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Topic: Like a Scorpio....but not really a Scorpio.
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giannaferretti Newflake Posts: 4 From: Chicago, Illinois, USA Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 15, 2014 05:13 PM
Hi! I'm new here (I suppose this is where I'm supposed to post this question). Anyway, I just recently became interested in astrology, so please bear with me. I'm an Aquarius sun; above all else, that's how I categorize myself when people ask about my sign. (I don't know much about aspects or anything like that.) But I recently became curious because I'm REALLY-SUPER-INTERESTED in someone who has Scorpio sun, mercury, and venus. I would think my Aquarius sun would run from a person with so much Scorpio influence... But now I'm pretty obsessed and I can only guess my "detached" Aquarius sun is not as strong as I thought... I have -sun square pluto -pluto in 1st -scorpio ascendant -scorpio moon -pisces venus I really feel like I'm more the more obsessed person in this scenario (I'm doing my best to hold back.. haha 😁 . My question is: when it comes to my personality, which traits will win out? My Aquarius sun, or my Scorpio stuff? I'd REALLY love to know. Thanks so much. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 2419 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 15, 2014 05:20 PM
Why does everyone want to be Scorpio? JeezDepends on the situation. I have theories but let's see what others say. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 4222 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 15, 2014 05:20 PM
It depends on what's houses everything is in. If they're aspected or not. You should put your chart up. It'll give people a much better idea and technically this goes in interpersonal or personal readings. IP: Logged |
margym0o Knowflake Posts: 40 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Jul 2014
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posted July 15, 2014 05:25 PM
I feel similarly to you. I am a Gemini sun, but I feel VERY in touch with my Scorpio moon. My emotions run wild beneath the surface, especially in my personal relationships. Very unlike a stereotypical Gemini. I often seek out partnerships that are more "intense" or involved and I like it this way. I feel as though a relationship that was carefree and light would bore me.I am with a Cancer sun at the moment and though he drives me nuts sometimes with his moodiness, his sensitivity and emotional side intrigue me. The moodiness probably feeds my subconscious Gemini need to be kept on my toes though IP: Logged |
starrynight Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 15, 2014 05:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: Why does everyone want to be Scorpio? Jeez
It's our mysterious fatal lover reputation. xDIP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 4222 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 15, 2014 05:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by starrynight:
It's our mysterious fatal lover reputation. xD
Nah I think it's because everyone wants to be "intense and passionate," dark, have depth and yata yata. Every sign has all of those, just expressed differently, some more or less than others. People need to stop comparing everything to one, they're is SO much more to astrology than that. IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 2419 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 15, 2014 05:51 PM
Ok my thinking is this... You ARE your sun sign. If you're kind of in auto pilot... you are your sun. You are your moon. Then, when called on to go a little heavier into action your planets come into play harder, your aspects. That's my THEORY. I don't know anyone else will agree. Another thing is that having aspects to Scorpio will NOT make you Scorpio. It is NOT the same. IMO the sign will always be more natural, more consistent. Will you have some traits... sure. For the record, as a Leo with Gemini moon, heavy in Virgo. No offense to Scorpios out there. My nephew is Scorpio and I think he's awesome. But I dated a Scorpio and it was without doubt the most boring relationship I've ever had. Really dull. And I have Pluto/asc and lots of progressed Scorpio NN natally... Etc IP: Logged |
DeepFreeze Knowflake Posts: 2419 From: Pluto with Barbiegirl19 Registered: Nov 2013
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posted July 15, 2014 05:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: Nah I think it's because everyone wants to be "intense and passionate," dark, have depth and yata yata. Every sign has all of those, just expressed differently, some more or less than others. People need to stop comparing everything to one, they're is SO much more to astrology than that.
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Supreme cT Knowflake Posts: 402 From: NJ Registered: Jan 2014
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posted July 15, 2014 05:57 PM
I have an aqua moon my moon square pluto takes away the detachment pretty much it makes it like a switch either im very intense or into something or im not even interested im not a balanced person at all i used to wish i could live a balanced life but with all the scorp/pluto in my chart i would feel empty casually dipping into things i like to dive head first and disect every little bit or aspect of whatever im interested in i feel like air placements get weighed down from the heaviness of scorpio/pluto placements this is just my opinion since im 30% water 28% air in my chart i dont feel anything lightly. Scorpio is deff stronger for me.IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 380 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 06:26 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: Nah I think it's because everyone wants to be "intense and passionate," dark, have depth and yata yata. Every sign has all of those, just expressed differently, some more or less than others. People need to stop comparing everything to one, they're is SO much more to astrology than that.
Seriously. It's like only scorpios and Pluto placements are allowed to be intense and deep and emotional and sexy and like the sexiest sexies of the sexyverse. I've met just as many intense people with very little Pluto/Scorpio in their charts as people with tons. Maybe most of scorpios power comes from everyone thinking they know what they're all about Also. Isn't everyone intense and super involved when they've found THE relationship? IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 4222 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 15, 2014 06:46 PM
quote: Originally posted by bansheequeen: Seriously. It's like only scorpios and Pluto placements are allowed to be intense and deep and emotional and sexy and like the sexiest sexies of the sexyverse. I've met just as many intense people with very little Pluto/Scorpio in their charts as people with tons.Maybe most of scorpios power comes from everyone thinking they know what they're all about Also. Isn't everyone intense and super involved when they've found THE relationship?
Exactly!! LOL and from all of the Scorpios I've met and known none of them were anything like the way they're praised here to be. Very wallflowerish. Too quiet and too to themselves. I just don't get the obsession with them here, it's like every other thread is about scorpio this or scorpio that, am I intense enough, blahblahblah. Why do we all need so much validation from strangers, why can't we be who were are and go with that, learn from it lol. *shrugs shoulders* Your post always crack me up. Always real and to the point. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 380 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 06:49 PM
quote: Originally posted by Supreme cT: I have an aqua moon my moon square pluto takes away the detachment pretty much it makes it like a switch either im very intense or into something or im not even interested im not a balanced person at all i used to wish i could live a balanced life but with all the scorp/pluto in my chart i would feel empty casually dipping into things i like to dive head first and disect every little bit or aspect of whatever im interested in i feel like air placements get weighed down from the heaviness of scorpio/pluto placements this is just my opinion since im 30% water 28% air in my chart i dont feel anything lightly. Scorpio is deff stronger for me.
Aqua is fixed air. So they can get very obsessive. All the fixed signs get pretty fixated. My moms a Taurus with Aqua moon and there is literally no changing her kind about anything ever. Also it seems like fixed signs are very attracted to other fixed signs. I don't really see it in mutable or cardinal sun people. Of course more often I've seen it crash and burn lol too much stubbornness someone has to yield, but the attraction is always there. Like with Aquarius and Scorpio. I can't guarantee it'll be a smooth relationship but something brings these two together. I admire fixed qualities but I know too many fixed people in a room will cause us all to suffocate. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 5341 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted July 15, 2014 06:59 PM
Pluto aspects to personal planets are similar to Scorpio but not quite. It manifests differently. For example, I have Neptune aspecting my Ascendant and Sun (conjunct and opposite) and I have the more "pure" effects of the ruler rather than a natural Pisces.Neptune = mystic, intuition, psychic power, astral power, illusion, mirrors, mystery, projecting, glamour, ethereal Pisces = impractical, easily swayed, bad positioning, melancholy, connected to people on a interpersonal level rather than personal, vulnerable, hidden, deceitful. Pluto = primal passion, lust, fervor, strong vitality, controlling, possessive, obsessive, dominating, intense, intuitive, dark, masculine Scorpio = passionate, mysterious, controlling, primal feminine, unknown feminine power, sacral chakra, vitality IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 4222 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 15, 2014 07:04 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: Pluto aspects to personal planets are similar to Scorpio but not quite. It manifests differently. For example, I have Neptune aspecting my Ascendant and Sun (conjunct and opposite) and I have the more "pure" effects of the ruler rather than a natural Pisces.
I don't agree. I don't care what anyone says. You can't have the more "pure" effects of the ruler than the sign, especially with an opposite and conjunct(they both are fighting each other). Neptune rules Pisces. That's like saying Italy didn't create pizza, when that's where it originated. house, sign and aspects do matter. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 380 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 07:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: Exactly!! LOL and from all of Scorpios I've met and known none of them were anything like the way they're praised here to be. Very wallflowerish. Too quiet and too to themselves. I just don't get the obsession with them here, it's like every other thread is about scorpio this or scorpio that, am I intense enough, blahblahblah. Why do we all need so much validation from strangers, why can't we be who were are and go with that, learn from it lol. *shrugs shoulders* Your post always crack me up. Always real and to the point.
Yeah. I love scorpios but not for the reasons astrology describes lol. I like them because the ones I know in real life are calm and stable and they are devoted to their friends. Some people find quiet people sexy, others find more dynamic people sexy. But it's like people say scorpios at all these different things. I'm tired of hearing about Scorpio aspects and how it's like the only thing that makes a person intense. Maybe people are just intense inside and no one shows it, or maybe the people that are willing to research astrology tend to have more intense personalities because we go to this length to try and figure people out. Most people I think just become intense with a few select people in their lives. Some people are intense with a lot more people. IP: Logged |
Gemini Blues Knowflake Posts: 160 From: The future... or the past. I get them confused... Registered: May 2014
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posted July 15, 2014 07:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: Exactly!! LOL and from all of the Scorpios I've met and known none of them were anything like the way they're praised here to be. Very wallflowerish. Too quiet and too to themselves. I just don't get the obsession with them here, it's like every other thread is about scorpio this or scorpio that, am I intense enough, blahblahblah. Why do we all need so much validation from strangers, why can't we be who were are and go with that, learn from it lol. *shrugs shoulders* Your post always crack me up. Always real and to the point.
According to my daughter (a first deacon Scorpio herself) November Scorpio men are more the "wallflower" type you mention. The October flavor of ladies I've met tend to make me agree. Maybe the deacon matters? As for sexy sexiness... Bah... Give me a cuddly Cancer or classy Capricorn... with a dash of Leo or Sag for some steam or lava... But to each their own... IP: Logged |
starrynight Knowflake Posts: 102 From: Registered: Feb 2014
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posted July 15, 2014 07:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: Nah I think it's because everyone wants to be "intense and passionate," dark, have depth and yata yata. Every sign has all of those, just expressed differently, some more or less than others. People need to stop comparing everything to one, they're is SO much more to astrology than that.
I have a thing for the Fire signs anyway. Of course, we Scorpios are, like, abyss deep, but I personally like a bit more movement and fireworks. quote: Originally posted by DeepFreeze: No offense to Scorpios out there. My nephew is Scorpio and I think he's awesome. But I dated a Scorpio and it was without doubt the most boring relationship I've ever had. Really dull.
I believe in the power of other placements. I'll never forget a Cancer guy who I thought would be really boring... nope not boring at all. Sagittarius Moon, Leo Venus, Leo Mars. Rode his Yamaha bike like a king.
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Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 4222 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 15, 2014 07:13 PM
quote: Originally posted by bansheequeen: Yeah. I love scorpios but not for the reasons astrology describes lol. I like them because the ones I know in real life are calm and stable and they are devoted to their friends. Some people find quiet people sexy, others find more dynamic people sexy. But it's like people say scorpios at all these different things.I'm tired of hearing about Scorpio aspects and how it's like the only thing that makes a person intense. Maybe people are just intense inside and no one shows it, or maybe the people that are willing to research astrology tend to have more intense personalities because we go to this length to try and figure people out. Most people I think just become intense with a few select people in their lives. Some people are intense with a lot more people.
I agree! I don't mind the quietness it's just weird when it's a friend or someone that you're used to being around LOL, it's like dude what in the actual hell are you doing. I'm tired of hearing it too. It's annoying. Astrology isn't ruled around the "intensity" of scorpio and those that want to be one so bad. I think we're all intense in our own ways, some can control it and some can't. But it's not all one sided. Another excellent point as usual. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 5341 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted July 15, 2014 07:14 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: [QUOTE]Originally posted by KarkaQueen: [b]Pluto aspects to personal planets are similar to Scorpio but not quite. It manifests differently. For example, I have Neptune aspecting my Ascendant and Sun (conjunct and opposite) and I have the more "pure" effects of the ruler rather than a natural Pisces.
I don't agree. I don't care what anyone says. You can't have the more "pure" effects of the ruler than the sign, especially with an opposite and conjunct(they both are fighting each other). Neptune rules Pisces. That's like saying Italy didn't create pizza, when that's where it originated. house, sign and aspects do matter. [/B][/QUOTE] So you're saying someone with Moon conjunct ASC is less Lunarian than someone Cancer Moon? IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 4222 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 15, 2014 07:15 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: So you're saying someone with Moon conjunct ASC is less Lunarian than someone Cancer Moon?
Absolutely. Especially if the Cancer moon isn't heavily afflicted. They're similar, but not the same. Just like having a Taurus moon doesn't make a person a Taurus, you're just that way emotionally, it's not your core. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 4222 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 15, 2014 07:21 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gemini Blues: According to my daughter (a first deacon Scorpio herself) November Scorpio men are more the "wallflower" type you mention. The October flavor of ladies I've met tend to make me agree. Maybe the deacon matters?As for sexy sexiness... Bah... Give me a cuddly Cancer or classy Capricorn... with a dash of Leo or Sag for some steam or lava... But to each their own...
That's the thing though sometimes I think the decans matter and sometimes I don't. It's hard to tell, especially in certain signs. I've meet all types of people some with the same birthdays and were complete opposites. It's the whole chart that matters though. IP: Logged |
KarkaQueen Knowflake Posts: 5341 From: In my 1st house Uranus and Neptune Registered: May 2011
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posted July 15, 2014 07:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: Absolutely. Especially if the Cancer moon isn't heavily afflicted. They're similar, but not the same. Just like having a Taurus moon doesn't make a person a Taurus, you're just that way emotionally, it's not your core.
I would say the Moon is our unconscious patterns of development and our basic emotions and needs, the Nadir is the angle ruled by the Moon which represents our home (whether physical or spiritual) and our current incarnation. I find the Moon to be the soul/psyche and the more personal point, and the Sun is our spirit and more interpersonal. IP: Logged |
bansheequeen Knowflake Posts: 380 From: Beachville, USA Registered: Jan 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 07:29 PM
quote: Originally posted by Barbiegirl19: That's the thing though sometimes I think the decans matter and sometimes I don't. It's hard to tell, especially in certain signs. I've meet all types of people some with the same birthdays and were complete opposites. It's the whole chart that matters though.
Yeah. The same birthday thing is what makes me believe houses and angles have a huuuge part in a chart. I knew someone with my exact birthday, same year. And a couple people born within a few days of me on the same year but we all were very different. I never knew any of their birth times but I bet they all had different rising signs. Though this was creepily accurate for me. But also not accurate for others. I think because my birthday in numerology is ruled by the moon and I coincidentally have cancer moon. http://www.thesecretlanguage.com/check/birthdate/ It's a fun site to pass the time and take astro/birthday stalking of people to the next level. IP: Logged |
I'm so cappy Knowflake Posts: 8000 From: Saturn (summer house on Chiron) Registered: Nov 2012
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posted July 15, 2014 07:33 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: I would say the Moon is our unconscious patterns of development and our basic emotions and needs, the Nadir is the angle ruled by the Moon which represents our home (whether physical or spiritual) and our current incarnation. I find the Moon to be the soul/psyche and the more personal point, and the Sun is our spirit and more interpersonal.
Isn't a soul a spirit? ------------------ I'm sooo happy! I mean, cappy. IP: Logged |
Barbiegirl19 Knowflake Posts: 4222 From: Pluto with DeepFreeze Registered: Jul 2013
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posted July 15, 2014 07:36 PM
quote: Originally posted by KarkaQueen: I would say the Moon is our unconscious patterns of development and our basic emotions and needs, the Nadir is the angle ruled by the Moon which represents our home (whether physical or spiritual) and our current incarnation. I find the Moon to be the soul/psyche and the more personal point, and the Sun is our spirit and more interpersonal.
But you'd have no light without the sun. It makes a chart more easy going or it makes the chart more difficult, it's important. The sun is the core in my opinion, brain right after, it sends the triggers to get everything going, without it you'd be a lifeless pile of nothing, without it's "engine", like a car you couldn't drive without it. Your heart aids the brain but without the brain the heart would be useless. You're psyche is your brain, your soul is your emotions, you're moon, but it's not the core. You always use your brain first. Could you imagine if it were the heart first...LOL. It's always the brain and then you're heart. IP: Logged |