people with very little Pluto/Scorpio in their charts as people with tons.

Maybe most of scorpios power comes from everyone thinking they know what they're all about

Also. Isn't everyone intense and super involved when they've found THE relationship?

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Exactly!! LOL and from all of the Scorpios I've met and known none of them were anything like the way they're praised here to be. Very wallflowerish. Too quiet and too to themselves. I just don't get the obsession with them here, it's like every other thread is about scorpio this or scorpio that, am I intense enough, blahblahblah. Why do we all need so much validation from strangers, why can't we be who were are and go with that, learn from it lol.

posted July 15, 2014 06:49 PM            

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Originally posted by Supreme cT:
I have an aqua moon my moon square pluto takes away the detachment pretty much it makes it like a switch either im very intense or into something or im not even interested im not a balanced person at all i used to wish i could live a balanced life but with all the scorp/pluto in my chart i would feel empty casually dipping into things i like to dive head first and disect every little bit or aspect of whatever im interested in i feel like air placements get weighed down from the heaviness of scorpio/pluto placements this is just my opinion since im 30% water 28% air in my chart i dont feel anything lightly. Scorpio is deff stronger for me.

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Aqua is fixed air. So they can get very obsessive. All the fixed signs get pretty fixated. My moms a Taurus with Aqua moon and there is literally no changing her kind about anything ever.

posted July 15, 2014 06:59 PM            

Neptune = mystic, intuition, psychic power, astral power, illusion, mirrors, mystery, projecting, glamour, ethereal
Pisces = impractical, easily swayed, bad positioning, melancholy, connected to people on a interpersonal level rather than personal, vulnerable, hidden, deceitful.

Pluto = primal passion, lust, fervor, strong vitality, controlling, possessive, obsessive, dominating, intense, intuitive, dark, masculine
Scorpio = passionate, mysterious, controlling, primal feminine, unknown feminine power, sacral chakra, vitality

posted July 15, 2014 07:04 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
Pluto aspects to personal planets are similar to Scorpio but not quite. It manifests differently. For example, I have Neptune aspecting my Ascendant and Sun (conjunct and opposite) and I have the more "pure" effects of the ruler rather than a natural Pisces.

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posted July 15, 2014 07:07 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Exactly!! LOL and from all of Scorpios I've met and known none of them were anything like the way they're praised here to be. Very wallflowerish. Too quiet and too to themselves. I just don't get the obsession with them here, it's like every other thread is about scorpio this or scorpio that, am I intense enough, blahblahblah. Why do we all need so much validation from strangers, why can't we be who were are and go with that, learn from it lol.

*shrugs shoulders* Your post always crack me up. Always real and to the point.

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Yeah. I love scorpios but not for the reasons astrology describes lol. I like them because the ones I know in real life are calm and stable and they are devoted to their friends. Some people find quiet people sexy, others find more dynamic people sexy. But it's like people say scorpios at all these different things.

posted July 15, 2014 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Exactly!! LOL and from all of the Scorpios I've met and known none of them were anything like the way they're praised here to be. Very wallflowerish. Too quiet and too to themselves. I just don't get the obsession with them here, it's like every other thread is about scorpio this or scorpio that, am I intense enough, blahblahblah. Why do we all need so much validation from strangers, why can't we be who were are and go with that, learn from it lol.

*shrugs shoulders* Your post always crack me up. Always real and to the point.

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According to my daughter (a first deacon Scorpio herself) November Scorpio men are more the "wallflower" type you mention. The October flavor of ladies I've met tend to make me agree. Maybe the deacon matters?

posted July 15, 2014 07:10 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Nah I think it's because everyone wants to be "intense and passionate," dark, have depth and yata yata. Every sign has all of those, just expressed differently, some more or less than others. People need to stop comparing everything to one, they're is SO much more to astrology than that.

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
No offense to Scorpios out there. My nephew is Scorpio and I think he's awesome. But I dated a Scorpio and it was without doubt the most boring relationship I've ever had. Really dull.

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posted July 15, 2014 07:13 PM            

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Originally posted by bansheequeen:
Yeah. I love scorpios but not for the reasons astrology describes lol. I like them because the ones I know in real life are calm and stable and they are devoted to their friends. Some people find quiet people sexy, others find more dynamic people sexy. But it's like people say scorpios at all these different things.

I'm tired of hearing about Scorpio aspects and how it's like the only thing that makes a person intense. Maybe people are just intense inside and no one shows it, or maybe the people that are willing to research astrology tend to have more intense personalities because we go to this length to try and figure people out. Most people I think just become intense with a few select people in their lives. Some people are intense with a lot more people.

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posted July 15, 2014 07:14 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
[b]Pluto aspects to personal planets are similar to Scorpio but not quite. It manifests differently. For example, I have Neptune aspecting my Ascendant and Sun (conjunct and opposite) and I have the more "pure" effects of the ruler rather than a natural Pisces.

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I don't agree. I don't care what anyone says. You can't have the more "pure" effects of the ruler than the sign, especially with an opposite and conjunct(they both are fighting each other). Neptune rules Pisces. That's like saying Italy didn't create pizza, when that's where it originated. house, sign and aspects do matter. [/B][/QUOTE]

posted July 15, 2014 07:15 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
So you're saying someone with Moon conjunct ASC is less Lunarian than someone Cancer Moon?

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posted July 15, 2014 07:21 PM            

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Originally posted by Gemini Blues:
According to my daughter (a first deacon Scorpio herself) November Scorpio men are more the "wallflower" type you mention. The October flavor of ladies I've met tend to make me agree. Maybe the deacon matters?

As for sexy sexiness... Bah... Give me a cuddly Cancer or classy Capricorn... with a dash of Leo or Sag for some steam or lava... But to each their own...

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posted July 15, 2014 07:28 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
Absolutely. Especially if the Cancer moon isn't heavily afflicted. They're similar, but not the same. Just like having a Taurus moon doesn't make a person a Taurus, you're just that way emotionally, it's not your core.

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I would say the Moon is our unconscious patterns of development and our basic emotions and needs, the Nadir is the angle ruled by the Moon which represents our home (whether physical or spiritual) and our current incarnation. I find the Moon to be the soul/psyche and the more personal point, and the Sun is our spirit and more interpersonal.

posted July 15, 2014 07:29 PM            

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Originally posted by Barbiegirl19:
That's the thing though sometimes I think the decans matter and sometimes I don't. It's hard to tell, especially in certain signs. I've meet all types of people some with the same birthdays and were complete opposites. It's the whole chart that matters though.

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Yeah. The same birthday thing is what makes me believe houses and angles have a huuuge part in a chart. I knew someone with my exact birthday, same year. And a couple people born within a few days of me on the same year but we all were very different. I never knew any of their birth times but I bet they all had different rising signs.

Though this was creepily accurate for me. But also not accurate for others. I think because my birthday in numerology is ruled by the moon and I coincidentally have cancer moon.
http://www.thesecretlanguage.com/check/birthdate/

posted July 15, 2014 07:33 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I would say the Moon is our unconscious patterns of development and our basic emotions and needs, the Nadir is the angle ruled by the Moon which represents our home (whether physical or spiritual) and our current incarnation. I find the Moon to be the soul/psyche and the more personal point, and the Sun is our spirit and more interpersonal.

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Isn't a soul a spirit?

posted July 15, 2014 07:36 PM            

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Originally posted by KarkaQueen:
I would say the Moon is our unconscious patterns of development and our basic emotions and needs, the Nadir is the angle ruled by the Moon which represents our home (whether physical or spiritual) and our current incarnation. I find the Moon to be the soul/psyche and the more personal point, and the Sun is our spirit and more interpersonal.

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